WHATS YOUR THOUGHTS

[D_FIT]

First Cycle
Male
Age-33
Weight-165
Lifting- 10yrs

Week 1 - 12: Test E, 500mg/week (250mg Mon. and 250mg Thurs.
Week 1 - 14: Adex .25 E3D
Week 1 - 14: HCG 500 IU/Week (250 Sun/Wed)
Week 13 - 14: off Test E
Week 15 - 16: Nolvadex 40mg/day
Week 17 - 18: Nolvadex 20mg/day



Any Suggestion?

 

[Geoffr]

Looks like a great cycle, but if it’s your first cycle have you thought about trying a lower dose (weekly) of Test?

Most importantly to see how your body responds to the test and controlling your E.

 

[Bintherduntht]

500mg is probably going to give you nice gains!

An AI would not be necessary IMO, just nolva on hand for gyno.

Can't comment on hcg, never take it.

Nolva is good for PCT

 

[D_FIT]

Looks like a great cycle, but if it’s your first cycle have you thought about trying a lower dose (weekly) of Test?

Most importantly to see how your body responds to the test and controlling your E.

Thank you
I have actually yes maybe 125 x2 a week mon/thur

 

[D_FIT]

500mg is probably going to give you nice gains!

An AI would not be necessary IMO, just nolva on hand for gyno.

Can't comment on hcg, never take it.

Nolva is good for PCT

From what I’m reading online HCG can spike estrogen levels. Just like the testosterone does.
This is why im using ai on cycle.
Do u not use ai on cycle?
Also reading nolva is NOT supposed to be used as an AI But to be used only as PCT..

Thank you for your response hope to hear back from you

 

[Bintherduntht]

From what I’m reading online HCG can spike estrogen levels. Just like the testosterone does.
This is why im using ai on cycle.
Do u not use ai on cycle?
Also reading nolva is NOT supposed to be used as an AI But to be used only as PCT..

Thank you for your response hope to hear back from you

In the 8 years I've been juicing (every compound) I've never needed an AI.

I've had pros agree with me.

But again, that's me. Everyone is different right?

I don't think HCG is needed for a simple Test cycle.

You are right. Nolvadex is a SERM, not an AI.

 

[Bintherduntht]

From what I’m reading online HCG can spike estrogen levels. Just like the testosterone does.
This is why im using ai on cycle.
Do u not use ai on cycle?
Also reading nolva is NOT supposed to be used as an AI But to be used only as PCT..

Thank you for your response hope to hear back from you

Also, nolvadex controls my estrogen just fine.

 

[Bintherduntht]

First Cycle
Male
Age-33
Weight-165
Lifting- 10yrs

Week 1 - 12: Test E, 500mg/week (250mg Mon. and 250mg Thurs.
Week 1 - 14: Adex .25 E3D
Week 1 - 14: HCG 500 IU/Week (250 Sun/Wed)
Week 13 - 14: off Test E
Week 15 - 16: Nolvadex 40mg/day
Week 17 - 18: Nolvadex 20mg/day



Any Suggestion?

I say run the test 500 and keep nolvadex on hand for gyno and pct.

Save your money not buying hcg or an AI.

You can have an AI on hand if it makes you feel better. From what I've read HCG is for guys who have been juicing for years and have become infertile.

Nolva will bring your nuts back PCT.

 

[Georgiepecker]

Great and good beginner cycle. Only use AI if needed and watch for any sides. Keep nolva handy for gyno and watch the gains come

 

[D_FIT]

I say run the test 500 and keep nolvadex on hand for gyno and pct.

Save your money not buying hcg or an AI.

You can have an AI on hand if it makes you feel better. From what I've read HCG is for guys who have been juicing for years and have become infertile.

Nolva will bring your nuts back PCT.

How many mg of nolva would you take on cycle to control estrogen?

 

[D_FIT]

Also, nolvadex controls my estrogen just fine.

What mg of nolva do you use on cycle?