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MENT Bear Strength

Unless just pulsing PWO 3-4x/wk, don’t use nor-test compounds for 12 weeks straight (unless cruising instead of PCT) - they’re very tough on HPTA recovery.

All I’ve read anecdotally supports the notion that it’s not very hepatoxic at all compared to most methyls, just extremely suppressive and aromatizes to very powerful methyl-estrogens

Good info would you mind posting a bit more of your research that explains all this please
 
Good info would you mind posting a bit more of your research that explains all this please

No links, but you don’t have to trust me.

Google the trestolone as a male contraceptive studies. Stuff really crushes fertility. HPTA suppression very swiftly, massive sperm count drop, low sperm motility. It’s honestly really interesting.

Anecdotally, pretty much anyone who’s used deca, tren, trest (especially the longer esters) can attest recovery is longer than from something like test or eq.
 
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Good info would you mind posting a bit more of your research that explains all this please
Ment and Trest don't have a 17a methyl, just a 7a methyl group, which is less toxic than the former but also has less bioavailability unless it's pinned.
 
I'm going ahead and getting a few more bottles for the future, and put in my stash, since everyone seems to be getting instant results. We definitely need to keep this thread going so we can track everyone's results.
 
No links, but you don’t have to trust me.

Google the trestolone as a male contraceptive studies. Stuff really crushes fertility. HPTA suppression very swiftly, massive sperm count drop, low sperm motility. It’s honestly really interesting.

Anecdotally, pretty much anyone who’s used deca, tren, trest (especially the longer esters) can attest recovery is longer than from something like test or eq.

You took my statement in the wrong light I knew you were right I was just looking for a direction of where you got your info. I have read about the male contraception studies a bit [ which has kept me from trying MENT or Trest so far] but failed to find much applicable data which applies to use as AAS.
 
Yeah the names can be confusing. Cgkone is pretty much right but strictly speaking

MENT= trest/trestolone

Mentabolan = PH to trest. OPs product is mentabolan (going by the label nomenclature).

To make things even more confusing, some people/companies have used the name "MENT" when they really mean mentabolan (PH), and so on.

So if I have OLs tr3st which is ment. Are you saying it’s weaker than Mentabolan? I’m wondering as I’ve just started at 50mg PWO only and don’t notice much. Maybe a touch of euphoria like a 3 out of 10 but not much else.
 
So if I have OLs tr3st which is ment. Are you saying it’s weaker than Mentabolan? I’m wondering as I’ve just started at 50mg PWO only and don’t notice much. Maybe a touch of euphoria like a 3 out of 10 but not much else.

Caps, or TD Trest?
 
So if I have OLs tr3st which is ment. Are you saying it’s weaker than Mentabolan? I’m wondering as I’ve just started at 50mg PWO only and don’t notice much. Maybe a touch of euphoria like a 3 out of 10 but not much else.
OL trest isn't ment... Ol trest is trest, ment is the ph to trest. Meaning it converts to trest in the body once its ingested.

I never really noticed too much from the oral. The td is much better imo.

Also it seems like w ment you need less (mg/mg) in order to get similar effects. I have a bottle of ment on the way and will def report back once I test it out.
 
OL trest isn't ment... Ol trest is trest, ment is the ph to trest. Meaning it converts to trest in the body once its ingested.

I never really noticed too much from the oral. The td is much better imo.

Also it seems like w ment you need less (mg/mg) in order to get similar effects. I have a bottle of ment on the way and will def report back once I test it out.

People differ on this one. For myself and a number of others Trest oral was superior for PW over TD. I'm still in the trial period of the Mentabolan......so far it seems like it will beat Trest for PW (for me), in terms of strength and aggression (definitely the aggression, for sure). But like I said, I'm still in my trial period on Ment (abolan). LOL. It's easier if we try to stick to one name per compound, as much as possible. :-)
 
OL trest isn't ment... Ol trest is trest, ment is the ph to trest. Meaning it converts to trest in the body once its ingested.

I never really noticed too much from the oral. The td is much better imo.

Also it seems like w ment you need less (mg/mg) in order to get similar effects. I have a bottle of ment on the way and will def report back once I test it out.

So if I have OLs trest that’s why I’m feeling not a lot in the gym? If I was to go 75/100mg PWO instead of 50mg would that help?
 
You took my statement in the wrong light I knew you were right I was just looking for a direction of where you got your info. I have read about the male contraception studies a bit [ which has kept me from trying MENT or Trest so far] but failed to find much applicable data which applies to use as AAS.

No no I knew you were just being curious - sorry if I sounded defensive as that was definitely not my intention.

I just genuinely don’t have any links to anything in particular and to provide anything would be a lot of googling and reading that would be no better than what you could produce for yourself. But I personally am very confident in this belief.

Anecdotally, the 2 oral cycles that have caused me the most time to feel right again were 19-andro and trenavar based - this is not coincidence. And all the bloodwork I’ve seen posted from other bros on forums speaks to the nor-test suppression as well.
 
This stuff is very suppressive. Highly recommend running a SERM throughout to fight suppression. But what do I know
 
So if I have OLs trest that’s why I’m feeling not a lot in the gym? If I was to go 75/100mg PWO instead of 50mg would that help?

I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for, PW in the gym (remember, it's not a stimulant).

I get... increased strength, pumps, and a little aggression from Trest oral PW.

Yeah, you could try bumping to 75mg PW.
 
I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for, PW in the gym (remember, it's not a stimulant).

I get... increased strength, pumps, and a little aggression from Trest oral PW.

Yeah, you could try bumping to 75mg PW.

I’m not using it as a PWO per se I’m just using it PWO for the strength/aggression that it’s supposed to offer. I’m only using it PWO because I know it’s a heavy methyl estrogenic compound and don’t wish to use it throughout the day unnecessarily. I’m currently on LGD 12mg too
 
My beautiful bottle came in yesterday, I will run it Thursday (2caps) and report back with the outcome. Starting small then working my way up to 4 caps if necessary!
 
Running 2 caps PWO tonight!

Those of you that have ran it, when’s the best time to dose PWO, 30 minutes? One hour? Longer?
 
Running 2 caps PWO tonight!

Those of you that have ran it, when’s the best time to dose PWO, 30 minutes? One hour? Longer?
I like it about 1 hr pwo.
I've tried it directly before, 30 min before and 1 hr before.

To me 1 hr in everything is fully active.
 
**Review**

About me:
27yo
7+ years of weight lifting
6’2 205
11% bf

Dosed 2 caps (30mg) an hour before my workout. I also had a PWO meal (chicken and rice) with the caps and 30min prior to my workout I took a non stim PWO for the pump :)

I did a high intensity Back and Chest workout. Workout was good, better than average I would say. Pump was good and endurance was also good. No negative sides.

I’d say my workout was better than average which is great but nothing crazy or outstanding. Tomorrow I will dose 3 caps and report back.
 
I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for, PW in the gym (remember, it's not a stimulant).

I get... increased strength, pumps, and a little aggression from Trest oral PW.

Yeah, you could try bumping to 75mg PW.
Vikingbro.....I get nothing from oral trest either.
Shooting 150mg trest ace is ok.
Try the MENT 60mg will rock your world
 
**Review**

About me:
27yo
7+ years of weight lifting
6’2 205
11% bf

Dosed 2 caps (30mg) an hour before my workout. I also had a PWO meal (chicken and rice) with the caps and 30min prior to my workout I took a non stim PWO for the pump :)

I did a high intensity Back and Chest workout. Workout was good, better than average I would say. Pump was good and endurance was also good. No negative sides.

I’d say my workout was better than average which is great but nothing crazy or outstanding. Tomorrow I will dose 3 caps and report back.
Can u compare it to 30 mg of another compound?
 
Can u compare it to 30 mg of another compound?

I tested it out again yesterday, 30mg (2caps) about an hour PWO. This time I took it early in the day and further away from a meal. But I also took my TRT shot (100mg) about an hour PWO. Due to some pain in both shoulders my workout was okay. Had to switch up some of my lifts due to the annoying pains.

Everyone’s different, you said you got nothing from Oral Trest, I loved Oral Trest. I would say MG for MG I got more from Oral Trest but then again I have only dosed this MENT twice. I will run it again next week this time 3-4caps and report back..

Only sides maybe a little nipple soreness but it could be in my head becasue im expecting it lol
 
I tested it out again yesterday, 30mg (2caps) about an hour PWO. This time I took it early in the day and further away from a meal. But I also took my TRT shot (100mg) about an hour PWO. Due to some pain in both shoulders my workout was okay. Had to switch up some of my lifts due to the annoying pains.

Everyone’s different, you said you got nothing from Oral Trest, I loved Oral Trest. I would say MG for MG I got more from Oral Trest but then again I have only dosed this MENT twice. I will run it again next week this time 3-4caps and report back..

Only sides maybe a little nipple soreness but it could be in my head becasue im expecting it lol
Very interesting
30 mg of oral trest I'd be yawning
 
I tested it out again yesterday, 30mg (2caps) about an hour PWO. This time I took it early in the day and further away from a meal. But I also took my TRT shot (100mg) about an hour PWO. Due to some pain in both shoulders my workout was okay. Had to switch up some of my lifts due to the annoying pains.

Everyone’s different, you said you got nothing from Oral Trest, I loved Oral Trest. I would say MG for MG I got more from Oral Trest but then again I have only dosed this MENT twice. I will run it again next week this time 3-4caps and report back..

Only sides maybe a little nipple soreness but it could be in my head becasue im expecting it lol
I shouldn't have said nothing.
The stuff from pre I felt.
Just nothing like the PH
 
I shouldn't have said nothing.
The stuff from pre I felt.
Just nothing like the PH

Yes the Oral Trest I had was from PRE... One thing I could about the Bear MENT is that it defiantly gives me great endurance, I can workout for two hours with no rest between sets if I wanted too. I can say that it easily outshines the Oral Trest in the endurance aspect.
 
Yes the Oral Trest I had was from PRE... One thing I could about the Bear MENT is that it defiantly gives me great endurance, I can workout for two hours with no rest between sets if I wanted too. I can say easily that’s it outshines the Oral Trest in the endurance aspect.
Which one for endurance do u prefer?
 
Ok guys I was AFK for awhile...

Could anyone PM me a source for Mentabolan...

Or is it gone forever.

If I could get my hands on that, my workouts would be FUKKIN KILLER
 
Has anybody else had any good things to say anout this i just ordered a bottle and im 1.5 weeks int a test and nandrolone cycle with combo ph with msten dmz and alpha as a kickstart. Was gona use this pre wo after my oral kickstart is over.
 
Has anybody else had any good things to say anout this i just ordered a bottle and im 1.5 weeks int a test and nandrolone cycle with combo ph with msten dmz and alpha as a kickstart. Was gona use this pre wo after my oral kickstart is over.
You can try a couple caps now.
If your on cycle support you should be fine
 
I would prepare for a BP spike with MENT.
I'm lucky I guess because my BP is pretty perfect .
I'm sure an hour into the MENT it high.
 
Ive never had high bp propblems on any oral i have used m sten dmz this combo stack im on now anadrol or dbol. I do take 25 mg anadrol pwo from time to time now and havent had any problems tho.
 
So im 3 weeks into my yest deca cycle and i was running a three stak w msten dmz and alpha 1 and it proved tobe to much for me no energy i mean really bad so im thinking o running this bottle of bear strength. Can someone telll me what the half life is on mentabolan please
 
I've been using Bear Strength for the past couple weeks at 3 caps PreWO and am literally feeling nothing oddly enough.

I've used oral Trest before and have had a good boost, but this I haven't noticed anything. Only thing it's seemed to do is cause some nipple sensitivity and make me feel sluggish.
 
I've been using Bear Strength for the past couple weeks at 3 caps PreWO and am literally feeling nothing oddly enough.

I've used oral Trest before and have had a good boost, but this I haven't noticed anything. Only thing it's seemed to do is cause some nipple sensitivity and make me feel sluggish.
U took 3 caps and nothing??
And you've been doing this daily for three weeks?
You sure homie?
Sounds fishy bro.
 
I've been using Bear Strength for the past couple weeks at 3 caps PreWO and am literally feeling nothing oddly enough.

I've used oral Trest before and have had a good boost, but this I haven't noticed anything. Only thing it's seemed to do is cause some nipple sensitivity and make me feel sluggish.

I actually prefer oral Trest preworkout. But Mentabolan is definitely a strong compound. It is one of the few compounds that can make me grumpily aggressive, if I'm not careful.
...and it has a LOT of Estrogenic activity.
 
I've been using Bear Strength for the past couple weeks at 3 caps PreWO and am literally feeling nothing oddly enough.

I've used oral Trest before and have had a good boost, but this I haven't noticed anything. Only thing it's seemed to do is cause some nipple sensitivity and make me feel sluggish.
Thats crazy. 3 caps was too much for me. 2 caps gets me going. I cant imagine not being able to feel 3
 
I actually prefer oral Trest preworkout. But Mentabolan is definitely a strong compound. It is one of the few compounds that can make me grumpily aggressive, if I'm not careful.
...and it has a LOT of Estrogenic activity.

Thats crazy. 3 caps was too much for me. 2 caps gets me going. I cant imagine not being able to feel 3

Yep!

I was pretty surprised considering I have used oral Trest before and found that really potent - but the Bear Strength MENT I just couldn't get much from it.

No idea why! I'll finish the rest of the bottle and see how it all goes.
 
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