Hello , I would like to know what can be the side effectsof transdermal trest 45mg for 8 weeks as a test base for a tbol 60mg a day for 8 weeks. Also what's going to be a good pct for it at that dosage? signifiant gains are attainable at that dosage?
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Side effects would be similar/the same as it would be with any other suppressive compound because at the end of the day the same result is occurring - reduced natural testosterone output and your other hormones being out of whack.
The thing to be careful of with Trest is Estrogen and Prolactin issues in particular, as it does convert to a potent form of estrogen and being from the Nandrolone family it can raise Prolactin quite a bit.
PCT is and should always be the same.
Pick a SERM of choice (not both) whether it be Nolva or Clomid. There are countless threads on this forum as for specific dosages if you look around.
Make sure you have an AI on hand such as Exemestane/Aromasin for possible Estrogen side effects (if you look at studies on Exemestane it’s quite favourable on lipids, Testosterone increases etc).
The above are most important. A SERM to kick start things and an AI to combat sides if they come about.
You could even pair the above with a good natural Test booster with researched backed ingredients (KSM-66, Zinc, Longjack, Vit D, Forskolin etc) such as Alphamax XT, M Test or a good all in one product like Super PCT or Kingsblood by Olympus Labs.
I’ve run a 12 week Trest cycle and ran the above PCT with good results. Maintained a lot of my gains and had blood work show that I bounced back quite well too. Everyone is different, but what I have said above are the essentials. No need for much else.
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Man you covered most of my questions ! Thank you sir!
I still need to get an answer for this : If Exemestane is used as an AI , what's a good dosage and frequency to be on the safe side ? AI should be continued post cycle ? 45mg TD Trest is enough to illicit gains in addition to tbol or should add more?
Only use it you have estrogenic sides. Usually 12.5mg is a good dosage and if it’s daily, every second or every third day depends on your sides in terms of estrogen.
It’s really dependant on the person. I would start off on the smaller end of the scale and ramp it up ONLY if needed for the AI.
For TD Trest I wouldn’t go above 100mg/day. Start on the lower end (50mg or so) and see how you go.
I’ve always ramped it from 50 to 100 max.
Don’t go overboard with the Trest. Higher you go is the more likely you’ll get unwanted side effects.
If I was the op I’d run a DHT with this cycle. It will help estrogen sides down and keep you from shooting blanks in the bed.
Okay , what can you advise me as DHT ? something like epiandro(I don't like it for the anxiety) or like yk11?
Okay got it . So a good indicator for estrogenic sides in order to start the AI is the sore nips right? 12.5mg each 3 days to start with .8 weeks looks a good length ?
I’m not a fan of EPI Andro either, so I use androsterone. It relaxes me, gives me a feeling of self confidence.
Sensitive nips, not necessary sore. Also being bloated around my mid section is another symptom or just feeling like your skin is thick.
Yes that androsterone looks promising as I'm going to use trest as test base , adding something like yk11 that will helps with muscle gain and give some similar dht effects to androsterone , not a good idea?
Because trest has no dht conversionI would like to know why I see DHT based compound is often suggested with trest
Because trest has no dht conversion
Oh Okay , it's mandatory to run a DHT based compound with it or can be missed when run with tbol and lgd
I would roll tbol at 60mg/day for 6 weeks, trest at 50mg for first 4 weeks, then 75-100 last 4 weeks. Tbol at 8 weeks while not the harshest oral still maybe a bit much on the organs...
I'm running trest at the moment. Currently 2 weeks into a Nanodrol and Trest cycle and i think I've got some ball shrinkage, can't be sure tho.