Anyone have any experience with this prohormone?
It appears a handful of companies are selling it
It appears a handful of companies are selling it
Androst-5-ene-3a,17b-diolPost the nomenclature. Based off the name it looks like garbage though.
Androst-5-ene-3a,17b-diolPost the nomenclature. Based off the name it looks like garbage though.
Missing 2-ene to be delta-2 androstenolAndrost-5-ene-3a,17b-diol
3-AD
This nomenclature makes no sense either its dhea ( but can’t have a diol) or its 5-androstenediol (banned)Androst-5-ene-3a,17b-diol
There are almost virtually zero reviews in over a year, something isn’t right lol
Does the fact that they used a 3a vs the beta change it’s legality from Androstenediol?This nomenclature makes no sense either its dhea ( but can’t have a diol) or its 5-androstenediol (banned)
So I wouldn’t trust it.
PM sent, interested in thisI’d have to look it up to sure but both isomers I think are banned.
So I guess there’s a third option, that it contain epi andro
in the mid nineties, when this originally hit the market it was hyped, and then summarily dropped as it was giving people flare ups..It’s 5-Androstenediol. The 3-Alpha hydroxy. I’m fairly certain it will need to be doses high in order to be useful. The 3-Beta is actually a fully active estrogen with no androgenic activity. So you want the alpha only.
The reaction they do is a standard borohydride reduction. Which gives a mix of the alpha and the beta. The beta is 100% full agonist on par with 17b-estradiol of ERb. The beta has 0 activity at the androgen receptor. Idk if this really is only the alpha isomer or not. The alpha is the only one with any activity that’s worthwhile. The beta is a pure potent estrogen. It takes chromatography to separate the two. A very very expensive process they are unlikely to undertake. That’s why people used to get flare ups.in the mid nineties, when this originally hit the market it was hyped, and then summarily dropped as it was giving people flare ups..
maybe a TD would with this stuff..
This nomenclature makes no sense either its dhea ( but can’t have a diol) or its 5-androstenediol (banned)
So I wouldn’t trust it.
I was incorrect, the a isomer isn’t banned.I’d have to look it up to sure but both isomers I think are banned.
So I guess there’s a third option, that it contain epi andro
This nomenclature makes no sense either its dhea ( but can’t have a diol) or its 5-androstenediol (banned)
So I wouldn’t trust it.
I was incorrect, the a isomer isn’t banned.I’d have to look it up to sure but both isomers I think are banned.
So I guess there’s a third option, that it contain epi andro
This nomenclature makes no sense either its dhea ( but can’t have a diol) or its 5-androstenediol (banned)
So I wouldn’t trust it.
I was incorrect, the a isomer isn’t banned.I’d have to look it up to sure but both isomers I think are banned.
So I guess there’s a third option, that it contain epi andro
Yea it does, more specifically “salts, isomers, salts of isomers, esters, ethers, and derivatives ”But the paragraph leading into the steroids section says stereoisomers are banned if I recall correctly.
So it seems they banned all isomers. I mean, isomer is all encompassing. Could be epimers, conformers, structural, tautomers...Yea it does, more specifically “salts, isomers, salts of isomers, esters, ethers, and derivatives ”
you know the game.. until its on that list...So it seems they banned all isomers. I mean, isomer is all encompassing. Could be epimers, conformers, structural, tautomers...
Yep. Even with dhea you cant change the molecule at all either. As is has to be shown to be naturally occurring still. So you cant get a methylated 1 dhea or some sh!t. It has to be just 1 dhea, as it has shown to naturally occur.That list really pertains to us as users.
As far as sellers go, I believe how it is now, unless specifically excluded (like dhea) if it’s not found naturally in the diet it is illegal to sell.
Right, but my point was the worthless beta isomer is banned. It says isomers are banned. But, if its not on the list then its not banned, your right. But 1-AD, 4-AD, 6-oxo are naturally occurring and they're banned. See my point?That list really pertains to us as users.
As far as sellers go, I believe how it is now, unless specifically excluded (like dhea) if it’s not found naturally in the diet it is illegal to sell.
What you've written here makes no sense to me. Am I missing something?I have 0 info on this 3AD and I am considering buying this and running it as a first ph cycle. Its been around and almost no reviews. Its advertised as very mild.
Actually I dont remember typing this out. It says I typed it out at 2am? I mustve been half asleep. Actually I'm pretty sure.What you've written here makes no sense to me. Am I missing something?
I have zero information on this, and am considering running it as a first cycle.
It's been around, and no reviews.
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I know this, the androsterone I'm reffering to is in the Olympus UK product. It had 3AD AND Androsterone. Just, Androsterone. Dont know if that would be 1 Andro or what.It’s not 1-Andro, it’s the alpha isomer of Epiandro.
Also, 15mg a cap is nothing; there is another brand that sells it for the same price but with 25mg a cap
I ran enhanced formulations 3Alpha (dehydroandrosterol) at 75mg per day and had a great time. It’s like a mild and less harsh halodrol.I have 0 info on this 3AD and I am considering buying this and running it as a first ph cycle. Its been around and almost no reviews. Its advertised as very mild.
Can I message you about it? I'm curious to know more about it.I ran enhanced formulations 3Alpha (dehydroandrosterol) at 75mg per day and had a great time. It’s like a mild and less harsh halodrol.
Can I message you about it? I'm curious to know more about it.
This is apparently something different.It’s not 1-Andro, it’s the alpha isomer of Epiandro.
Also, 15mg a cap is nothing; there is another brand that sells it for the same price but with 25mg a cap
Yeah sorry for tge confusion, i shouldnt even have brought that up lolThis is apparently something different.
For any who missed this post. This is what it is.It’s 5-Androstenediol. The 3-Alpha hydroxy. I’m fairly certain it will need to be doses high in order to be useful. The 3-Beta is actually a fully active estrogen with no androgenic activity. So you want the alpha only.
That ones easy, 100mg each of the first three listed, and 55mg of the last one.I’m looking at this Ph with 3ad in it, can anyone guess at how much of what, is in here? I’m against prop blends, but curious
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This.. or get some alpha 20 just please don't run my dosagesJust get some damn msten from VL, this is getting overly complicated lol
The first ingredient, is coming up on google for me as just plain Dhea...Would they really put 100mg of that in there? Or is it more likely Epiandro or 1 andro, despite the label...? The product is by Armakon LabsThat ones easy, 100mg each of the first three listed, and 55mg of the last one.
Sodium nitrate anhydrous is bomb sh1t for pumps. Also don't take Cialis or viagra with that. They don't mix. Nitrates and all...
They would put that in there.The first ingredient, is coming up on google for me as just plain Dhea...Would they really put 100mg of that in there? Or is it more likely Epiandro or 1 andro, despite the label...? The product is by Armakon Labs
I’m looking at a few products, that include dhea at 50-100 mg...All seem like one company is putting em out for different smaller ones? I will cut and paste what I keep seeing on various sites as to why they support dhea...It seems like shady, ‘bro science’ ...I’m not a fan of plain dhea...They would put that in there.
Anabolics with prop blends are almost always a ruse to hide a bunch of DHEA or tiny doses of what would be good stuff if dosed properly.I’m looking at a few products, that include dhea at 50-100 mg...All seem like one company is putting em out for different smaller ones? I will cut and paste what I keep seeing on various sites as to why they support dhea...It seems like shady, ‘bro science’ ...I’m not a fan of plain dhea...
Yeah Rad83, I despise prop blends. They use them not to hide their miraculous secret ratio of ingredients, but to hide the fact that their ratios suck, and we wouldn't buy the products if they listed the mg per ingredients.Anabolics with prop blends are almost always a ruse to hide a bunch of DHEA or tiny doses of what would be good stuff if dosed properly.
Get some fun methylated stuff. The liver toxicity aspect is highly exaggerated. Just always strictly mentioned because if you take it too long it can become a real danger, so you use them responsibly, and don't take them for months on end. It's like ibuprofen. Drinking alcohol is much more toxic to the liver.
M1ad... It's not going to ruin your hairline or give you gyno or make you rage out. It will mess up your lipid profile and maybe make your blood pressure rise some. Likely not even going to be an issue. Chances are good a guy takes m1ad for an appropriate time with diet training etc all in place, notices no side effects, maybe a zit or two, could gain as much as 20lbs in 4-6 weeks, maybe more.
Using it as an oral kickstart to an injectable cycle, even better if it were the first one. I mean really you could get just fantastic results without much for sides/extra sides. Or doing the modern oral DS into SARM cycle, with m1ad as the DS and run SARMS with and after for a length of time. That would probably be pretty effective as well. M1ad is a really underrated compound. Criminally underrated, really. Mg for mg it's easily over ten times stronger than 1-ad.
I cannot find reviews for it, mind sharing your experience? Any sides?I ran enhanced formulations 3Alpha (dehydroandrosterol) at 75mg per day and had a great time. It’s like a mild and less harsh halodrol.
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