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Dmz cycle.

Bk1993

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Hey guys, new to the ph. Never really used it before. I ran a cycle about 6 months ago and had excellent results. But towards the end I had yellowish tint to my eyes. I want aware I had to run a on cycle support. Now I am trying another cycle. I bought a liver support from my local shop. Its just the basic liver support with milk thistle also. The dmz I am running is not from black labs. It is hardcore extreme DNA with 17 beta 2 alpha 17 beta dimethyl 5 alpha androstan 3 on azine, milk thistle, n acetyl l cysteine, long jack. I don't want to do injections because I'm not into the dart. I'm just asking if it is safe to run for a cycle. I've been getting anxiety. Any help would be great. Also after my last cycle was up almost immediately after I had my appendix out.
 
Yellow eyes is a bad sign, if you weren't imagining things you may just want to stay away from orals. I wouldn't trust liver supports to protect you. DMZ is a pretty damn strong steroid and fairly toxic, what did you use on your first cycle, at what dose, and for how long?
 
That's the thing. I didn't run anything my first time. I was told it was good like bnb it was. Stupid on my end. Now I am trying to do it from what I've been told. It says the caps are 16 mg each I was taking 2 a day
 
So you took 32mg of DMZ a day for your first cycle? If you seriously saw your eyes turning yellow that means your liver was in big trouble, in which case no oral steroids should be used again, ever, liver protection or not. Some people have horrible reactions to oral steroids, their livers will not tolerate it, and they end up in the hospital with cholestasis.
 
I saw a yellow tint towards the end. I wasnt drinking water well enough of. I wasnt on any on cycle. I believe that all played a part.
 
Don't take that stuff again. No more DMZ. Don't take any more steroid pills, you're done. Extra water and liver protection isn't going to do it. I know you got incredible results, and it's going to be very difficult to resist taking more, but if you take more it's highly likely you end up in the hospital, and it will be painful. Google cholestasis. Yellowing of the eyes is not a normal reaction to oral steroids, this is very serious.
 
Bk1993 said:
Hey guys, new to the ph. Never really used it before. I ran a cycle about 6 months ago and had excellent results. But towards the end I had yellowish tint to my eyes. I want aware I had to run a on cycle support. Now I am trying another cycle. I bought a liver support from my local shop. Its just the basic liver support with milk thistle also. The dmz I am running is not from black labs. It is hardcore extreme DNA with 17 beta 2 alpha 17 beta dimethyl 5 alpha androstan 3 on azine, milk thistle, n acetyl l cysteine, long jack. I don't want to do injections because I'm not into the dart. I'm just asking if it is safe to run for a cycle. I've been getting anxiety. Any help would be great. Also after my last cycle was up almost immediately after I had my appendix out.
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with DMZ you need TUDCA (CEL is probably the cheapest around). I would also have a better all-around cycle support like CEL Cyle assist or SNS Liver Assist XT
 
booneman77 said:
with DMZ you need TUDCA (CEL is probably the cheapest around). I would also have a better all-around cycle support like CEL Cyle assist or SNS Liver Assist XT
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If you took DMZ and it made your eyes yellow, you would try it again? You trust these liver protection products that much?
 
It didn't turn my eyes like a liver failure. I had a slight tint in them. It looked off white. Like I said I didn't even use a liver guard last time, had no issues till the end.
 
Bk1993 said:
Im lost man. Cell cycle support is the same as cel?
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CEL is the brand. CEL cycle assist is the product. Plus TUDCA and ****loads of water if you are going to even consider another DMZ cycle.
 
I trust nac and tuduca but... I have been on orals in the past dmz included at a higher dose for 6 weeks and had no issues, anadrol for 5 weeks no issues. And I have had bloodwork show only slightly elevated. If 32mg of dmz was making you look jaundice then you got some kind of issue that would tell me not to take orals. Just my 2cents
 
Why would you start another cycle? And just for shyts and giggles what was your last pct, and what do you have planned for this cycle pct. Cus i got a strong feeling it's some over the counter crap
 
So I believe that I was having tiny yellow in my eyes because I didn't take any cycle assist. Taking a cycle assist would eliminate that no? Like I said it was right at the end of it. I wasnt drinking a lot of water either.
 
Bk1993 said:
It didn't turn my eyes like a liver failure. I had a slight tint in them. It looked off white. Like I said I didn't even use a liver guard last time, had no issues till the end.
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I really hope you were imagining the yellow tint because I have a feeling you're going to take this stuff again. Yellowing of the eyes is not a normal something that happens to people when they take oral steroids, liver protection or not, it's an adverse reaction.
 
Bk1993 said:
It didn't turn my eyes like a liver failure. I had a slight tint in them. It looked off white. Like I said I didn't even use a liver guard last time, had no issues till the end.
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Did you get bloodwork to ensure that your liver function was OK / back to normal before you started again?
Androflaven is 100% correct that eye tint is insanely far along the scale of "liver issue"... that doesn't happen until you're like borderline liver failure, not just "a little off".

If you haven't you 100% need to get bloodwork immediately to prove you're not literally dying.
 
Bk1993 said:
Yeah man so my last pct was pct assault
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jesus... that is not a real pct and hella not enough for dmz.

Go get bloodwork.

Stop anyhting you're currently running.
 
Okay. I just took a cap about a hour ago with a liver support. I'll make a doctor appointment. Should I take anything to stop? Today is day 5
 
Bk1993 said:
Okay. I just took a cap about a hour ago with a liver support. I'll make a doctor appointment. Should I take anything to stop? Today is day 5
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no, just stop. at this point the only thing I would continue to take would be cycle supports / liver care products and a shiitton of water.
 
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