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Dma378

Dma378

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My test subject is me, a human. I know this has never been done before, so I hope this experiment goes well.

Also haven’t logged or even cycled in quite some time, so excited to get back at it and logging always holds me accountable. So welcome to all who join that aid in that process.

I have en route some new compounds (for me) from a new company, that I have reason to put some faith in.

Cycle and log will be at least 60 days of this particular setup.

TD test base 100mg/day (this is my usual trt)

Premier Oils Trest Ace
Premier Oils Mast Diol Prop
Premier Oils SR9009 (water based)
Premier Oils Anadrol Oxime
Premier Oils Formestane

The Trest and Mast diol will be pinned eod at 1ml each (75mg & 100mg respectively)

The SR will be pinned pwo only (1ml at 25mg)

Adrol oxime will be 3 caps per day for first 40 days (75mg per day)

Formestane TD application 1ml (75mg) eod and adjust as needed.

I have prescribed anastrozole for trt if needed, but will be relying on the formestane to do the job.

I have only used td trest (currently using, but will be stopping). I have used Mast Prop and Mast E multiple times, so will be able to gauge the similarity as it should be essentially the same thing.

Goal is to add some mass and strength!!

Stats:
39 years old
5’11”
219lbs
14-15% bf

Lifts:
Dead 455
Bench 295
Squat 345
DB Shoul Pr 90’s x 5 *
Pull Ups 12 dead-hang

* I don’t do heavy standing OHP anymore, as it bothers my back. I do them, just a little lighter. I gauge my shoulder pressing strength with seated DB press

Have been eating a clean surplus for a couple months. Diet is almost keto with fat over 200 daily, but protein also over 200 probably keeps me out of heavy ketosis. Carb sources are limited to 3 things...bananas, sweet potatoes, and rice a couple days per week for performance and growth. Had to add them when the td trest kicked in.

All goods are set to arrive end of the week, so I will do it all justice by adding pics in on Day 1.

Haven’t been around much lately so hope some of the newer guys follow and enjoy the log. And hope some of the vets who’ve followed before find this as entertaining as some of the past logs. Food porn and heavy metal recommendations a plenty on tap!!

Pretty freaking stoked, so welcome!!
 
I will elaborate further on my workout routine. Probably won’t log full workouts but just highlight the stuff that excites me!!
 
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Toren said:
Always in for one of your logs!

I didn't know PO had formestane.....interesting.
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Welcome guys.

I missed the boat on trying formestane before the ban. So excited to finally give it a try.

This will be an interesting feeling out for me. Combining the heavy aromatization of the trest and lesser adrol oxime, with the dry mast diol and form. By all rights ought to be a sweet “feel good” combo.
 
Dma378 said:
Welcome guys.

I missed the boat on trying formestane before the ban. So excited to finally give it a try.

This will be an interesting feeling out for me. Combining the heavy aromatization of the trest and lesser adrol oxime, with the dry mast diol and form. By all rights ought to be a sweet “feel good” combo.
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My first experience with Formestane was with OL TransForm. I paired it with Ostarine and by the end of the first week I felt surpressed for the first time in my life! I'm sure Osta played a role in that but the combination was not the best idea at those doses. In hindsight, 50-100mg of Formestane was too much to combat the rise in SHBG from the Osta. It was years ago, I wanted them gains quickly! Dropping the Formestane dose and adding in some 11-KT improved the situation a bit.

Interested to see how it works for you at that starting dose.

When did you switch to TD Test for TRT? And why did you make that change?
 
Toren said:
My first experience with Formestane was with OL TransForm. I paired it with Ostarine and by the end of the first week I felt surpressed for the first time in my life! I'm sure Osta played a role in that but the combination was not the best idea at those doses. In hindsight, 50-100mg of Formestane was too much to combat the rise in SHBG from the Osta. It was years ago, I wanted them gains quickly! Dropping the Formestane dose and adding in some 11-KT improved the situation a bit.

Interested to see how it works for you at that starting dose.

When did you switch to TD Test for TRT? And why did you make that change?
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To be completely honest, I find that I’m able to actually keep myself at proper trt levels with the td. Blood work last 2 times has had me in the high 900’s. Whereas when pinning I tend to overdose and stay in “cycle mode”. When I stopped pinning I was actually able to take a much needed long break from any cycling or “add ons” to my trt. So I will probably keep it that way.

Here is last lab results from 2 months ago. Pretty happy with these #’s. Free Test nice and high compared to last test, where it was tanked. But I was crushing my e2!! Didn’t feel like it though.

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Hey, as long as it works for you, that's all that matters. I understand how easy it is to "accidentally" pull that plunger back an extra tick or two when your mind is in "cycle mode". Long-term health outlook is so important as the 40's approach. Glad you had a nice long break. That break should hopefully allow those gains to come back quickly.

Numbers look pretty good overall! But damn that Estradiol number!
 
Man loving the sauna at new gym. Really helps reduce any bloating and just feels great overall. Would be interested to see exactly how much water I lose in there each time. Did some stretching in there today and that really got the sweat rolling. Was hoping picture would capture the solid stream of sweat running from face!!

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I would love to have a sauna at the house. Especially after a two-day sodium bender with a few wobbly pops on top. Face bloat be gone!

The best I can muster is a 20 minute steaming hot shower. :[
 
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Alright before we get too far along, and everything should be arriving in the next couple days, I snapped some crappy starting pics. Pretty flat here but tried to get pumped lol.

This is 216 lbs at 5’11”

Trt only since mid-September, until 3 weeks ago started a td trest and superdrol cycle in which I dropped the SD after just a few days. So td trest at 60mg/day for 3 weeks now.

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I’ll try and get some pump pics too while in the gym to gauge vascularity, hardness and size difference from now until end of cycle.
 
As well as eating in a decent surplus for a couple months. Was sitting around 205 around Christmas when started tracking surplus calories and macros.
 
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Typical lunch. I definitely get most of my calories at night

And I’m kind of a diet soda addict. 1 per day keeps the eating clean insanity away!!
 
Well, tracking on pins is off. Was supposed to land yesterday but it never updated or landed. Hopefully just a 1 day correction and can still get this thing rocking tonight.

Also decided to go ahead and pin my test. Might as well. One less thing in the regiment of this cycle to think about. So will pin 50mg of test prop with the trest ace and mast diol eod.
 
Any thoughts on maybe doing ED dosing (1/2ml) of formestane versus EOD dosing (1ml)? From my recollection, the oral half-life is only 2-3 hours. The absorption of your TD form will delay some of the release and in essence elongate the elimination process, but I can't imagine it would delay the process more than a few more hours... You might have better stability with a smaller ED dose schedule. Maybe something to consider or keep an eye on.
 
Toren said:
Any thoughts on maybe doing ED dosing (1/2ml) of formestane versus EOD dosing (1ml)? From my recollection, the oral half-life is only 2-3 hours. The absorption of your TD form will delay some of the release and in essence elongate the elimination process, but I can't imagine it would delay the process more than a few more hours... You might have better stability with a smaller ED dose schedule. Maybe something to consider or keep an eye on.
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Just went and reconfirmed this info, as that’s what I remembered people dosing it like.

But recently read an article stating half life was 4 days!! And now that I went back to that source, I realized that it is about as reliable as The Onion. In fact I would call it The Onion of Anabolic websites.

Rhymes with Schmevolutionary

Thanks for the pro tip buddy
 
I think the reported half-lives of all of the popular AIs are potentially and considerably less in men than they are in women. Considering most, if not all of those AIs are designed and tested for women, it makes sense, without more in-depth info, that those half-lives are all based on female metabolism of said drug. That makes sense as men generally have a higher metabolic rate, both resting and active, then do women. That reason, and other reasons as well, indicate that a quicker rate of elimination makes sense.

I remember having a discussion about AIs in a thread on AM and Exemestane came up as a topic. Exemestane is generally considered to have a 24hr. half-life but rascal14 remembered reading that it had a much shorter half-life in men. Some studies indeed suggest a 9-hour half-life in young males...
 
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I think the reported half-lives of all of the popular AIs are potentially and considerably less in men than they are in women. Considering most, if not all of those AIs are designed and tested for women, it makes sense, without more in-depth info, that those half-lives are all based on female metabolism of said drug. That makes sense as men generally have a higher metabolic rate, both resting and active, then do women. That reason, and other reasons as well, indicate that a quicker rate of elimination makes sense.

I remember having a discussion about AIs in a thread on AM and Exemestane came up as a topic. Exemestane is generally considered to have a 24hr. half-life but rascal14 remembered reading that it had a much shorter half-life in men. Some studies indeed suggest a 9-hour half-life in young males...
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Yup you are correct, shorter half-life in men for A.I.'s. Not sure why, probably faster metabolic clearance and androgen influence. T3 is the same way. There are studies supporting this but I'm too lazy to look right now.
 
Nothing landed today so should be going this weekend.

However, the PRE TD Trest makes me feel like a million bucks and lifts are going up with my weight. Good stuff. But because of weight increase I need to edit first post for legitimacy of the PO gear coming and to gauge it accurately.

Updating weight (up), Pull Up total (down) and DB Shoulder Press (up)
 
Dma378 said:
Nothing landed today so should be going this weekend.

However, the PRE TD Trest makes me feel like a million bucks and lifts are going up with my weight. Good stuff. But because of weight increase I need to edit first post for legitimacy of the PO gear coming and to gauge it accurately.

Updating weight (up), Pull Up total (down) and DB Shoulder Press (up)
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Got pre td trest staring at me every time I open my drawer. Glad to hear so many good things. Wish I could dive into it now. A few more months....
 
Just looked on the premier oils site, looks like there is formastane available! Plus a ton of other cool stuff....
 
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Touchdown!!

1st Oxydiol-A down. And tracking on pins finally updated to hitting my city. So should be starting the oils tomorrow.
 
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Just ate 1/3 of a brisket myself. Also pretty impressed with this precooked brisket from Walmart. I just cooked it at about half the recommended temp for twice as long. It’s actually pretty amazing. Was skeptical, but definitely will buy again.

Snagged a pin from a buddy and also took 1st dose of Trest and Mast diol, 1ml each.
 
Considering I haven’t pinned anything in 6 months, and there is zero soreness in my delt from 2ml, I would say this gear is super smooth.
 
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Touchdown!!

1st Oxydiol-A down. And tracking on pins finally updated to hitting my city. So should be starting the oils tomorrow.
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I hope that stuff is as good as it looks because that is just a beautiful sight!
 
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