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failed steroid test, few questions

Myron

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I failed a AS test with my employer. I was given what I thought to be my usual 5 panel drug test but they tested my T:E Ratios as well. I had 35:1 TE Ratios. I was just wrapping up an EQ/Test Cyp cycle, 500/200 respectively for 12 weeks. Upon further Gas chromatography–mass spectrometry testing, Boldenone metabolites were discovered.

After a 2 week suspension, I signed paperwork last week agreeing to mandatory tests for the next 2 years. I have my first test tomorrow. They will test my T/E ratios again and if I piss over a 6:1 ratio, I will have to pay for a Gas chromatography–mass spectrometry test. Problem is, a Gas chromatography–mass spectrometry test will still show Boldenone metabolites which would result in a positive.



My questions are:

1. If my last Test Cyp dose was April 11th, and my last EQ does was April 4th. Will I fail the T:E ratio test?
2. I was prescribed Clomid by my doctor, would this mess with my T:E Ratio


I appreciate any and all help guys.

thank you!

F
 
Myron said:
I failed a AS test with my employer. I was given what I thought to be my usual 5 panel drug test but they tested my T:E Ratios as well. I had 35:1 TE Ratios. I was just wrapping up an EQ/Test Cyp cycle, 500/200 respectively for 12 weeks. Upon further Gas chromatography–mass spectrometry testing, Boldenone metabolites were discovered.

After a 2 week suspension, I signed paperwork last week agreeing to mandatory tests for the next 2 years. I have my first test tomorrow. They will test my T/E ratios again and if I piss over a 6:1 ratio, I will have to pay for a Gas chromatography–mass spectrometry test. Problem is, a Gas chromatography–mass spectrometry test will still show Boldenone metabolites which would result in a positive.



My questions are:

1. If my last Test Cyp dose was April 11th, and my last EQ does was April 4th. Will I fail the T:E ratio test?
2. I was prescribed Clomid by my doctor, would this mess with my T:E Ratio


I appreciate any and all help guys.

thank you!

F
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That's tough mate, not fun having to take those tests every time.

It's been 2 months since your last dose of boldenone, normally you should allow 3 months before testing to show a negative but since it is close you may pass.

Clomid will mess with your te ratios since it is a serm and that will raise your test levels a bit. I would just show your tester the prescription for the clomid by your doctor and you should be in the clear for that.

Good luck mate
 
You are probably fine on the boldedone as the mass spec should show a decrease, as long as you haven't used anymore. That really sucks. I would hate to have to deal with that. Good luck
 
JoePaul39 said:
Yes, I would be interested in this as well. Never heard of an employer test for steroids unless it is a sports profession.
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It's rare, but some jobs do. A guy made a post about his upcoming test not long ago, and almost everyone kept telling him, "no, they won't test for steroids".
He finally just had to shut them down, and tell them that he knew for a fact that they were going to (it's their standard procedure).
He was just looking for some advice on some particulars.

....I wish I could remember who it was...
 
Renew1 said:
It's rare, but some jobs do. A guy made a post about his upcoming test not long ago, and almost everyone kept telling him, "no, they won't test for steroids".
He finally just had to shut them down, and tell them that he knew for a fact that they were going to (it's their standard procedure).
He was just looking for some advice on some particulars.

....I wish I could remember who it was...
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I don't know the answer to your particular question (although I've used Bold several times). But I know it hangs around quite a while. ..but like someone said above...they know that. They should be looking for reductions of values. (They do that with non-steroid drug tests.)
 
Myron said:
I wish I could say something cool like firefighter or military but I have a regular 9-5 office Job. They more than likely noticed the obvious increase in size and got suspicious.
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Ouch.
Thinking back....I should have definitely been tested years ago.

...but not all companies want to know. For some it's just an insurance requirement.
 
Well Hopefully I don't even get to the point of having the Mass Spec because I'm hoping that the T:E is within range by now. The metabolites are the only thing that stay for months from what I understand, but do Metabolites affect your T:E.

So I guess the real deciding Factor is, Is T:E Ratio still affected when you are currently on cycle, and not after the half life is depleted from your system.
 
Myron said:
I wish I could say something cool like firefighter or military but I have a regular 9-5 office Job. They more than likely noticed the obvious increase in size and got suspicious.
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That sucks. So you think they normally don’t test for it, but singled you out because they were suspicious? Do you think you might be terminated if you fail your upcoming test? It is so stupid because steroids don’t interfere with someone’s mind to interfere with their performance to do a desk job (unlike other illegal drugs).
 
Myron said:
Well Hopefully I don't even get to the point of having the Mass Spec because I'm hoping that the T:E is within range by now. The metabolites are the only thing that stay for months from what I understand, but do Metabolites affect your T:E.

So I guess the real deciding Factor is, Is T:E Ratio still affected when you are currently on cycle, and not after the half life is depleted from your system.
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Come on, be honest with us. You raged at your desk and stapled a stack of papers the thickness of a telephone book... several times. Successfully.

Seriously, good luck. That's so strange for me to see, anyone being tested that isn't in sports, or some kind of job related to, as you stated, civil services. And back to a lighter side of things. If you pass, tell them you'll try to be less more awesome than everyone around you.
 
Myron said:
I failed a AS test with my employer. I was given what I thought to be my usual 5 panel drug test but they tested my T:E Ratios as well. I had 35:1 TE Ratios. I was just wrapping up an EQ/Test Cyp cycle, 500/200 respectively for 12 weeks. Upon further Gas chromatography–mass spectrometry testing, Boldenone metabolites were discovered.

After a 2 week suspension, I signed paperwork last week agreeing to mandatory tests for the next 2 years. I have my first test tomorrow. They will test my T/E ratios again and if I piss over a 6:1 ratio, I will have to pay for a Gas chromatography–mass spectrometry test. Problem is, a Gas chromatography–mass spectrometry test will still show Boldenone metabolites which would result in a positive.



My questions are:

1. If my last Test Cyp dose was April 11th, and my last EQ does was April 4th. Will I fail the T:E ratio test?
2. I was prescribed Clomid by my doctor, would this mess with my T:E Ratio


I appreciate any and all help guys.

thank you!

F
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Testosterone to epitestosterone or testosterone to estradiol?

And it takes 70 days to clear 97.5% of a single boldenone undecylenate dose. Your boss and drug testing agency is not aware of pharmacology at all. They are giving you an unpassable test; sue them. This is 100% unpassable.
 
2kvette said:
Testosterone to epitestosterone or testosterone to estradiol?

And it takes 70 days to clear 97.5% of a single boldenone undecylenate dose. Your boss and drug testing agency is not aware of pharmacology at all. They are giving you an unpassable test; sue them. This is 100% unpassable.
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Test to epitest

Cant post links but if you delete the space before the dot org, This study is making me feel slightly better, We'll see

clinchemDOTaaccjnlsDOTorg/content/43/5/731
 
Damn that sucks. Good luck bro.
 
Pretty sad commentary in the USA that companies are testing hormone levels of employees. None of their dam business
 
2kvette said:
And it takes 70 days to clear 97.5% of a single boldenone undecylenate dose. Your boss and drug testing agency is not aware of pharmacology at all. They are giving you an unpassable test; sue them. This is 100% unpassable.
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Would this equate to 70 days from my last dose?

I understand metabolites will be detectable for 5 months but They only test for metabolites if I fail the T:E

If it’s gone 70 days after my last dose my t:e should be below 6:1
 
Myron said:
I wish I could say something cool like firefighter or military but I have a regular 9-5 office Job. They more than likely noticed the obvious increase in size and got suspicious.
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That is really odd that they would test for steroids. As far as I know, testing for steroids is more expensive than a standard drug test. I don't see why they would care if one is on gear or not for an office job.

i asked because I am a teacher and teaching summer school currently. It is a catholic school, so we wear a shirt and tie everyday. My shirts are fitted, but I always where long sleeve dress shirts. Anyways, I am wearing jeans and a t-shirt for summer school. Students and faculty can tell I lift when I wear my normal work clothes, but with the t-shirt, I've had students ask me about my veins, muscles, etc. My assistant principal was even looking me up and down. This got me thinking they would retroactively ask for a drug test.
 
Myron said:
I wish I could say something cool like firefighter or military but I have a regular 9-5 office Job. They more than likely noticed the obvious increase in size and got suspicious.
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That's crazy bro. I thought for sure you were going to say law enforcement or military
 
Steroid panel is $306.78 so someone has a broom up their butt at your place of work since they'll toss that money out there twice. I'm wondering how often they do this or are they singling you out because you're muscular?
 
In my experience a lot of the companies claim 5 panel test but they will actually collect a sample and do nothing or just test for marijuana. They don't want to pay for any unnecessary testing... that's wasting their bottom line. The fact that acne employer would test for aas and then proceed with gas chromatography blows my mind.

I'm guessing OP got jacked and banged a vp's wife .. but for real brother best of luck. That's really a sh**** situation you have found yourself in. Someone has to be gunning for you.
 
user567 said:
Pretty sad commentary in the USA that companies are testing hormone levels of employees. None of their dam business
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yeah seriously like how rediculuous.. like as if these hormones are gonna affect you n the job like an alcoholic or narcotics.. just really think about it.. hey sir you have a test level of 1,400, we’re looking for someone around 800 lmao.. unbelievable
 
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