FIRST CYCLE...TEST ENANTHATE- CANT FEEL ANYTHING...

hairygrandpa said:
That is awful. Really. Now that you are on test, how does your training look? diet?
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This time I am training 3 times per Week, and I am not missing any training sessions .I am sticking to my program.

I get 100 Grams protein every day, around 2000 Calories, carbohydrates I dont know. .
 
Not for nothing but stamina rx gave me way harder erections than cialis or Viagra. You might give it a try.
 
You don't take arimidex to boost testosteron , go to a doctor and see if something is wrong. If it's not wrong than it's mental problems. You can't just read **** on the internet and try everything people recommend that's considered medicin.
 
Look into getting stem cell injections in your dick. VEGF May create new or healthier vascularity and aid in stronger erections.
 
belgorod said:
This time I am training 3 times per Week, and I am not missing any training sessions .I am sticking to my program.

I get 100 Grams protein every day, around 2000 Calories, carbohydrates I dont know. .
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Are you trying to put on weight? If so you should really near double those numbers and train at least 4-5 days a week in my opinion. You're putting this testosterone into your body but it sounds like you're wasting it by not training or dieting harder. I'm no expert and don't mean to sound harsh but I really think you need to do more research before continuing to waste your money on more test. I would PCT, study a ton, and then after some time off try again with a better understanding and more adequate plan. Just my .02 cents
 
Hi. Today I supposed to do the blood test, but unfortunately I could not . Because clinic was closed. ( Because of national holiday )

Anyway, tomorrow morning I am planning to do it.

The thing is, I have received my last testostorone injection at Sunday at 18.00. (5 November ) So is this ok ? Can they easily detect elevated T levels after 48 hours of last injection?

A person told me it would be better if I do it after 24 hours from last injection so I am confused. Unfortunately I cant do it, because today it was closed. My next injection will be at Wednesday. So should I wait for Wednesday, and than I should make a blood test at Thursday ? Or can I just go tomorrow morning ?
 
belgorod said:
Hi. Today I supposed to do the blood test, but unfortunately I could not . Because clinic was closed. ( Because of national holiday )

Anyway, tomorrow morning I am planning to do it.

The thing is, I have received my last testostorone injection at Sunday at 18.00. (5 November ) So is this ok ? Can they easily detect elevated T levels after 48 hours of last injection?

A person told me it would be better if I do it after 24 hours from last injection so I am confused. Unfortunately I cant do it, because today it was closed. My next injection will be at Wednesday. So should I wait for Wednesday, and than I should make a blood test at Thursday ? Or can I just go tomorrow morning ?
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Just go tomorrow morning. Plenty of Half Lift calculators out there than can give you a ball park of where you should be, plus if it it bunk then you will know for sure because it will be normal or low. You have been on over a month so taking a shot at any point should tell us if elevated. If not by much then could be under dosed gear but if you got it from a pharma I really doubt it.
 
First time i ever did test e it took a few weeks before i really noticed anything, the next pin cycle after that i stacked lol. Gl with it. I have stopped pinning a while back and stick to oral anabolics now. Whenever my last cycle i ended up with what i think are some cists on my chest, been there ever since. They arent huge and they are mostly covered by chest hair, **** happens.
 
Test will most likely be noticeable, I can swear I feel even test e the first day. The gains however will arrive at week 3-5.
 
Today morning they have taken the blood from me.

They will look at Estradiol and Total Testostorone. Unfortunately they are slow, so the results will be came at Friday.

And I dont think my injections are underdosed.

So far I have received 8 shots, since 14 October. So this means from 14 October to 7 November , a total of 2000 Mg Test E received.

Anyway , we will understand everything this Friday. If the gear is bunk, than it is really bad, it means I have wasted my time and money.
 
Wait so 4 weeks of test e. Let me hit you with something here. 4th week Is probably when you'll start noticing. The shape youre in before starting the cycle will decide how much youll notice after a cycle. If you have no definition to begin with test e might give you that, but it's not gonna blow your mind. I'm not saying this is the case but it's quite important to know what to expect. People often believe steroids are miracle stuff. How's your weight ? To me that's what I'm looking at first. I gain a ton of weight on everything and even if my definition hasn't changed and I've put on weight drastically I know why.
 
Now I weight 170 Lbs.

Also, you said 4th week, so I should start to feel effects at the beginning of 4 th week , or end? Because I am already in 4th week now. 1 week later, 4th week will finish. And I still cant feel.
 
belgorod said:
Now I weight 170 Lbs.

Also, you said 4th week, so I should start to feel effects at the beginning of 4 th week , or end? Because I am already in 4th week now. 1 week later, 4th week will finish. And I still cant feel.
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You're don't have to feel like superman on test. Some people claim they get all hyper (placebo?) Personally I notice a faster recovery .. that's the major thing to me that I never get burned out no matter how hard I train. I gain weight drastically too but that's individual. What was your weight before? Have you had a hard time gaining weight previously? How do you compare your weight gain now to without aas? I mean I seriously gain 20 pounds on every cycle easily. You have what? 8 weeks left on your first cycle with your body being introduced to a new compound.. you should have no problem gaining 20 lbs or more. The serious effects to me starts at week 6-8 and then it slows down, but these 3 weeks 6,7,8 I really start to pack on some serious definition.

Hang in there bud .. and remember this, if you don't have abs before a cycle you're not likely to have that much after the cycle either. You can however gain a ton of size
 
You jumped to gear after only working out so little? Wow. It's not my place to judge so I will just wish you luck and hope you have a good PCT protocol lined up.
 
belgorod said:
Hi everyone. This is my first cycle.

I have started to using Testostorone Enanthate.

I have bought it from pharmacy in Turkey, it is completely legal there, but my Test E is "Iran" Brand. ( Aburaihan labs )

Anyway,

My first injection was at 14 th of October. For frontloading, I have used 500 Mg.

Next injection was at 18 October, this time I used 250 Mg.

So from now on, I will inject 250 Mg every 2 or 3 days. So 500 Mg / Week.

Now, I still cant feel the effects. Yes, I have read that this is long Ester, but I have read that, after 36 hours from the first injection, Serum Test Levels increase they say.

I cant feel any improvements in strength, mood, erection quality etc. Yes, I dont expect to put on muscle so quickly, but still I cant feel anything.

By the way, at 14 th October, I also started to use 12.5 Mg aromasin every day. But one guy told me this is too much and recommended me to use 12.5 Mg EOD.

I am 162 Lbs and I guess I am minimum %15 BF, maybe even %18.
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I have cycled and started TRT several months ago after years of having low test, and I could tell a difference (subtle, but definitive) within the first week of TRT at 150mg (now 170mg) / week.


If your test is real I'm surprised you haven't noticed ANYTHING in terms of sex drive, pump, some strength, etc.
 
Hello. Finally I today I got my results, ( As I told you before, I got my last injection at 5 Th of November, and the blood has taken at 7 Th November )

Also, I stopped taking Aromasin at 29 October completely. In order to understand my estradiol levels without Aromasin. So now I think I definately need to use it, because Estradiol seems very high, anyway results;

Testostorone : 1345 Ng / Dl - ( Referance Range : 249 Ng / Dl to 836 Ng / Dl )

Estradiol : 140.2 Pg / Ml - ( Referance Range : 7.63 Pg / Ml to 42.6 Pg / Ml )
 
Looks good, test is where it should be, up. 25mg aromasin, then 12,5mg eod should do the trick. Sadly you did not test for free test.
 
So , first day I should use 25 Mg Aromasin, and than 12.5 Mg Eod ?

By the way, I started my cycle at 14 Th of October, and Until 29 th of October, I took 12.5 Mg Aromasin Eod. ( First 3 days, I took 25 Mg Eod , but they told me it is high, so I reduced it to 12.5 Mg Eod by 18 Th of October ) , but , during that time, I still could not feel the effects either. Still, 29 th October is only 2 weeks from 14 Th of October, maybe it was too early. I dont know.
 
belgorod said:
So , first day I should use 25 Mg Aromasin, and than 12.5 Mg Eod ?

By the way, I started my cycle at 14 Th of October, and Until 29 th of October, I took 12.5 Mg Aromasin Eod. ( First 3 days, I took 25 Mg Eod , but they told me it is high, so I reduced it to 12.5 Mg Eod by 18 Th of October ) , but , during that time, I still could not feel the effects either. Still, 29 th October is only 2 weeks from 14 Th of October, maybe it was too early. I dont know.
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Yes.

You couldn't feel nothing because you killed it first, then, when it got up slowly, you killed it again. Try what I wrote and wait 2 weeks.
 
No I am sure we injected 500 Mg.

Even more.

Because first injection was 500 Mg.

So from 14 th October to 5 Th November I have received total of 7 shots. First shot is 500 Mg, the rest is 250 Mg, so I have received total of 2000 Mg testostorone.

14 Th October to 5 Th november is approximately 3 weeks. 2000 : 3 = 666 Mg actually.

However, in some forums, I have read that, Iran Test E dosage is lower compared to other Testostorone compounds. Maybe this is because of that.

So maybe, in 1 Ml there is no 250 Mg, only 150 Mg or something like that.
 
belgorod said:
No I am sure we injected 500 Mg.

Even more.

Because first injection was 500 Mg.

So from 14 th October to 5 Th November I have received total of 7 shots. First shot is 500 Mg, the rest is 250 Mg, so I have received total of 2000 Mg testostorone.

14 Th October to 5 Th november is approximately 3 weeks. 2000 : 3 = 666 Mg actually.

However, in some forums, I have read that, Iran Test E dosage is lower compared to other Testostorone compounds. Maybe this is because of that.

So maybe, in 1 Ml there is no 250 Mg, only 150 Mg or something like that.
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Yep, what Nac said, underdosed. On the other hand, part of it converted to estrogen. For your erection problem it should help at that dosage anyway!
My libido is best around 200-250mg/w.
 
My erection is good but still not perfect. There is no difference. I mean before steroid cycle, it was exactly the same. So this is really a huge disappointment to me...
 
belgorod said:
My erection is good but still not perfect. There is no difference. I mean before steroid cycle, it was exactly the same. So this is really a huge disappointment to me...
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Wait a bit longer. Did you looked into Melanotan 2 ? Can you source it?
 
hairygrandpa said:
Wait a bit longer. Did you looked into Melanotan 2 ? Can you source it?
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I checked it out but I think would be expensive to buy in my country.

Also, I think my erection problem is not because of hormone levels, but rather, due to some structural problems in my penis. Maybe veins are small ? Or they are blocked ? Something like this.
 
I am really very sad...Really...Maybe I am non responder to weight training and steroids.

Still there is no difference in my body. Despite the fact that my T levels are 3 times higher, I could not add any muscle mass. I really cant believe it.

I must have very very very bad genes. Non responder type. What kind of muscle do I have? Really I feel very bad...
 
belgorod said:
I am really very sad...Really...Maybe I am non responder to weight training and steroids.

Still there is no difference in my body. Despite the fact that my T levels are 3 times higher, I could not add any muscle mass. I really cant believe it.

I must have very very very bad genes. Non responder type. What kind of muscle do I have? Really I feel very bad...
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LOL. Muscles need food and grow slowly. With a "fertilizer" your muscles may grow quicker -but NOT noticeably in a month.
You just discovered that steroids are not magic, congratulations!
 
belgorod said:
I am really very sad...Really...Maybe I am non responder to weight training and steroids.

Still there is no difference in my body. Despite the fact that my T levels are 3 times higher, I could not add any muscle mass. I really cant believe it.

I must have very very very bad genes. Non responder type. What kind of muscle do I have? Really I feel very bad...
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See my signature?

Life is fair it's your expectations that aren't.
 
Chados said:
I think your overestimating the effects. I don't feel much but I see much. Do you see anything?
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With underdosed test and killed estrogen for the first 2 weeks, he can't see anything in a month -even when his diet and training is on point.
We all know it needs time and hard work, regardless what roid you take.
After about 8 weeks, if everything is optimal, he may look fuller due to enhanced glycogen retention -after that, he may gain some pounds of muscles.
Its a marathon, not a sprint.
 
I seriously doubt his diet and training are on point. He admitted earlier that he's never gone to the gym consistently for more than 2-3 months at a time.
 
hairygrandpa said:
LOL. Muscles need food and grow slowly. With a "fertilizer" your muscles may grow quicker -but NOT noticeably in a month.
You just discovered that steroids are not magic, congratulations!
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Ok I know it is not magic, but there is NO DIFFERENCE at all. NOTHING. Thats why I feel very bad now.

I am curious about one thing, is it possible that they can make a fake steroids, that which show good results in blood analysis, but still fake ? Is it possible?
 
belgorod said:
Ok I know it is not magic, but there is NO DIFFERENCE at all. NOTHING. Thats why I feel very bad now.

I am curious about one thing, is it possible that they can make a fake steroids, that which show good results in blood analysis, but still fake ? Is it possible?
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No.
 
Chados said:
Wait so 4 weeks of test e. Let me hit you with something here. 4th week Is probably when you'll start noticing. The shape youre in before starting the cycle will decide how much youll notice after a cycle. If you have no definition to begin with test e might give you that, but it's not gonna blow your mind. I'm not saying this is the case but it's quite important to know what to expect. People often believe steroids are miracle stuff. How's your weight ? To me that's what I'm looking at first. I gain a ton of weight on everything and even if my definition hasn't changed and I've put on weight drastically I know why.
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I agree.
Most people who get on test e with only a little bit of real training under there belt, don't get much gains.
That's why back in the day you had to pay your dues
Squat 400lbs
Bench 315 lbs
Before anybody would even talk to you about GEAR.
If you have been putting in work.
Eating right
Reading
Making gains naturally
THEN shoot .5g a week of test e........BOOM!!!! No question marks, you'll know. You'll get results
Week 5 is actually when most people REALLY feel test e.
But if you don't have lots of diet training to compare it too its hard to tell.
 
hairygrandpa said:
With underdosed test and killed estrogen for the first 2 weeks, he can't see anything in a month -even when his diet and training is on point.
We all know it needs time and hard work, regardless what roid you take.
After about 8 weeks, if everything is optimal, he may look fuller due to enhanced glycogen retention -after that, he may gain some pounds of muscles.
Its a marathon, not a sprint.
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No I get that just saying that people with no experience seems to believe they will get magic results without actually understanding how much it takes to get to certain points. I respond extremly well on everything I've tested and I've always been on low body fat. i will see a difference with 5 lbs while another guy won't see anything before maybe 10. If there's anything I am sure about its that what you look like before the cycle will absolutely decide what the results might be.

A smaller guy will also get more noticeable results with less gains because of the % of his bodyweight will increase much more
 
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