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Sarm cycle

Daff

Daff

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Been doing alot of reserch sarms vs prohormones and I'm swaying more towards sarms at this point just wandering if you could look at this cycle and any input to tweak it up or if it's too much would be appricated
It would be a 12 week cycle of

Mk677 throughout the cycle
15mg of ldg
50mg s4 split 25mg am/ 25mg pm
15mg cardirene 30 min pre workout

Then pct of Clomid was going to run ostarine and clomid but then I'm thinking il need to pct my pct so dosent seem worth it??? Also I'm not sure if I need to run a test base with sarms dose it defete the object of sarms?
Thanks for your input?
 
If you have never done anything like this before I would pick either lgd or S4 not both. Lgd is better suited to bulk and S4 for cutting so would depend on your goals. Cardarine can be used either way and I would only use mk if bulking due to its ability to cause hunger and retain water.
 
Wobmarvel said:
If you have never done anything like this before I would pick either lgd or S4 not both. Lgd is better suited to bulk and S4 for cutting so would depend on your goals. Cardarine can be used either way and I would only use mk if bulking due to its ability to cause hunger and retain water.
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Cheers for takeing the time bro, much appricated
I'm going for a bulk, iv used aas before also prohormones, never really looked at sarms, I can't do aas anymore (Persnal reasons) so I'm looking at alternatives,
But I might drop the s4 and run the ldg as you ssy see how I go on first cycle, do my doses look right or would you up or lower the ldg?
 
Been running my very first Sarms cycle the last couple weeks; taking both S4 and LGD myself. Sticking with 10mg per day for LGD, 5mg twice a day.

Don't have clomid for a pct, was just going to stack superpct/test1fy. Good call on keeping ost out of your pct though. Let us know how it goes!
 
Dgordan said:
Been running my very first Sarms cycle the last couple weeks; taking both S4 and LGD myself. Sticking with 10mg per day for LGD, 5mg twice a day.

Don't have clomid for a pct, was just going to stack superpct/test1fy. Good call on keeping ost out of your pct though. Let us know how it goes!
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Grab a SERM
 
Dgordan said:
Been running my very first Sarms cycle the last couple weeks; taking both S4 and LGD myself. Sticking with 10mg per day for LGD, 5mg twice a day.

Don't have clomid for a pct, was just going to stack superpct/test1fy. Good call on keeping ost out of your pct though. Let us know how it goes!
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Cheers bro, how's your cycle treating you, has it kicked in yet? Let me know how yours runs, good luck bro
 
Daff said:
Cheers bro, how's your cycle treating you, has it kicked in yet? Let me know how yours runs, good luck bro
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Oh heck yeah, on week 6 now and have noticed significant increase in strength and endurance. Overall appearance and fullness has improved too. Will definitely run another cycle in the future.
 
I usually roll with clomid. I have used otc before with sarms but it's a risky game to play. I think if ran solo lgd at 15 is the sweet spot. Wouldn't bother with a test base. I have tried 4 andro with lgd but didn't notice any difference. I'd you were gonna use test as a test base I wouldnt bother with the sarms and just run a test cycle.
 
In my experience sarms need more commitment than pro hormones and steroids. You always get out what you put in but you can be more relaxed regarding workout frequency and diet with pro hormones and still see decent results. Sarms definitely work but everything really needs to be on point.
 
Wobmarvel said:
In my experience sarms need more commitment than pro hormones and steroids. You always get out what you put in but you can be more relaxed regarding workout frequency and diet with pro hormones and still see decent results. Sarms definitely work but everything really needs to be on point.
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I'll keep that in mind bro, thanks for the input it's very much appricated, sarms seem to be alot less toxic that's what's swaying me at min if read there not as big gains and diet needs to be spot on, I'm keep you posted
 
Just finished my last cycle a couple weeks ago, waiting until February to start next bulk cycle... Did Msten and was able to keep 9lbs. Thinking about running a sarm next; considering LGD or S23. Still doing my research... usually read every post mentioning sarms.

Thinking about doing 8 week cycle... 4 weeks LGD or S23 then 4 weeks using Gear from Muscle Gelz (Rad140 / SR9009). Basically a Bulk then Recomp stack.

We will see.
 
I looked at s23 but I can't seem to find enough user info on it so I'm playing it safe with LGD, il be logging mine bro so I'm tag you in
 
Daff said:
I looked at s23 but I can't seem to find enough user info on it so I'm playing it safe with LGD, il be logging mine bro so I'm tag you in
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Yea, I am leaning toward LGD as well...

Good luck with the cycle, looking forward to reading the log!
 
Daff said:
I'll keep that in mind bro, thanks for the input it's very much appricated, sarms seem to be alot less toxic that's what's swaying me at min if read there not as big gains and diet needs to be spot on, I'm keep you posted
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how can you think that sarms are less toxic than steroids? sarms are hardly researched, long term effects are NOT known! you are a lab rat if you use this sh*t.

i would ALWAYS prefer a simple test cycle; its the male sexual hormone, studied for many years and gets used by thousands of people all over the world! side effects are well known and also how to treat them. i just cant believe how anyone could say that SARMS are less „toxic“ in any way. yes, maybe you shouldnt use tren if you are feared of side effects, thats clear, but what about testosterone??

beside the fact that you will habe better results with 250-500mg test/week over 6 months at least than with any sarm.
 
iamyourfather said:
how can you think that sarms are less toxic than steroids? sarms are hardly researched, long term effects are NOT known! you are a lab rat if you use this sh*t.

i would ALWAYS prefer a simple test cycle; its the male sexual hormone, studied for many years and gets used by thousands of people all over the world! side effects are well known and also how to treat them. i just cant believe how anyone could say that SARMS are less „toxic“ in any way. yes, maybe you shouldnt use tren if you are feared of side effects, thats clear, but what about testosterone??

beside the fact that you will habe better results with 250-500mg test/week over 6 months at least than with any sarm.
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Yikes, no need to charge in with the battering ram brother! Not everyone has access to test, and although I would disagree somewhat with the common belief that Sarms are safer than other things, I think they appeal to a lot of people due to the more relaxed on cycle/pct process.

I do agree more research needs to be done though. If I had access to test, I would certainly be more inclined to cycle it after a good amount of research and studying but hey, I work with what is available to me.
 
Dgordan said:
Yikes, no need to charge in with the battering ram brother! Not everyone has access to test, and although I would disagree somewhat with the common belief that Sarms are safer than other things, I think they appeal to a lot of people due to the more relaxed on cycle/pct process.

I do agree more research needs to be done though. If I had access to test, I would certainly be more inclined to cycle it after a good amount of research and studying but hey, I work with what is available to me.
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okay, the availability is a legit point, but everybody can order his stuff from a legit company. just a little research need to be done and you will find a good source, for sure.

even if i wouldnt have access to test, why should i use something probably extremely dangerous - nobody knows how this stuff affects our bodies, maybe its highly cancerous or some sh*t...i wouldnt take the risk for a some mild gains, i think everybody would agree that you wont put on an adequate amount of muscle. so you take the risk but dont even get much out of it.
 
iamyourfather said:
how can you think that sarms are less toxic than steroids? sarms are hardly researched, long term effects are NOT known! you are a lab rat if you use this sh*t.

i would ALWAYS prefer a simple test cycle; its the male sexual hormone, studied for many years and gets used by thousands of people all over the world! side effects are well known and also how to treat them. i just cant believe how anyone could say that SARMS are less „toxic“ in any way. yes, maybe you shouldnt use tren if you are feared of side effects, thats clear, but what about testosterone??

beside the fact that you will habe better results with 250-500mg test/week over 6 months at least than with any sarm.
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Sarms are less toxic than prohormones that what I'm refering to not steroids, I can easly get hold of gear it's not that I'm looking for an alternative if you read my post for Persnal reasons I can't pin anymore
 
SwoleNation said:
Just finished my last cycle a couple weeks ago, waiting until February to start next bulk cycle... Did Msten and was able to keep 9lbs. Thinking about running a sarm next; considering LGD or S23. Still doing my research... usually read every post mentioning sarms.

Thinking about doing 8 week cycle... 4 weeks LGD or S23 then 4 weeks using Gear from Muscle Gelz (Rad140 / SR9009). Basically a Bulk then Recomp stack.

We will see.
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S23 is a much jacked up version of S4 (Andarine) without the eye vision issues, others compare it to being on a "super" Winstrol cycle. Makes you dry/grainy, exhibits qualities that DHT derivative roids would I.e. Winstrol/Masteron.
Its stronger than RAD140. S23 is the harshest...it will shut you down, LGD not so much.
 
Daff said:
Sarms are less toxic than prohormones that what I'm refering to not steroids, I can easly get hold of gear it's not that I'm looking for an alternative if you read my post for Persnal reasons I can't pin anymore
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yes, if you speak about the „prohormones“ (which are acutally FULL roids; i. e. superdrol aka dimethazine, havoc/epistane, halodrol, etc.) then yes, the sarms are probably less toxic than this **** that got never produced for human consumption because the side effects were to harsh.

i dont know what your reasons are but i thought that if you can ingest research chemicals, you dont have any health reasons to switch from steroids. but yeah, im sure you have a good reason
 
iamyourfather said:
yes, if you speak about the „prohormones“ (which are acutally FULL roids; i. e. superdrol aka dimethazine, havoc/epistane, halodrol, etc.) then yes, the sarms are probably less toxic than this **** that got never produced for human consumption because the side effects were to harsh.

i dont know what your reasons are but i thought that if you can ingest research chemicals, you dont have any health reasons to switch from steroids. but yeah, im sure you have a good reason
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All input is always good bro and I do appricate people takeing time out for advice/opinions that's why I like this forum so much you get the the truth and I totally resect that and the expierence off other guys which is priceless, and I will do a bit more reserch before takeing anything. I do have a really good reason that's why I'm trying to find an alternative, I know nothing will compare to gear that's why I'm trying to find the best alternative. iv tightens up my diet iv uped my training I just need that extra push I'm not expecting miracles off anything thing else and I know nothing compared to hard work
 
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