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Ask the brofessor your ph/aas/pct questions

So everyone is aware, I created this thread for group discussion. Obviously I like to put my input, but I actually like to read and get other thoughts on things. Data isn't everything, and with anecdotal evidence, an abundance of sources I think helps one make better decisions.

PhamtomHan said:
Any ideas where I can get some PH in the USA?
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Edit: *this was a* Pm *sent* to me....

And this was another one:
ee09 said:
Saw your thread about ask me anything. I'm 35 taking first epistane cycle that I bought on eBay. Is there a better way to get PH in US? Probably want to try again 6 months or so
Thanks
Jeremy
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I can't really answer this question as all the ph compounds I buy are no longer legal to buy in the us, so must be acquired from other places. And sourcing illegal stuff isn't allowed.
As far as the legal stuff, I think there are a number of site sponsors who sell pro hormones.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-stores/
 
Right now I use raloxifene and a couple shots of hcg during the first couple weeks of pct. this might change as I'll be cruising for another 10 months or so on 250mg/week of test.
But back when I ran ph/ds steroids, here's my old pct thread. First post list what my typical pct protocol was. Also probably why I had above normal sperm count after running multiple oral cycles over 6 years
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Out of all that stuff, UR SPRAY is still my favorite supplement to add in pct. stuff is great.
 
big_pete said:
how many rest days a week do you bros take while on cycle? 1? 2? none?
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My thoughts are that, the greater the frequency/volume you do per week, the more sustainability becomes an issue. You can train every single day, but youll need to be onto any overreaching symptoms, and know when to deload.
 
big_pete said:
overreaching symptoms? deload? please explain
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Bro, whole articles are written on this sh1t. Umm, "overreaching" is where you accrue fatigue at a greater rate than your bodys capacity to recover. Or, your training exceeds your recovery. Symptoms are strength loss on lifts. This is not overtraining. Overtraining tends to be systemic, whereas you can overreach a specific exercise or bodypart. An analogy might be: overtraining is hpta shutdown, overreaching is hpta suppression. The former is pretty absolute, the latter occurs in degrees.

A deload is where you reduce training volume to allow recovery to catch up and fatigue to dissipitate.

Thats pretty crude, but you should get the gist. If youve ever run something like PHAT for a period of time, its likely you wouldve needed to do a deload.
 
ahh I see thanks bro I have experienced that just recently. had to reduce training volume and now am getting stronger again. progress halted and I felt weaker at one point.
 
big_pete said:
brofessor whats your thoughts on hcg?
use throught whole cycle, end of cycle, or pct??
dosing protocol?
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I prefer to use it in pct.
Dosing? I think I do a ml around once every few days for a couple weeks. It spikes my libido like crazy.
 
Brofessor I’ve just started TRT and have 3 full bottles of Fusion 4-ad. The good ol one step conversion stuff. Is it a waste to use it still as technically I’m on the best ‘test base’ there is?
 
What’s your thoughts on pre workout orals or injectables like oxy, dbol, Mtren, test suspension and so on. 2-3 times a week.

Also your thoughts on low doses of steroids for other purposes other than building muscle? for instance var/eq for collagen synthesise or if you know of any other purpose low doses could be benefitial.
 
Stacking 4-Androstenediol with test cypionate

So I’m currently on prescribed test cypionate 400mg weekly. However, I have several bottles of androtest on hand from last may that I ordered but stopped because of panic attacks that occurred while I was running androtest solo at a very high dose, which may have caused that. However, does any one see any benefit that maybe adding a capsule or 2 preworkout on top of the 400mg weekly might do anything. I mean similar to a test suspension, since the 4-Androstenediol converts directly to test?? Other wise I’m looking into 1-ad (1-Androstenediol 1 step to 1-test to add instead to the 400 cypionate weekly. Nano 1t looks probably like the most legit but so expensive compared to anabolic pharmaceuticals 1-ad. Any detailed advice is greatly appreciated! Thanks guys!
 
bradleyt1 said:
Stacking 4-Androstenediol with test cypionate

So I’m currently on prescribed test cypionate 400mg weekly. However, I have several bottles of androtest on hand from last may that I ordered but stopped because of panic attacks that occurred while I was running androtest solo at a very high dose, which may have caused that. However, does any one see any benefit that maybe adding a capsule or 2 preworkout on top of the 400mg weekly might do anything. I mean similar to a test suspension, since the 4-Androstenediol converts directly to test?? Other wise I’m looking into 1-ad (1-Androstenediol 1 step to 1-test to add instead to the 400 cypionate weekly. Nano 1t looks probably like the most legit but so expensive compared to anabolic pharmaceuticals 1-ad. Any detailed advice is greatly appreciated! Thanks guys!
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How did you get prescribed 400mg test c a week? Lol thats alot
 
christ83189 said:
How did you get prescribed 400mg test c a week? Lol thats alot
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Im surprises so many on this board are “floored” by 400mg per week. I know you guys know except muscle or who save Palumbo is.. any how there’s a video of him at envision medical getting 400mg test and 200mg Deca a week
 
bradleyt1 said:
Im surprises so many on this board are “floored” by 400mg per week. I know you guys know except muscle or who save Palumbo is.. any how there’s a video of him at envision medical getting 400mg test and 200mg Deca a week
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Crazy. Im on 200mg a week
 
bradleyt1 said:
Well what total test level does that put you at? Because I explained to my doc how I like to be around 1500ish total test and as long as we control estradiol and dht levels, he has no problem with it
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I actually just recently started i havent gotten my first bloods done yet. Im hoping i can up it a little bit. That was just my starting dose. Wouldnt mind getting on 400mg a week trt lol
 
christ83189 said:
I actually just recently started i havent gotten my first bloods done yet. Im hoping i can up it a little bit. That was just my starting dose. Wouldnt mind getting on 400mg a week trt lol
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Are you going through a clinic or just a primary doctor.. that reallly makes a difference
 
I want to run a cycle that is more friendly on my hairline since I’m genetically pre disposed to loosing my hair.

I was thinking

12 week run:
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Test E 200mg week
EQ 500mg week
Tbol as a kick start.

Pct:
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Clomid
Nolva
Natural test booster
PES erase (or something to that nature)

And ai on hand.

Reason for test being so low is because I know I should have it. BUT! It’s not so friendly on the hairline and I feel it would be a “safer” dosage.
 
Vikingbro said:
Brofessor I’ve just started TRT and have 3 full bottles of Fusion 4-ad. The good ol one step conversion stuff. Is it a waste to use it still as technically I’m on the best ‘test base’ there is?
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Im in the same boat as you being on trt but have 4 sealed bottles of androtest and hate to let them sit there! I’d imagine adding them in along with trt could definitely be a benefit as you are essentially getting more test added and it would be rapid since it’s oral. What you think??
 
DarthGainer said:
What’s your thoughts on pre workout orals or injectables like oxy, dbol, Mtren, test suspension and so on. 2-3 times a week.

Also your thoughts on low doses of steroids for other purposes other than building muscle? for instance var/eq for collagen synthesise or if you know of any other purpose low doses could be benefitial.
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Things like that are great for pulsing.
You mean therapeutic dosages and using the steroid for what it’s prescribed for? I’m for that. Athletes use completely different dosages than bb’rs. I’m also all for that. I’m not a B.B. er and don’t really want to gain anymore size.
I use performance enhdrugs to enhance my performance. :banana:
 
bradleyt1 said:
Well what total test level does that put you at? Because I explained to my doc how I like to be around 1500ish total test and as long as we control estradiol and dht levels, he has no problem with it
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200mg will put most men at 1,000 total test.
Normal test levels for a 35 -44 year old male are around 660.
Most doctors will want to keep a person at 600-800. Your at supraphysiological dosages at that high for sure.
 
Dthcore said:
I want to run a cycle that is more friendly on my hairline since I’m genetically pre disposed to loosing my hair.

I was thinking

12 week run:
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Test E 200mg week
EQ 500mg week
Tbol as a kick start.

Pct:
——————————
Clomid
Nolva
Natural test booster
PES erase (or something to that nature)

And ai on hand.

Reason for test being so low is because I know I should have it. BUT! It’s not so friendly on the hairline and I feel it would be a “safer” dosage.
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You could probably get away with 125mg test, and I’d plan to run something while the eq clears your system which will be around 4 weeks after last injection. I like tbol what’s your dosage?
 
bradleyt1 said:
Im in the same boat as you being on trt but have 4 sealed bottles of androtest and hate to let them sit there! I’d imagine adding them in along with trt could definitely be a benefit as you are essentially getting more test added and it would be rapid since it’s oral. What you think??
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Okay, personally I’d run 600mg of 4-androstenediol 45min before a workout (or big meal)
Idk what the fusion stuff is dosed like I’ve only ran old school pure 4-andro diol
 
brofessorx said:
200mg will put most men at 1,000 total test.
Normal test levels for a 35 -44 year old male are around 660.
Most doctors will want to keep a person at 600-800. Your at supraphysiological dosages at that high for sure.
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what are the negatives of running trt dose at 400mg weekly long term, if any?
 
brofessorx - just wanted to say Aroo! Fellow spartan. Ran my first back in 2014, got my trifecta in 2015... Life got in the way after that, but getting trifecta again this year.
 
All depends on your blood work. Been on that dose since September and my blood work is superb! Yet when I use to run only Prohormones before the real deal.. lover values were a mess etc and so forth! I mean I love going on these boards but at the end of the day it’s all broscience, and I have real world applications and proof through blood work, of course in time if something looks off I will make adjustments
 
Is an AI really necessary for PCT (or on cycle) after a DMZ solo cycle? Id originally planned to run Torem and BLR's Rebirth (plus Kings Blood) for PCT...also adding in Inhibit E starting week 2 of PCT and continuing for 5 weeks.
Also, I read a few logs from guys saying that they got prolactin issues after DMZ! I never though that would be an issue...Is this something i should worry about, and maybe run Inhibit P on cycle or after cycle?
If i do buy some, when would be the best time to run it?
 
brofessorx said:
You could probably get away with 125mg test, and I’d plan to run something while the eq clears your system which will be around 4 weeks after last injection. I like tbol what’s your dosage?
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I have quite a bit of test if 125mg a week is better though I will that. Haha

I’m thinking 60mg for tbol if I can get it.
I wish I could use my SuperDrol but that wouldn’t be so good for my hair haha. I also have epistane.
 
Brofessor;
My first pin of Test E gave me a migraine for 2 weeks. Doc changed it to gel. Want to start a cycle in 5 weeks of pinning Test E. What do peeps do for testosterone headaches?
 
bradleyt1 said:
but at the end of the day it’s all broscience, and I have real world applications and proof through blood work, of course in time if something looks off I will make adjustments
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Actually, you’re personal blood work is anecdotal evidence, and technically bro science. But each person is different. For a long term issue at supraphysiological dosages of testosterone, if you ran no ancillaries you’d have estrogen and a number of other issues from the htpa disruption caused. But then you take ancillaries and those come with their own sides.
As far as health, that’s probably going to come down to genetics. thebigt you’ve been around a long time so you might know I’ve ran all kinds of cycles since I started here in 08, but I recently posted blood work comparing 10 years ago (zero support supps but all orals) with now (all injectable and again with little to no support supps) and for me personally, nothing inside changed, and the numbers are very good. Where as I’d say most guys have issues with liver values, and chlosterol, I have none
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Dthcore said:
I have quite a bit of test if 125mg a week is better though I will that. Haha

I’m thinking 60mg for tbol if I can get it.
I wish I could use my SuperDrol but that wouldn’t be so good for my hair haha. I also have epistane.
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60mg tbol will be s good dosage.

Personally, I’d use the tbol at the end of the cycle while the esters clear. But most guys want that “on” feeling quick so like to use orals.
 
Kratom267 said:
Is an AI really necessary for PCT (or on cycle) after a DMZ solo cycle? Id originally planned to run Torem and BLR's Rebirth (plus Kings Blood) for PCT...also adding in Inhibit E starting week 2 of PCT and continuing for 5 weeks.
Also, I read a few logs from guys saying that they got prolactin issues after DMZ! I never though that would be an issue...Is this something i should worry about, and maybe run Inhibit P on cycle or after cycle?
If i do buy some, when would be the best time to run it?
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An (rx) ai is actually better at getting thing going than a serm.
Best pct will start with a strong ai, then bridge into a serm.
But for your situation, just start inhibit e on day one of your serm.
Run inhibit p through the cycle.
 
Braveheart43 said:
Brofessor;
My first pin of Test E gave me a migraine for 2 weeks. Doc changed it to gel. Want to start a cycle in 5 weeks of pinning Test E. What do peeps do for testosterone headaches?
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I take ibuprofen.
 
brofessorx said:
Yea, that’s why I was recommending it for that.
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Cool, like I said I have 4 bottles of androtest which is a Cyclodextrin 4-Androstenediol but I really wish someone would put out a 200 or 300mg cap version like the the old ergo pharm Androdiol select.. just curious when you used 4-Androdiol what brand did you have because I’m pretty sure it was long gone since 2004?
 
bradleyt1 said:
Cool, like I said I have 4 bottles of androtest which is a Cyclodextrin 4-Androstenediol but I really wish someone would put out a 200 or 300mg cap version like the the old ergo pharm Androdiol select.. just curious when you used 4-Androdiol what brand did you have because I’m pretty sure it was long gone since 2004?
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I was able to find it still for sale in 08 here in the states, it’s gone now but it was 200mg per cap and 120 caps per bottle. So I bought 2 bottles.
 
brofessorx said:
I was able to find it still for sale in 08 here in the states, it’s gone now but it was 200mg per cap and 120 caps per bottle. So I bought 2 bottles.
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4-Androdiol is legal in the UK but I just don’t understand why fusion supplements is literally the only 4-ad supplement in exsistence, like no other PH manufactures make it.. same thing with 1-Androstenediol and 19-nor diol. I would have loved to try all them back in the day
 
You can order the raw powder from a manufacturer in China legally if you lived in the UK.
 
The more I think about it, I’m probably better of just increasing test say to 500. My reasoning for this is because last year when I was off the test, I was running very high doses of the 4-ad androtest to compensate. I figured well.. it’s a one step direct precursor to test so let me dose the shot out of it.. but I actually felt a very weird mentally stimulating like anxiety type of effect. So I theorize that it has to do something with the 4-Androstenediol hormone itself because high test doesn’t give me that on edge feeling. Basically high dosed 4-ad did not feel like testosterone. If that makes any sense. Anyone here who’s tried both before care to share their opinion.
 
bradleyt1 said:
Im in the same boat as you being on trt but have 4 sealed bottles of androtest and hate to let them sit there! I’d imagine adding them in along with trt could definitely be a benefit as you are essentially getting more test added and it would be rapid since it’s oral. What you think??
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That was my theory. I’ve still got mine and may just use them. Was gonna sell them but haven’t had any real offers yet
 
brofessorx said:
Actually, you’re personal blood work is anecdotal evidence, and technically bro science. But each person is different. For a long term issue at supraphysiological dosages of testosterone, if you ran no ancillaries you’d have estrogen and a number of other issues from the htpa disruption caused. But then you take ancillaries and those come with their own sides.
As far as health, that’s probably going to come down to genetics. thebigt you’ve been around a long time so you might know I’ve ran all kinds of cycles since I started here in 08, but I recently posted blood work comparing 10 years ago (zero support supps but all orals) with now (all injectable and again with little to no support supps) and for me personally, nothing inside changed, and the numbers are very good. Where as I’d say most guys have issues with liver values, and chlosterol, I have none
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bro-you are a anomaly....lol!!!
 
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