How often to pin Sust?

[spirall08]

Is it better to pin Sust 2x/week or 3x/week?

I would think 3x is better due to the test prop in it, but someone told me it can be dangerous. He said not to pin Sust more than 2x/week cause it creates a phenyl P build up.

What do you guys think?

 

[Chados]

From what I understand you can use it like test E but for the most stable blood leveles 3 times a week. It's not dangerous. It's dangerous if you go 2gr of test a week.

 

[enhanced]

Subbed for more knowledge..

 

[enhanced]

I ran sust a few years ago, pinning Monday and Thursday. Cycle was my first and it was obviously great.. After that cycle was finished, I read on another forum that I should have been pinning eod..

 

[RickyBlobby]

I would pin EOD for the first 4 weeks. By then the long esters will have taken over then you can move down to twice a week if you want to.
Nothing dangerous about it unless you run a super high dose, as stated earlier.

 

[Matthersby]

As stated, there’s nowhere near enough phenyl in there in the first place. I’ve always enjoyed just buying literally one vial of prop and running it @275-300 the first 3 1/2 weeks while your E or C are building up.. Probably just as cheap as buying sust and you’ll get more out of it imo. Sust never really did it for me. Odd doses of everything

 

[Godstrength]

It has such a short amount of prop and phenyl prop (true sustanon, ugl mgs may vary along w esters) that pinning twice a week is fine. If it makes you feel better you could do 3x week until the middle and long esters start kicking in but not needed imo. The difference would be negligible.

Sustanon people either love it or hate it lol
You rarely find anything in between.

 

[RickyBlobby]

It has such a short amount of prop and phenyl prop (true sustanon, ugl mgs may vary along w esters) that pinning twice a week is fine. If it makes you feel better you could do 3x week until the middle and long esters start kicking in but not needed imo. The difference would be negligible.

Sustanon people either love it or hate it lol
You rarely find anything in between.

What if he frontliaded with a higher mg so he could actually take advantage of the short eaters? At that point do you think it would be worth pinning EOD?

 

[Godstrength]

What if he frontliaded with a higher mg so he could actually take advantage of the short eaters? At that point do you think it would be worth pinning EOD?

True Sustanon has 30mg prop 60mg phenylpropionate per 250mg. So 90/250 of short esters. If your pinning 500 a week That's 180mg of the total that is short esters. The phenylpropionate actually has a half life of 5 days so 2x per week is fine there. Also the propionate is the smallest amount so actually carries the least of the load. At 30mg/250 it gives a nice little pop when starting up a cycle. A lot of people don't like Sustanon and even though it's a small amount you do feel it working right off the bat. I think you could definitely front load at say a 1g a week or 750mg and do every other day or 3x per week pinning. 250 eod would come out to 875 mg/week and would definitely take advantage of the short esters. Absolutely could do that for the first 2 to 3 weeks.

At some point though the isacaproate and decanoate are going to start carrying a majority of the load. Again true Sustanon contains isacaproate 60 mg and decanoate 100mg/ 250. At that point 2x per week is plenty.

 

[spirall08]

Thanks all for the replies. Seems like it's safe to go with either 2x or 3x a week.

Quick follow up for anyone still following.... I plan on running the Sust with NPP. First time using NPP. Obviously the NPP has to be pinned 3-4x a week.

Would I be better off pinning the Sust with every NPP shot? Or still keep the Sust to 2x week while doing the NPP 3-4x?

 

[RickyBlobby]

If you are going to frontload at 875mg for the first 3 weeks I would just pin both at the same time. Then after 3 weeks you can drop to 2x weekly or continue pinning at same time as NPP.