Best natural anabolic around?

[Davy25]

Anything natty isnt worth your time i feel *with exception of ARA*. Im currently on x gels and follidrone 2.0 and feel good.... but $50 bucks for 3-4 weeks of follidrone and $40 bucks for x gels? Thats essentially 200 bucks for 8 weeks with minimal results. Its nice to be “on” something imbetween cycles but imo definetly not worth the cash.

 

[Sam stack]

Would phosphatic acid be considered for this category? It’s the best non hormonal chemical on the market in my opinion

 

[booneman77]

Interested in CEL Epi-plex. What results did you see from it?

I'm one of the rare few that doesn't respond to epicathechin at all ha. I've tried 5 diff products and not a shred of anyhting from them for me. 90% of people see endurance, leaning, and/or strength benefits though. I'm just part of the unfortunate 10%

 

[Brenwad]

The only thing that has any value is ZMA. I dose throughout the day, 1200mgs magnesium,and 110 zinc throughout day. It works.

 

[brofessorx]

Damn! 3 pages (on my iPhone) for a question in the aas section about natty supplements!!!! :wtf:
I asked about the best androsterone (pro-dht, stanodrol) products out and got I think 3 replies. :gay:

 

[RickyBlobby]

Ain't nobody care about your stinking hair loss hormones! And screw Dbol too! We want plants n sh!it. What yoou think this is, the anabolics section or something?

 

[booneman77]

Damn! 3 pages (on my iPhone) for a question in the aas section about natty supplements!!!! :wtf:
I asked about the best androsterone (pro-dht, stanodrol) products out and got I think 3 replies. :gay:

no reps for ph's haha

 

[brofessorx]

Ain't nobody care about your stinking hair loss hormones! And screw Dbol too! We want plants n sh!it. What yoou think this is, the anabolics section or something?

I don’t know what got into me! :spankme:

 

[JoePaul39]

I ran laxo 100 from hi tech, was really happy with it, i'd give that a go

Seems like the majority of replies are for Laxogenin and SNS X gels. I just purchased the X gels and Laxo 100 by High Tech today and am going to run both for an 8 week cut and then go into a sarm cycle. The other popular reply was for the new supplement Vector. Gonna give that more time to be on the market to view more reviews before deciding if it is worth a try. Thanks everyone for your input!

 

[JoePaul39]

Would phosphatic acid be considered for this category? It’s the best non hormonal chemical on the market in my opinion

Yes.

 

[Davy25]

Surprised nobody has said creatine yet because honestly creatine and ARA are the only ones proven to do anything...

 

[mad_canada]

Surprised nobody has said creatine yet because honestly creatine and ARA are the only ones proven to do anything...

I trust people are talking about anabolics as in something to give you a muscle-building edge

Creatine is not an anabolic per se, but it helps you feel stronger which would get you to be more anabolic

I really do think people are looking for alternatives to drugs here, and in the opinion of some there is no alternative to drugs no natural alternative that is

 

[RickyBlobby]

Citrulline Malate and agmatine are amazing for pumps, recovery and increased workout intensity

Not anabolics but pretty natural and will definitely help with gains if you are natty

 

[justhere4comm]

The only thing that has any value is ZMA. I dose throughout the day, 1200mgs magnesium,and 110 zinc throughout day. It works.

This is not true. To say the only thing that has value being ZMA is discounting everything else and it's not a testosterone booster as it helps maintain elevated testosterone during periods of training. It works on your colon. lol.

 

[Davy25]

This is not true. To say the only thing that has value being ZMA is discounting everything else and it's not a testosterone booster as it helps maintain elevated testosterone during periods of training. It works on your colon. lol.

Yeah ZMA dont do jack

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Surprised nobody has said creatine yet because honestly creatine and ARA are the only ones proven to do anything...

There are actually many other natural ingredients/supplements that have been shown to have benefits in regards to lean body mass. Things like betaine and ashwagandha come to mind.

 

[Independent]

This is not true. To say the only thing that has value being ZMA is discounting everything else and it's not a testosterone booster as it helps maintain elevated testosterone during periods of training. It works on your colon. lol.

Definitely will give a colon cleanse if i take too much. It really helps me sleep though.

 

[Rockzilla]

Seems like the majority of replies are for Laxogenin and SNS X gels. I just purchased the X gels and Laxo 100 by High Tech today and am going to run both for an 8 week cut and then go into a sarm cycle. The other popular reply was for the new supplement Vector. Gonna give that more time to be on the market to view more reviews before deciding if it is worth a try. Thanks everyone for your input!

You’ve hit the nail on the head. ArA will give you sick pumps and DOMS, and laxogenin isn’t anti flammatory but still helps with recovery. Laxo should help keep your joints moist.

Idk how to link threads but I’d give the Arachidonic Acid help guide on here a gander. To sum it up you want to be taking a carnitine salt(LCLT is easy), and phosphaditic Acid(fearns soy lecithin granules)with your X gels.

 

[jameschoi]

You’ve hit the nail on the head. ArA will give you sick pumps and DOMS, and laxogenin isn’t anti flammatory but still helps with recovery. Laxo should help keep your joints moist.

Idk how to link threads but I’d give the Arachidonic Acid help guide on here a gander. To sum it up you want to be taking a carnitine salt(LCLT is easy), and phosphaditic Acid(fearns soy lecithin granules)with your X gels.

what does the soy leth do?

 

[Rockzilla]

what does the soy leth do?

is also suggested that Ara be taken with Glycerol Monosterate (GMS) to emulsify the Ara (breakdown fat globules into smaller, more uniform particles)

I know it says GMS, but soy lecithin does the same thing. But with 2tblspns of fearns you get 1200mgs PA, which is almost double the dose that was used in the study(750mgs?).

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/246394-arachidonic-acid-help.html

 

[JoePaul39]

You’ve hit the nail on the head. ArA will give you sick pumps and DOMS, and laxogenin isn’t anti flammatory but still helps with recovery. Laxo should help keep your joints moist.

Idk how to link threads but I’d give the Arachidonic Acid help guide on here a gander. To sum it up you want to be taking a carnitine salt(LCLT is easy), and phosphaditic Acid(fearns soy lecithin granules)with your X gels.

Got Fearns soy lecithin granules in hand. It is the cheap mans source for phosphaditic Acid supplementation, but it definetly gets the job done! I put it in my yogurt. Much less expensive than buying phosphaditic Acid via Muscletech’s pills.

 

[Rockzilla]

Got Fearns soy lecithin granules in hand. It is the cheap mans source for phosphaditic Acid supplementation, but it definetly gets the job done! I put it in my yogurt. Much less expensive than buying phosphaditic Acid via Muscletech’s pills.

Phospha Muscle is not worth it. It’s on vitaminshoppe for 70$ for 28 day supply. Giving you 750mgs actual PA. I applaud it for having the study doseage, but I would not use that **** over fearns. So what, you gotta sacrifrice 110 calories to use fearns to get more PA? And every other good thing that’s in it? PA will last you even longer if you use a Tablespoon and a half. 900mgs PA for 45 days.

 

[JoePaul39]

Phospha Muscle is not worth it. It’s on vitaminshoppe for 70$ for 28 day supply. Giving you 750mgs actual PA. I applaud it for having the study doseage, but I would not use that **** over fearns. So what, you gotta sacrifrice 110 calories to use fearns to get more PA? And every other good thing that’s in it? PA will last you even longer if you use a Tablespoon and a half. 900mgs PA for 45 days.

I agree Fearns is quite a deal! I learned about it on a Priceplow article on PA.

 

[jameschoi]

I agree Fearns is quite a deal! I learned about it on a Priceplow article on PA.

I found a place selling fearns for around 9 bucks a bottle.

 

[JoePaul39]

I found a place selling fearns for around 9 bucks a bottle.

I use Priceplow all the time and it helps me find good deals similar to the one you desribed above. Fearns is dirt cheap and tastes good too! (Guess that isn’t a violation of forum rules since I didn’t mention any of the specific vendors I buy from lol)

 

[GrizzleB]

The local health store sells a brand of soy lecithin for 5.99 a bag. I dose 15g a day and last me at least 2-3 weeks per bag. I've always felt its worth staying on considering price. I havent taken ara in years but I'd love to do a run to see how dosing with PA effects it...

 

[booneman77]

The local health store sells a brand of soy lecithin for 5.99 a bag. I dose 15g a day and last me at least 2-3 weeks per bag. I've always felt its worth staying on considering price. I havent taken ara in years but I'd love to do a run to see how dosing with PA effects it...

the granules should actually help with the emulsification of the ara when taken together... one fo the best pairings out there from a gains + recovery aspect

 

[JoePaul39]

My libido is sky high on Vector. Holy moly.

Vivid dreams like when I was in my 20’s. Crazy. Cool.

Hey bro! So I ordered Laxogenin 100 and Sns x gels for a planed 8 week cutting cycle due to the high volume of recommendations for these natty products on this thread. It set me back about $160. I must admit I am very tempted to also add in Vector as well based on all the numerous great reviews I have seen in a short time frame, but that would set me back another $100. Are there logs demonstrating Vector is good for cut cycles or should I save it for a bulk and run it alone so I can better gage its impact, rather than running it with the laxo and x gels simutaneously? What do you recommend based on prior user experience logs? Also, does it need to be cycled? Would returns be diminished if used continuously with no break due to receptors becoming desensitized?