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Looking to get huge. Critique my bulk.

Chados said:
Are you seriously saying deca is safer than test? You refer to people in the 60s as if they used deca for safety, you talk about overdosing test vs normal dose of deca?. Try overdose deca and see what happens. Why even compare the two? You need test to even cycle deca, test is the base of any cycle. You don't think there are other things going on than acne and bloat that's far more dangerous on deca? You will bloat if you go high on deca and if you don't have a clean diet, there's no need to go high on test and if you do you will need an ai. With deca you'll also need something like caber


My god man stop giving advice like this.
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I know one thing for sure that you don’t know what you talk about and you just copy paste what the majority says.
1. Deca is more anabolic and of course it’s going to put more mass than test .
2. If you have a clean diet deca it’s “clean”.
3. You will need caber if you do test and deca . Test and deca combo increase prolactin , deca only or deca dbol actually decrease prolactin.
4. Test it’s gonna bloat you one way or another it’s the way of the body to tell us that he don’t want so much test.
5. Deca it’s one of the most safest steroids (I don’t talk about Hpta ) do your self a favor and read steroids profile and also why deca it’s so popular.
6. Why overdose deca ?
7. Deca aromatizes only 20% you need 500-600 to have estrogens.
8. Deca is far more superior than test and that’s it’s a fact.

Test is a base only if you use it low 100-150 mg. On a cycle with test and deca you want the deca to do the work not the test! If you want the test to do the job run test only.

Tell me some sides that are more dangerous on deca than test

Too bothersome side effects
constant headaches, high BP, heart pounding and hematocrit at 1g+, despite donating blood.
This is for test and eq.
 
Kasper710 said:
I know one thing for sure that you don’t know what you talk about and you just copy paste what the majority says.
1. Deca is more anabolic and of course it’s going to put more mass than test .
2. If you have a clean diet deca it’s “clean”.
3. You will need caber if you do test and deca . Test and deca combo increase prolactin , deca only or deca dbol actually decrease prolactin.
4. Test it’s gonna bloat you one way or another it’s the way of the body to tell us that he don’t want so much test.
5. Deca it’s one of the most safest steroids (I don’t talk about Hpta ) do your self a favor and read steroids profile and also why deca it’s so popular.
6. Why overdose deca ?
7. Deca aromatizes only 20% you need 500-600 to have estrogens.
8. Deca is far more superior than test and that’s it’s a fact.

Test is a base only if you use it low 100-150 mg. On a cycle with test and deca you want the deca to do the work not the test! If you want the test to do the job run test only.

Tell me some sides that are more dangerous on deca than test

Too bothersome side effects
constant headaches, high BP, heart pounding and hematocrit at 1g+, despite donating blood.
This is for test and eq.
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What the hell are you talking about?

Halo is incredible anabolic and gives 0 size. You don't run deca without test. test bloats you if you run it too high. I have never said to run test high or deca high, I don't now where you got that from, i said dose test lower or equally with deca and don't run it at 600 your first time, it's ****ing stupid and you don't have to drag others with you just because you wanna be reckless. Test is safer than deca and not the other way around. Running deca only vs test only and test would definitely give deca a run for it's money.

So because I link something instead of typing it it's not true? Name one thing that's not true about what that site said.

Anadrol: Anabolic/Androgenic: 320/45
Anavar: Anabolic/Androgenic: 322-630/24 (Anabolic rating highly misleading in nature)
Deca-Durabolin: Anabolic/Androgenic: 125/37 (Strong androgen binding despite low rating)
Dianabol: Anabolic/Androgenic: 90-210/40-60
Equipoise: Anabolic/Androgenic: 100/50
Halotestin: Anabolic/Androgenic: 1,900/850 (Androgenic activity zero despite high rating)
Masteron: Anabolic/Androgenic: 62/25

Primobolan: Anabolic/Androgenic: 88/44-57
Testosterone: Anabolic/Androgenic: 100/100 (All forms 100/100)
Trenbolone: Anabolic/Androgenic: 500/500
Winstrol: Anabolic/Androgenic: 320/30

So besides the ratios which you clearly don't understand I'm gonna break it down further.

Androgens largely regulate growth and play a key role revolving around stored adipose tissue. In simple terms the greater androgenic presence the greater growth in muscular structure there will be; this shouldn’t be too surprising, after all, for the anabolic steroid user the primary hormone of growth is testosterone. As eluded to, androgens also affect the manner in-which body-fat is stored; men typically have less body-fat than women and as such much of this is due to the higher androgenic nature of the male species as androgens have been shown to inhibit fat accumulation and storage.

At first glance you might ask what the difference is between anabolic and androgenic and the short answer is quite a bit. The anabolic process aids in enhancing the cells that exist, yes, it can enhance them in-terms of actual growth in size but will have a larger role on increasing strength and play a larger role in conditioning. Further, steroids that are primarily anabolic will not convert to estrogen as estrogen is a precursor to androgenic hormones.

Yes I did copy this cause its way too much to explain. However as you can see the androgenic is more powerful in growth than anabolic. The so calls ratios you refer to doesn't mean anything, what matters is how much each compound binds to the receptors. That's why halo doesn't add any size even though it has a very high anabolic and androgenic rating.


By the way I love how you say I don't know anything and that I just say what the (majority says) like that's something bad. No let's listen to you and the other two people instead.
 
Wake up!
I’m not here from yesterday I know my **** . Run deca and test equal 500-500 you’re going to have side effects . Test lower is good but only 50-150mg.
Yeah the majority is bad I’m not a sheep to follow a wave and just repeat what they say .
I have test this and it work and anybody who test it probably works. So better try yourself and have an opinion. If you haven’t try it you can simply disagree and say it’s bad idea for that reasons. You are here doing like a maniac and you try to prove that it don’t work and you really don’t know if it works or no.
I have named on what are you false I also can post researches but not for you because I’m bored if the topic starter is really interested and he haves doubts I can post.
You must be like Dylan Gemeli he know it all he have use it all and he still 170 pounds.
Me and the other two people probably we know what we talk about because we have test it and works ! We are not here to make people take bad decisions that are bad we try to help . And the topic starter to have the best results without side effects.
 
Kasper710 said:
Wake up!
I’m not here from yesterday I know my **** . Run deca and test equal 500-500 you’re going to have side effects . Test lower is good but only 50-150mg.
Yeah the majority is bad I’m not a sheep to follow a wave and just repeat what they say .
I have test this and it work and anybody who test it probably works. So better try yourself and have an opinion. If you haven’t try it you can simply disagree and say it’s bad idea for that reasons. You are here doing like a maniac and you try to prove that it don’t work and you really don’t know if it works or no.
I have named on what are you false I also can post researches but not for you because I’m bored if the topic starter is really interested and he haves doubts I can post.
You must be like Dylan Gemeli he know it all he have use it all and he still 170 pounds.
Me and the other two people probably we know what we talk about because we have test it and works ! We are not here to make people take bad decisions that are bad we try to help . And the topic starter to have the best results without side effects.
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When did I say 500/500 you misquote me all the time instead of answering everything i just said. You have no argument.. What the hell does size have to do with this?
 
Chados said:
When did I say 500/500 you misquote me and I just proved you wrong. What the hell does size have to do with this?
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I’m too tired to prove you I’m right really I just prove it earlier. Anyway you can do whatever you want and pin whatever shiit you want in your body and the topic starter too I’m talking about facts and personal experience.
I’m not going to read what I’ve searched for years and test it on me. Also I’m not your teacher a quick research it can show you that deca is far more superior than test in terms of size and side effects.

You have read all the facts from me and from the sources you post . I tell you how this **** works and you can’t fking understand .
 
Kasper710 said:
I’m too tired to prove you I’m right really I just prove it earlier. Anyway you can do whatever you want and pin whatever shiit you want in your body and the topic starter too I’m talking about facts and personal experience.
I’m not going to read what I’ve searched for years and test it on me. Also I’m not your teacher a quick research it can show you that deca is far more superior than test in terms of size and side effects.

You have read all the facts from me and from the sources you post . I tell you how this **** works and you can’t fking understand .
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Why so mad? You havent proven anything, You assume I don't have experience and you do, you assume the majority is wrong because you say so. I just told you why you were wrong about anabolic vs androgenic as an example. You haven't replied to anything ive said. it's all about personal experience?, if you are experienced, first of all you should know everyone is different. The argument that deca is stronger than test I'm not sure why you started with and it doesn't make any sense. Everything you've said has been you putting words in to my mouth. You really have no idea what you're saying and you're going out of topic. I told you that 600 is stupid to recommend and I have no idea where exactly you're gonna find a study that proves differently. i aldo have no idea why you brought up everything else that you did, which was not only wrong but not something that I ever stated.

This whole argument makes me feel I'm talking to a child that just wants to argue and completly ignore what the other person is saying. After that you tell me well you're probably a small guy, and then Finnish off with the classic, I'm too tired to prove you wrong. You don't even know why deca gives the size that it does. If you have experience then I'm shocked by how little you actually know. Why dont you do what you do best and show people how to be insecure by insulting someone when you don't have any arguments.

When you and the two other guys? Who exactly are you talking about? You and?..
 
Yeah and by the way dbol aromatize more than any other steroid probably except maybe ment. I don't know what to make out of your experience, I got nothing against you personally but stop giving people advice.
 
I'm so confused on all The advice every one gives. Don't do this, take low test, blah blah blah, my first injectable cycle of test I gained 20 lbs with a inch on my waist. My first test eq at 500 each was 22 lbs. Obviously I don't keep everything but it worked out great. I've been off for a few years but what works works. I'm starting to feel like everbody Today is giving YouTube advice
 
BigVis said:
How tall are you?
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Im 5'10

Smont said:
I'm so confused on all The advice every one gives. Don't do this, take low test, blah blah blah, my first injectable cycle of test I gained 20 lbs with a inch on my waist. My first test eq at 500 each was 22 lbs. Obviously I don't keep everything but it worked out great. I've been off for a few years but what works works. I'm starting to feel like everbody Today is giving YouTube advice
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Lol this is what I'm saying, there's no concrete way to do something in bodybuilding.
 
But alright guys this IS what I'm going to run.

Test cyp 125mg/week forever.
NPP 600mg/week 1-8
Sdrol 20mg/day week 1-3
Adex .5 day of injection
Prami on hand

Going to finish this cycle, get bloods done, take a month off then blast npp again for 8 weeks.
 
Looks good to me.
 
Just make sure to pin the NPP at least M W F. Some may disagree, but the more frequent the injections, the more stable the blood levels, the less sides.
 
^yip, Ive done 2ml/200mg NPP M-W-F (600 total) plus added my cyp to M-F pins, worked a fawkin treat.
 
jakz said:
Just make sure to pin the NPP at least M W F. Some may disagree, but the more frequent the injections, the more stable the blood levels, the less sides.
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Yeah even just from being on trt I had spaced it to every 5 days and I got bacne like a mfer. I believe in stable blood levels lol
 
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