NPP and insomnia...

spirall08

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Currently halfway through a Sust/DMZ cycle.

Took my first shot of NPP 2 days ago and have had horrible insomnia ever since. Needed 2 benadryl to get me to sleep at 5am. Honestly, I've had mild insomnia this entire cycle for some reason, but the last 2 nights were extra. Anyone else experience this? Would prefer not to have to eat benadryl every night if I don't have to.

Also, I'm very gyno prone. Have been using nolva this entire cycle. Now that I've started NPP, when should I start Caber? .25mg 2x/week, correct?

Thanks!
 
Somebody else here actually just made a thread recently about getting insomnia from npp as well. Caber .25mg twice a week.
 
I've been on 550mg/week of NPP with 450mg/test prop for a month now and have had insomnia since day 1. Here's my thread about it:

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It's identical to tren insomnia for me. I'm also taking .25mg caber 3x per week. Isn't helping with insomnia. Neither is mary jane. I'm able to fall asleep fine with some MJ or sleep aids but I wake up everyday at 4am and am up every half hour after this (if I fall back asleep).
 
Outofbody said:
I've been on 550mg/week of NPP with 450mg/test prop for a month now and have had insomnia since day 1. Here's my thread about it:

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It's identical to tren insomnia for me. I'm also taking .25mg caber 3x per week. Isn't helping with insomnia. Neither is mary jane. I'm able to fall asleep fine with some MJ or sleep aids but I wake up everyday at 4am and am up every half hour after this (if I fall back asleep).
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Yea it's my first time taking it as well except my problem is I can't fall asleep until 4am every night. Was hoping after being on it for a little while that would pass, but judging from your experience I guess not.
 
spirall08 said:
Yea it's my first time taking it as well except my problem is I can't fall asleep until 4am every night. Was hoping after being on it for a little while that would pass, but judging from your experience I guess not.
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I’m about to order some DSIP (delta sleep inducing peptide) to see if it will help. If I do, I’ll start up a log. It looks like great stuff
 
Outofbody said:
I’m about to order some DSIP (delta sleep inducing peptide) to see if it will help. If I do, I’ll start up a log. It looks like great stuff
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Dude you gettin any other sides from the NPP? Since I started my appetite has absolutely tanked (which is counter productive to trying to bulk). I was eating fine when I was just on Sust. Once I added NPP, I can't eat.
 
spirall08 said:
Dude you gettin any other sides from the NPP? Since I started my appetite has absolutely tanked (which is counter productive to trying to bulk). I was eating fine when I was just on Sust. Once I added NPP, I can't eat.
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Yeah that's kinda happened to me too. I thought maybe it was from other things I've been taking (forskolin and some EC here and there) but maybe it's from the NPP. I've been forcing myself to eat.
 
Damn guys this sounds horribble. I really like NPP, genuinely bummed yous are not having mint runs.
 
Nac said:
Damn guys this sounds horribble. I really like NPP, genuinely bummed yous are not having mint runs.
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I won’t lie, I’m switching back to twice a year tren runs after this!! Tren doesn’t seem to have as many negative sides for me as it does for most others. And the opposite seems true of NPP!
 
I had bad sides on deca as well, so it’s not totally surprising tbh. I just don’t get why most people don’t, and then I don’t really get ANY bad sides on tren. So confused
 
Lol yeah that does seem a bit backwards. Whats your carb intake like atm out of interest? Cant recall you mentioning.
 
Nac said:
Lol yeah that does seem a bit backwards. Whats your carb intake like atm out of interest? Cant recall you mentioning.
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I was doing a TKD but now I’m kinda carb backloading too because I’m not getting enough cals in. I go in on carbs post workout now and still keep my peri-workout carbs in place.
 
Ah yeah thats right. Do you think the carbs could be contributing to the sides/insomnia? I know fueled tended to recommend "lowish" carbs for this very reason (and not just tren, either). I realise the conundrum is trying to also keep kcals up.
 
Nah doubtful because I just started that this week and I’ve had the insomnia since the start. I also recently started T3 but likewise, the insomnia started before.
 
spirall08 said:
Currently halfway through a Sust/DMZ cycle.

Took my first shot of NPP 2 days ago and have had horrible insomnia ever since. Needed 2 benadryl to get me to sleep at 5am. Honestly, I've had mild insomnia this entire cycle for some reason, but the last 2 nights were extra. Anyone else experience this? Would prefer not to have to eat benadryl every night if I don't have to.

Also, I'm very gyno prone. Have been using nolva this entire cycle. Now that I've started NPP, when should I start Caber? .25mg 2x/week, correct?

Thanks!
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I get a little wired when ever I first get fully on a cycle.
 
Cgkone said:
I get a little wired when ever I first get fully on a cycle.
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Me too, always, but this is so different. No anxiety, no wired energy. It’s really weird.

Last night I took 2 grams of phenibut, 500mg l-theanine, some 5-htp, melatonin and a gram of gaba and smoked MJ. Got me to sleep from 11 till 2:30, then I had to smoke more MJ.

I’m about 5 weeks in on my NPP cycle.
 
Outofbody said:
Me too, always, but this is so different. No anxiety, no wired energy. It’s really weird.

Last night I took 2 grams of phenibut, 500mg l-theanine, some 5-htp, melatonin and a gram of gaba and smoked MJ. Got me to sleep from 11 till 2:30, then I had to smoke more MJ.

I’m about 5 weeks in on my NPP cycle.
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Wow that is strange . I hate not sleeping
 
Bro, npp is the worst for me insomnia wise. I am on 400mg of tren and 150mg of test right now and sleep like a baby. But I have a supplementation regiment to help me sleep.
 
Look into doxylamine succinate it’s easy to pick up at any pharmacy or Walmart. And works 10x better than benedryl for sleep. I will use it for a couple days and do phenibut for a night and switch back. Between those two I sleep awesome. I used to just use weed to sleep. But these two blow weed out of the water sleep wise.
 
I’ve read that anti-histamines can mess up your sleep cycles. I have a stockpile of hydroxyzine, a prescription anti-histamine that will knock out a rhino, but it’s one of the side effects (low quality sleep due to it affecting sleep cycles), so I don’t use it for sleep.
 
Outofbody said:
I’ve read that anti-histamines can mess up your sleep cycles. I have a stockpile of hydroxyzine, a prescription anti-histamine that will knock out a rhino, but it’s one of the side effects (low quality sleep due to it affecting sleep cycles), so I don’t use it for sleep.
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I’ve got hydroxyzine too. I got awful insomnia when I quit using it. Not worth it lol
 
Yeah, you can't really go cold turkey. I typically use doxylamine the day after I use phenibut and I will run it with benedryl if need be. And low quality sleep is not how i would describe my sleep I sleep like a baby and feel great. I do however smoke mary along side these every night. Which puts me into a non disrupted sleep. Every one is different though. I can't take things like ambien or lunesta...None of those work for me.
 
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