Are all PHs to tren weak?
Good question. Tren PH compounds tend to give me strength and useful for recomp maybe. I've have tried Blackstone Labs Super Trenabol and DienDiol oral too, still have most of a bottle of BSL left. They don't seem as mind blowing as IM Tren results we hear of or as strong as other orals like DMZ, etc.Are all PHs to tren weak?
Nice. Where???Is what I posted above just regular trenavar and epistane
Mix of Epistane and Trenavar.
PRE has an oral version of Tren for research onlyWhat tren prohormone compounds are still around?
ThanksMix of Epistane and Trenavar.
Like I briefly touched upon in another thread, there is a "tren" product that is not trenavar but actually dienolone. Everything I've seen on it shows it to be extremely potent - both in terms of gains and side effects. It's definitely not as popular as trenavar but looks to be stronger. Might be something worth looking into.Are all PHs to tren weak?
That's what made me post this thread.Like I briefly touched upon in another thread, there is a "tren" product that is not trenavar but actually dienolone. Everything I've seen on it shows it to be extremely potent - both in terms of gains and side effects. It's definitely not as popular as trenavar but looks to be stronger. Might be something worth looking into.
The one in the pic is trenavar. The other "tren" is estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione .. similar looking compound but diene instead of triene.That's what made me post this thread.
Is the chemical in the picture anything special.
I think its just regular trenevar but I was hoping it was something like you said.
This is my experience. People don’t get results because they’re taking the wrong doses. What you’ve got in that bottle wouldn’t be enough at 5/day for your size (and the Epi would be maxing out, 60mg is my sweet spot on Stane).Used Trenavar a few years ago...powerful stuff but the side effects end up ruining your life haha. The night sweats alone are unbearable (for me at least). Get used to sleeping on towels!
The strength gains are very high though.
If you both train together, run logs and compare!Yeah I'm just going to shoot real Tren and give the bottle to my bro.
We don't train together.If you both train together, run logs and compare!
Have you ran tren already? It looks very appealing for the results but the sides sound pretty bad. I really want to run it a few cycles down the roadYeah I'm just going to shoot real Tren and give the bottle to my bro.
YupHave you ran tren already? It looks very appealing for the results but the sides sound pretty bad. I really want to run it a few cycles down the road
How often do you pin the prop? That just seems like alot of pinning for a cycle of any length rather than just using it as a kickstart lol i mean i would do it but it just seems like it would get to be a pain in the ass after a whileYup
6 weeks at the end of my last cycle.
Was really amazing .
I was sweaty and not hungry first 2 weeks
Then It was cool
I was also on a lot of prop
500mg test P/500mg tren ace.
So that was over kill
This time ill be on 600 mg EQ
Test 200 prop
Tren Ace 400
Hopefully 8 weeks
At the end of 16 week blast
900mg EQ/300 test
Maybe try m1T at the beginning of the blast
ED or EODHow often do you pin the prop? That just seems like alot of pinning for a cycle of any length rather than just using it as a kickstart lol i mean i would do it but it just seems like it would get to be a pain in the ass after a while
I had just got an extra bottle.I’m confused, why even think about an oral option when your already set on pinning and already have experience with which is much easier on your insides etc...
I'm all ears broFair enough, but IM Mtren is king over everything you mentioned. Best PWO even over no ester Test, tren, Dbol in oil or apart of a cycle as it has a 4 hr half life.
Yeah stick with 400 tren. It's so damn powerful and sides are truly horrible if you get them.Yup
6 weeks at the end of my last cycle.
Was really amazing .
I was sweaty and not hungry first 2 weeks
Then It was cool
I was also on a lot of prop
500mg test P/500mg tren ace.
So that was over kill
This time ill be on 600 mg EQ
Test 200 prop
Tren Ace 400
Hopefully 8 weeks
At the end of 16 week blast
900mg EQ/300 test
Maybe try m1T at the beginning of the blast
Yes unfortunately it doesn't take away anxiety, paranoia, night sweats etc. As soon as you go over a certain amount it's just inevitable.Cardarine keeps sides at bay, best accessory you could possibly add to any tren run especially cardiovascular/bronchial constriction. Night and day difference.
Ran Dragon’s M1T at 15mg several years back...that stuff is no joke. Terrific powerhouse compound for a kickstart. The half life is longer, 8-12 hours as I recall.Yup
6 weeks at the end of my last cycle.
Was really amazing .
I was sweaty and not hungry first 2 weeks
Then It was cool
I was also on a lot of prop
500mg test P/500mg tren ace.
So that was over kill
This time ill be on 600 mg EQ
Test 200 prop
Tren Ace 400
Hopefully 8 weeks
At the end of 16 week blast
900mg EQ/300 test
Maybe try m1T at the beginning of the blast
not exactly..PRE has an oral version of Tren for research only
It is similar to or tren.not exactly..
I would never run tren without GWCardarine keeps sides at bay, best accessory you could possibly add to any tren run especially cardiovascular/bronchial constriction. Night and day difference.
I believe PRE has transdermal dien diol. Which I'm guessing is like the "tren" that converts to dienolone and not trenbolone.... Sometimes I even confuse myself though...It is similar to or tren.
Just different make up.
Correct?
At least that's what I thought.
I logged it, it's good for strength power and pumps, apply where skin is thin. Not a huge mass gainer, but yeah transdermal Tren PH is a good description for it.I believe PRE has transdermal dien diol. Which I'm guessing is like the "tren" that converts to dienolone and not trenbolone.... Sometimes I even confuse myself though...
not really, its a nor-test... meaning its "not testosterone" but there are literally dozens of hormones that are nor-tests, like deca for example. tren is a nor test yes but it isn't trest. they both make you sweat at night and help burn fat, but that's where the similarities end.. tren doesn't convert to estrogen (directly) but trest absolutely does directly convert to methyl estrogen. I could list more but you get the idea.It is similar to or tren.
Just different make up.
Correct?
At least that's what I thought.
But the Dion diol converts to......?not really, its a nor-test... meaning its "not testosterone" but there are literally dozens of hormones that are nor-tests, like deca for example. tren is a nor test yes but it isn't trest. they both make you sweat at night and help burn fat, but that's where the similarities end.. tren doesn't convert to estrogen (directly) but trest absolutely does directly convert to methyl estrogen. I could list more but you get the idea.
How much do you run? Never used it but if it helps the lipids that’s a big plus.I would never run tren without GW
dienolone..But the Dion diol converts to......?
Gotcha....dienolone.dienolone..
I think the confusion comes from the old school PHs using diens, and calling them x-tren ect.. really all just a marketing ploy.
Supposed to be decidedly wetterGotcha....dienolone.
Which has effects "like" Tren .But is not tren.
Even more interestingSupposed to be decidedly wetter
dose dependant.. It could be a bulker at higher doses.Even more interesting
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