3rd Tren cycle. Could use advice.

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So I’m going into my third run with Tren, I’ve found I have no issues with acetate but I’m going to try enthanate for 10 weeks it’s time. My last 2 Tren cycles (not back to back) was 350-400 Tren and 400 Test (first run), 650 Test (second run).
This time around I was thinking of try 400 Tren e and 250 test e.

Has anyone had experience and success with moderate Tren/low test? Hopefully who ever answers has tried higher test as well... it’s hard to sift through some of the info on the web. Think this will work for me?

I’m currently 280lbs, 15-17% BF and starting a 3-4 month cut.
Thanks for the help guys!
 
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So I’m going into my third run with Tren, I’ve found I have no issues with acetate but I’m going to try enthanate for 10 weeks it’s time. My last 2 Tren cycles (not back to back) was 350-400 Tren and 400 Test (first run), 650 Test (second run).
This time around I was thinking of try 400 Tren e and 250 test e.

Has anyone had experience and success with moderate Tren/low test? Hopefully who ever answers has tried higher test as well... it’s hard to sift through some of the info on the web. Think this will work for me?

I’m currently 280lbs, 15-17% BF and starting a 3-4 month cut.
Thanks for the help guys!
I have and I prefer keeping test low. If you don't get sides from tren then don't push it. 400 is a great dosage.
 

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I have and I prefer keeping test low. If you don't get sides from tren then don't push it. 400 is a great dosage.
So you would recommend 250 test 400 Tren as a good cutting cycle?
 

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Anyone else have a similar or different experience?
 
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So you would recommend 250 test 400 Tren as a good cutting cycle?
Oh absolutely. Tren is extremly powerful not only to gain but to keep muscles during a deficit. 200 tren is stronger than 500 test in ny opinion
 

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Oh absolutely. Tren is extremly powerful not only to gain but to keep muscles during a deficit. 200 tren is stronger than 500 test in ny opinion
I’m pretty sure the adrogenic/anabolic ratio for test is 100/100 and Tren is 500/500, but that’s from a rat test. Either way that’s a 5:1 ratio of Test to Tren. So it’s quite strong, I like Tren for the strength and extra fat loss it seems to give me.
 
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I’m pretty sure the adrogenic/anabolic ratio for test is 100/100 and Tren is 500/500, but that’s from a rat test. Either way that’s a 5:1 ratio of Test to Tren. So it’s quite strong, I like Tren for the strength and extra fat loss it seems to give me.
You don't have to look at ratings cause they are weirdly measured. You just have to run it to see what it does to your body. I can gain just as much weight on test alone and look more bloated. When I throw in tren I will end up having bigger arms that will stick, veiny shoulders with separated muscles. If I do test only and gain 30 pounds vs adding tren I almost keep everything after the tren cause its all lean musclemass. Just don't use this compound forever cause its so damn toxic and you can feel it just by the urin smelling strong every day no Matter how much water you drink. Didnt you run this quite recently? If so I suggest you to wait a little or run something like primo which will be just as easy to keep, slower gains and not as strong but it will all be muscles.
 
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^Id agree with the basic idea Chados is recommending here.

Ive run low test and no test with tren, no probs. The effects of tren were not diminished in any way. Ive never run "high" test with tren simply because I dont see the need nor care to push the envelope with sides. Id rather risk leaving some gainz on the table going low/no test, than risk jeopardising the cycle cos of sides.
 
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I have only ever run Tren with low test, and it's been great. Next to no sides this way for me.
 

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You don't have to look at ratings cause they are weirdly measured. You just have to run it to see what it does to your body. I can gain just as much weight on test alone and look more bloated. When I throw in tren I will end up having bigger arms that will stick, veiny shoulders with separated muscles. If I do test only and gain 30 pounds vs adding tren I almost keep everything after the tren cause its all lean musclemass. Just don't use this compound forever cause its so damn toxic and you can feel it just by the urin smelling strong every day no Matter how much water you drink. Didnt you run this quite recently? If so I suggest you to wait a little or run something like primo which will be just as easy to keep, slower gains and not as strong but it will all be muscles.
My last cycle of Tren finished August of 2017 so it’s been just past 8 months (finished it on the 2nd). I don’t know if 8 months is enough, but my blood work has been done about 2-3 times since then and everything seems to be good. Other than test because as of January I’ve been on trt. Hence why I was thinking of just leaving the test dose around 250mg.
 
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My last cycle of Tren finished August of 2017 so it’s been just past 8 months (finished it on the 2nd). I don’t know if 8 months is enough, but my blood work has been done about 2-3 times since then and everything seems to be good. Other than test because as of January I’ve been on trt. Hence why I was thinking of just leaving the test dose around 250mg.
That's fine.. the test is good too, I bulked on that before.
 

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