1-Andro/Epi-andro : 2nd cycle

[DGator86]

I ran a cycle last year to great success. I’m looking to run again. I ran both and had cycle support. Also did a PCT.

What additional products would you recommend to add to my cycle?

 

[Whisky]

A test base for sure bro (4-andro would make this a standard andro stack).

What are you looking to achieve etc?

 

[elo76]

What did you run?

 

[DGator86]

Stack:
OL Sup3r 1
330/330/330/330/330/330/330/330
Spread 3 times per day : 1 preworkout/lunch/dinner

OL Sup3r Epi
500/750/750/750/1000/1000/1000/750
2 preworkout/remainder with Sup3r-1

OL Sup3r Shred
0/0/ap/ap/ap/ap/0/0

Support:
Ar1macare-8/8/8/8/8/8/8/8
Cissus-2/2/2/2/2/2/2/2
Creatine - 5 g
Taurine - 500mg
Fish oil - 2 tbsp per day
BCAA's

 

[elo76]

If it was me, I would up the 4 to 440 and run the Epi at 1000-1250 the whole run if you are sticking with 1/Epi or go a different route all together.

Did you already purchase the 1/Epi? If not...I have multiple 1/4/Epi cycles under my belt. Got some decent gains, but felt kinda like poo the whole run each time. Brain fog, no libido, blah blah. If you are open to methyls, I'm currently running DMZ/Epi Andro and loving it. Not sure if I was feeling like poo during my andro run from the 1 or 4, but I feel awesome with just 1000 of epiandro and 45mg of DMZ. Waaaaaaaay better in terms of gains, alpha feeling, strength, etc. It's cheaper too .

 

[Whisky]

If it was me, I would up the 4 to 440 and run the Epi at 1000-1250 the whole run if you are sticking with 1/Epi or go a different route all together.

Did you already purchase the 1/Epi? If not...I have multiple 1/4/Epi cycles under my belt. Got some decent gains, but felt kinda like poo the whole run each time. Brain fog, no libido, blah blah. If you are open to methyls, I'm currently running DMZ/Epi Andro and loving it. Not sure if I was feeling like poo during my andro run from the 1 or 4, but I feel awesome with just 1000 of epiandro and 45mg of DMZ. Waaaaaaaay better in terms of gains, alpha feeling, strength, etc. It's cheaper too .

Running my first 1/4/epiandro at the moment and yeah the lack of libido is really staggering.

I agree re epi at 1000, I started at 700 and bumped to 1,000 pretty early. That said a number of forum members say they find 700 a sweet spot for them......

Just 1/epi would be dryer than a nuns **** I’d guess, the 4 would make things so much better......

 

[DGator86]

Like I said, I ran it earlier in the year and felt amazing. My performance in everything went through the roof.

 

[elo76]

Sorry...I meant up the 1 to 440.

 

[Whisky]

Like I said, I ran it earlier in the year and felt amazing. My performance in everything went through the roof.

Just run the same again then bro......if it ain’t broke.......

 

[DGator86]

Thinking about adding the 4.
I ran this as a recomp and it did very well. Just worried about fluffiness

 

[cstallion]

I am thinking of this same exact stack, so I’m curious what to expect. I’m on 200mg of Cyp a week for TRT, and would love to shred up with 1-andro and epi-andro.

Anybody ever done anything similar?

 

[SFreed]

I added Super DHEA. Felt amazeballs. Would do it again

 

[cstallion]

I added Super DHEA. Felt amazeballs. Would do it again

Is that 4-andro?

 

[DGator86]

Sup3r-DHEA:
3b-hydroxyandrost-5-ene-17-one (DHEA) 100mg

Cnidium Monnieri Extract (Standardized to 50% Osthole) 50mg

3b-hydroxypregn-5-en-20-one (Pregnenolone) 25mg

Acacetin (4'-Methoxy-5, 7-dihydroxyflavone) Derived from Damiana (Turnera diffusa) (Leaf) 25mg

4-andro:
4-androsterone

 

[dud3]

What do you mean by fluffiness?

 

[SwoleNation]

Want to do similar... But with Trest included.

 

[elo76]

Adding Trest wouldn't be a bad idea. Get some TD and caps for PWO. Should add nicely to your gains and would be a good introduction to the compound.

Running EPI up at 1000mg should help with keeping estro down, but still have some Exem or similar on hand.

 

[DGator86]

What do you mean by fluffiness?

The wetness of the compound

 

[DGator86]

Adding Trest wouldn't be a bad idea. Get some TD and caps for PWO. Should add nicely to your gains and would be a good introduction to the compound.

Running EPI up at 1000mg should help with keeping estro down, but still have some Exem or similar on hand.

Sounds good.

Yeah, I’m already on dr. prescribed anastrozole 1 mg per week.