Donald Trump running for president

thebigt said:
pledge of allegiance...blm....open borders....affirmative action...freedom of religion...full term abortions...that's a start.
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Pledge of allegiance. Are you talking about forcing kids to say it in schools? I'm against this the same way I'm against any propaganda, because that is what it is. You don't seem to like it when college kids pay money to learn something you don't agree with, but are ok with children being brainwashed. If somebody wants to recite the pledge, they should be free to do so, but we should all want them to do it of their own free will, not because they were forced to at the beginning of the school day where later on in social studies they learn about how "evil" Soviet or Nazi propaganda was.

BLM. From everything you have said on this subject, it shows you don't understand why they formed or what they stand for. Go research it with an open mind and then we can have a conversation.

Open borders do not exist and have not existed here for hundreds of years. That's a Fox/Trump term used to scare the easily manipulated.

Affirmative action. I think this is another term used by Trump/Fox to scare the easily manipulated. It's a concept that continually needs to evolve and be scrutinized so that it isn't exploited. I would vote for a review of current practices, but pretending we're all good now and it should be scrapped is naive.

Freedom of religion exists. Trump/Fox/Republicans use this term to try and get Christianity only, which isn't actually freedom of religion. You are free to practice whatever religion you want, so stop pretending you're not. I find it offensive when hypocrites constantly act horribly, but then claim to be Christians.

Full term abortions don't exist. Yet another boogeyman term that Trump/Fox/Republicans like to use to scare the easily manipulated. I'm for late term abortions for others and would vote for it even though I'm personally against it unless absolutely necessary for the health of the mother and if it was her choice.
 
thebigt said:
pledge of allegiance...blm....open borders....affirmative action...freedom of religion...full term abortions...that's a start.
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So I don't get accused of not answering a question by people that never actually answer questions, I do support BLM's right to free speech. Anything more specific, you'll have to be more specific.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Pledge of allegiance. Are you talking about forcing kids to say it in schools? I'm against this the same way I'm against any propaganda, because that is what it is. You don't seem to like it when college kids pay money to learn something you don't agree with, but are ok with children being brainwashed. If somebody wants to recite the pledge, they should be free to do so, but we should all want them to do it of their own free will, not because they were forced to at the beginning of the school day where later on in social studies they learn about how "evil" Soviet or Nazi propaganda was.

BLM. From everything you have said on this subject, it shows you don't understand why they formed or what they stand for. Go research it with an open mind and then we can have a conversation.

Open borders do not exist and have not existed here for hundreds of years. That's a Fox/Trump term used to scare the easily manipulated.

Affirmative action. I think this is another term used by Trump/Fox to scare the easily manipulated. It's a concept that continually needs to evolve and be scrutinized so that it isn't exploited. I would vote for a review of current practices, but pretending we're all good now and it should be scrapped is naive.

Freedom of religion exists. Trump/Fox/Republicans use this term to try and get Christianity only, which isn't actually freedom of religion. You are free to practice whatever religion you want, so stop pretending you're not. I find it offensive when hypocrites constantly act horribly, but then claim to be Christians.

Full term abortions don't exist. Yet another boogeyman term that Trump/Fox/Republicans like to use to scare the easily manipulated. I'm for late term abortions for others and would vote for it even though I'm personally against it unless absolutely necessary for the health of the mother and if it was her choice.
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wow...what a load of crap!!!
 
To fluff up a bit the heated debate, anyone missed that one?

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Aleksandar37 said:
Typical Republican response. No actual conversation, just random shouting. Hillary!

Careful or I'll ask your conservative Christian Republican view on hookers.
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conversation my arse...I asked for 'your' thoughts, instead I get talking points straight out of the democratic PC guidebook...what did you do copy word for word?
 
hairygrandpa said:
To fluff up a bit the heated debate, anyone missed that one?

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speaking of fluff..didn't you pick rigondeaux to beat lomachenko, lol lol lol lol...hahahaha hehehehe....geez!!!!:redeemerwhore:
 
thebigt said:
conversation my arse...I asked for 'your' thoughts, instead I get talking points straight out of the democratic PC guidebook...what did you do copy word for word?
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I'm not a Democrat and actually speak for myself. I see you're ignoring the hookers comment. I'm sure they were of age right?
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Open borders do not exist and have not existed here for hundreds of years. That's a Fox/Trump term used to scare the easily manipulated.
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I remember reading court testimony from border patrol claiming they were ordered by Washington to just let them through unchecked, and thats under oath. Wouldnt surprise me, it has its political advantages. Plus it makes it easier for the CIA to smuggle drugs into America, they need funding :)
 
Aleksandar37 said:
I'm not a Democrat and actually speak for myself. I see you're ignoring the hookers comment. I'm sure they were of age right?
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look for yourself...right out of the democrats PC guidebook!!!

sure you didn't copy it word for word?
 
ax1 said:
Wow...I know it didnt end the way we would have liked but someone was going to break someone else apart in just time anyways.
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lomo is in a league of his own at that weight class...Stephen a smith thinks he should move up in weight and fight mikey Garcia, got to admit that would be an intriguing matchup.
 
thebigt said:
lomo is in a league of his own at that weight class...Stephen a smith thinks he should move up in weight and fight mikey Garcia, got to admit that would be an intriguing matchup.
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Lomo truly is, its hard not to consider him #1 pound for pound.

You know I think highly of Garcia, but I definitely have Lomo on this one.

Its unfortunate Ringo fractured his hand in the 2nd round, but he just plain lost and if he had a 3rd hand he still would have lost, lol. One more props to Ringo to move up, last nights fight was entertaining.

Next interesting match is on Jan. 20, Spence vs. Peterson.

Wilder supposedly is back in agreement with Ortiz to fight after Ortiz has to cancel last time due to a failed drug test. Im really excited about this one whenever it happens.
 
ax1 said:
Lomo truly is, its hard not to consider him #1 pound for pound.

You know I think highly of Garcia, but I definitely have Lomo on this one.

Its unfortunate Ringo fractured his hand in the 2nd round, but he just plain lost and if he had a 3rd hand he still would have lost, lol. One more props to Ringo to move up, last nights fight was entertaining.

Next interesting match is on Jan. 20, Spence vs. Peterson.

Wilder supposedly is back in agreement with Ortiz to fight after Ortiz has to cancel last time due to a failed drug test. Im really excited about this one whenever it happens.
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hurt his hand my arse, he [rigo] just got tired of being humiliated!!!
spence will kill Peterson, hands down, no contest....I take wilder against Ortiz, I'm looking for wilder v Joshua!!!
 
thebigt said:
hurt his hand my arse, he [rigo] just got tired of being humiliated!!!
spence will kill Peterson, hands down, no contest....I take wilder against Ortiz, I'm looking for wilder v Joshua!!!
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Did you see the Lomo short biography before the fight where they showed him hopping up and down on his fists (hand stand but fists) upside down? That was sick!
 
ax1 said:
Did you see the Lomo short biography before the fight where they showed him hopping up and down on his fists (hand stand but fists) upside down? That was sick!
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flat then fists...the guy is a true specimen...the reporter guy they had on before the fight said he was imbedded at lomo's training camp-he said he had never seen anything like it!!!

3 out of last 4 opponents have QUIT...that is unheard of, it just doesn't happen...lomo doesn't defeat them, he humiliates them!!!
 
ax1 said:
Lomo truly is, its hard not to consider him #1 pound for pound.

You know I think highly of Garcia, but I definitely have Lomo on this one.

Its unfortunate Ringo fractured his hand in the 2nd round, but he just plain lost and if he had a 3rd hand he still would have lost, lol. One more props to Ringo to move up, last nights fight was entertaining.

Next interesting match is on Jan. 20, Spence vs. Peterson.

Wilder supposedly is back in agreement with Ortiz to fight after Ortiz has to cancel last time due to a failed drug test. Im really excited about this one whenever it happens.
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Despite the injury, I admit he was outclassed.
 
I'm amazed at the apparent stupidity of Robert Mueller....he is supposed to be running a impartial, unbiased investigation, and yet he has handpicked the most partial, biased people on the planet to run the investigation?

I don't understand the reasoning behind his choices?
 
thebigt said:
I'm amazed at the apparent stupidity of Robert Mueller....he is supposed to be running a impartial, unbiased investigation, and yet he has handpicked the most partial, biased people on the planet to run the investigation?

I don't understand the reasoning behind his choices?
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It amuses me that pundits have called this out months ago.
 
Misfit28 said:
Lmao. Wow. A cogent and well thought out response and that's all you can say?

I see your boy down in Bama lost :D
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What happened in Bama is a 50% victory for humanity! Unfortunatly people got duped into voting for the same thing, minus the molester part, lol
 
thebigt said:
I'm amazed at the apparent stupidity of Robert Mueller....he is supposed to be running a impartial, unbiased investigation, and yet he has handpicked the most partial, biased people on the planet to run the investigation?

I don't understand the reasoning behind his choices?
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So because they didn't support Trump, Mueller is "stupid"? He got rid of the guy who sent texts saying that Trump was an "idiot".

It would be hard for me to believe that there are many pro-Trump FBI agents. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

I have a hunch that if this was Hillary being investigated and the same thing was going on (i.e. perceived "bias"), you would be applauding it.
 
Misfit28 said:
So because they didn't support Trump, Mueller is "stupid"? He got rid of the guy who sent texts saying that Trump was an "idiot".

It would be hard for me to believe that there are many pro-Trump FBI agents. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

I have a hunch that if this was Hillary being investigated and the same thing was going on (i.e. perceived "bias"), you would be applauding it.
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Try not to understand why they're willing to choose a foreign country over their own. Mueller did the right thing, but in their eyes the only "right" choice would be to give everybody a pass even though more and more evidence continues to be uncovered.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Try not to understand why they're willing to choose a foreign country over their own. Mueller did the right thing, but in their eyes the only "right" choice would be to give everybody a pass even though more and more evidence continues to be uncovered.
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More evidence of conflicts of interest hy the investigators? There hasn't been any "more and more evidence" of anything else.

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The guy that was demoted that was texting his mistress that was also working on the case. Turns out she is the ones that approved the FISA warrants.

Another demoted DOJ official is married to a lady that worked for Fusion GPS.
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youngandfree said:
More evidence of conflicts of interest hy the investigators? There hasn't been any "more and more evidence" of anything else.
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So, not liking the current President is a conflict of interest? If that's the case, all law enforcement officers who don't agree politically should resign immediately.

From what I can tell, the vast majority of FBI agents supported Comey. That probably didn't do Trump any favors with the FBI.

Does that mean that all agents of the FBI are biased against Trump? If so, does that mean there should be no investigation?

If you think there should be no investigation, and you know SO much about the investigation, maybe you should present your compelling evidence to Mueller for deliberation.
 
Misfit28 said:
So, not liking the current President is a conflict of interest? If that's the case, all law enforcement officers who don't agree politically should resign immediately.

From what I can tell, the vast majority of FBI agents supported Comey. That probably didn't do Trump any favors with the FBI.

Does that mean that all agents of the FBI are biased against Trump? If so, does that mean there should be no investigation?

If you think there should be no investigation, and you know SO much about the investigation, maybe you should present your compelling evidence to Mueller for deliberation.
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We we are talking about the corrupt ones tasked with investigating Trump, not all of them.
Peter Strozk was the one that changed the wording of Comey's exoneration statement of Clinton, removing "grossly negligent", which would have been chargeable. And remember that exoneration came before the FBI even completed their email investigation.

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youngandfree said:
More evidence of conflicts of interest hy the investigators? There hasn't been any "more and more evidence" of anything else.

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The guy that was demoted that was texting his mistress that was also working on the case. Turns out she is the ones that approved the FISA warrants.

Another demoted DOJ official is married to a lady that worked for Fusion GPS.
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No, more evidence of Russia interfering with an election. Why are you so set on giving Russia a pass on this?
 
Misfit28 said:
Lmao. Wow. A cogent and well thought out response and that's all you can say?

I see your boy down in Bama lost :D
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well thought out????

it was copied straight from the democratic PC guidebook!!!

yup...it's a sad day for this country when a democrat gets elected!!!
 
youngandfree said:
What evidence has come out of this investigation? Why are you giving the corrupt Trump hating investigators a pass?
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Just because you think they're corrupt doesn't make it so. Your posts on this subject show without a doubt how little you understand of the investigation or prosecution process. You're getting upset over what the news is telling you to be upset over. Just today Rosenstein testified that there is no good reason to get rid of Mueller and he's a Trump pick!!!

What evidence?! We were all told by Trump and his team that there was absolutely no contact with Russian officials. Now it has been repeatedly oh except this one time, and then this other time, and hey yet another. If they would have been honest in the first place, there would be no need to start digging. This investigation isn't just about getting Trump; it's about letting an investigation run its course and to see if anybody in our government worked against us and to see what a foreign government might have done to us as well.
 
thebigt said:
well thought out????

it was copied straight from the democratic PC guidebook!!!

yup...it's a sad day for this country when a democrat gets elected!!!
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You're one to talk about having non-original things to say......

It would have been even more sad if a lying, racist molester had been elected....

You are very set on this two party system, aren't you? It kinda says a lot about you, honestly.
 
Misfit28 said:
You're one to talk about having non-original things to say......

It would have been even more sad if a lying, racist molester had been elected....

You are very set on this two party system, aren't you? It kinda says a lot about you, honestly.
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I think I have said quite a bit about myself in this thread... I work hard, pay my taxes, obey the laws and take really good care of my family....I think that says a lot about me-HONESTLY!!!


oh yeah...I stand for the pledge of allegiance.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
No, more evidence of Russia interfering with an election. Why are you so set on giving Russia a pass on this?
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Im still pizzed they didnt help Gayry win :(

It looks like they helped Mr. Hitlery T. win since nothing has really changed. Boo Putin.
 
thebigt said:
I think I have said quite a bit about myself in this thread... I work hard, pay my taxes, obey the laws and take really good care of my family....I think that says a lot about me-HONESTLY!!!


oh yeah...I stand for the pledge of allegiance.
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Funny, I do the same things. And I'm a liberal.

Are you saying that I don't do those things? Or are you just not good with nuance?
 
youngandfree said:
What evidence has come out of this investigation? Why are you giving the corrupt Trump hating investigators a pass?
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I think there was some hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in advertising by the Russians, but sure lets blame them because Hitlery's 1.2 Billion dollars in campaign funding was an unfair handicap for her.

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Misfit28 said:
Funny, I do the same things. And I'm a liberal.

Are you saying that I don't do those things? Or are you just not good with nuance?
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are you saying I have to be good at nuance to be a good person?
 
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