Donald Trump running for president

[CJNator]

Ok so your saying if people condemn the state, dont vote for it and want to destroy and replace it from the inside out, your claiming the state still represents them?

Well yea, no doing anything is the same as doing something. If you see a robbery going on and you do nothing to stop it or alert the authorities then it’s your fault if the victim gets killed or doesn’t get justice. Wanting something to happen and doing something about are two different things, one requires sacrifice and the other doesn’t.

Growing the private sector doesn’t help nor does growing the public sector. It’s about quality not quantity. We need quality people in the government not just anyone that can do a job. Most people want change but do nothing about it, voting just condones the very system that is harming society. We need people that want the US to succeed without any other agenda then that.

Most people join the public sector for private reasons(economic success, power, personal stability, etc...) and this is a issue, people need to start living for something greater then themselves.

 

[ax1]

Well yea, no doing anything is the same as doing something. If you see a robbery going on and you do nothing to stop it or alert the authorities then it’s your fault if the victim gets killed or doesn’t get justice. Wanting something to happen and doing something about are two different things, one requires sacrifice and the other doesn’t.

Growing the private sector doesn’t help nor does growing the public sector. It’s about quality not quantity. We need quality people in the government not just anyone that can do a job. Most people want change but do nothing about it, voting just condones the very system that is harming society. We need people that want the US to succeed without any other agenda then that.

Most people join the public sector for private reasons(economic success, power, personal stability, etc...) and this is a issue, people need to start living for something greater then themselves.

I feel like your making this far more complicated than it needs to be. I say Fuq the US government, they dont represent me and I dont represent them. They are war mongering shytholes who bomb innocent people in villages over oil or undemocratic regime changes and pretend to wonder why people want to terrorize us...but you think I dont realize the state represents me when Im not the one who put them in power and support their genocidal policies. Is that correct? How do those love bombs off those US drones of compassion represent me? Do you represent the death and destruction of over a million people this past decade from these war mongering genocidalists led by the state in power? Do you want your name on those policies? And what am I supposed to do, why do you think its all that my fault and what realistically do you really think is the way I can change my representation? What is your solution to my problem?
What authority can I alert when I witness the US governments breach in oath of office, treason and other various humanitarian crimes thats actually going to do anything about it and also doesnt partake in it?

Do you think the German Jews just didnt realize Adolf Hitler and the Nazi's represented them because Jews either did nothing or not enough to do anything about it?

 

[CJNator]

I feel like your making this far more complicated than it needs to be. I say Fuq the US government, they dont represent me and I dont represent them. They are war mongering shytholes who bomb innocent people in villages over oil or undemocratic regime changes and pretend to wonder why people want to terrorize us...but you think I dont realize the state represents me when Im not the one who put them in power and support their genocidal policies. Is that correct? How do those love bombs off those US drones of compassion represent me? Do you represent the death and destruction of over a million people this past decade from these war mongering genocidalists led by the state in power? Do you want your name on those policies? And what am I supposed to do, why do you think its all that my fault and what realistically do you really think is the way I can change my representation? What is your solution to my problem?
What authority can I alert when I witness the US governments breach in oath of office, treason and other various humanitarian crimes thats actually going to do anything about it and also doesnt partake in it?

Do you think the German Jews just didnt realize Adolf Hitler and the Nazi's represented them because Jews either did nothing or not enough to do anything about it?

It’s more complicated then how you put it yet not complicated at all. There are nations, big and small. There are winners and losers. There are alliances and enemies.

They represent anyone not willing to change they system and everyone condoning it. It goes both ways, you can’t just turn your head away and speak against the normalcy of government yet while condoning the type of governing that distorts the normalcy of government. Thats showing you don’t know the actual issue, only that you know of the issue and the possibility of a rabbit whole within these issues.

If I “why”ed you to death for a issue you talk about it will all stem down to bureaucrats, voters, or lobbyists.

You’re asking me all these questions but the only question you should ask to yourself is what do you stand for? I stand for my nation, state, and god because that’s all I have so I’d rather see it improved then have it fall the the hands of people with agendas that go against it. This requires better governance and ideas of better governance are preached whenever I can.

No it’s not just the Jews fault, it obviously was the nations fault. I’m saying all parties are equally at fault.

There are only rebels and loyalists, the only two sides that exist, chaos and order.

Non of this is complicated yet there’s more then you talk about(and that I talk about on here), the value of your words are more important then anything. If it sounds like you stand for nothing then no one will listen.

 

[Aleksandar37]

Whether people like to realize it or not the state is a representation of the people. The state is a organism. I’m acknowledging the first statement since this seems off topic.

The state is supposed to be a representative of the people. It no longer is and hasn't been for some time now, at least here in the US.

 

[ax1]

It’s more complicated then how you put it yet not complicated at all. There are nations, big and small. There are winners and losers. There are alliances and enemies.

No it’s not just the Jews fault, it obviously was the nations fault. I’m saying all parties are equally at fault.

There are only rebels and loyalists, the only two sides that exist, chaos and order.

Non of this is complicated yet there’s more then you talk about(and that I talk about on here), the value of your words are more important then anything. If it sounds like you stand for nothing then no one will listen.

"Whether people like to realize it or not the state is a representation of the people. "

What you are saying with this statement right here is extraordinarily simple....the German Jews are represented by Adolf Hitler and the Nazi's, whether they realize it or not, thats who represents them because the Nazi's are the state.

"There are only rebels and loyalists, the only two sides that exist, chaos and order."

So the Hitler, the Nazi's and their supporters are "order" supported by loyalists, and the German Jews are just rebels and on the side of chaos who are really represented by the state, which happen to be the Nazi's and every one of the Jews orderly thrown in the oven by the Nazi's loyalists just didnt realize they are really represented by the Nazi's.

Based on your statements, the Nazi's are the winners/alliances and the Jews or the losers/enemies, its just yin and yang.

The more I think, question and talk about your claims and put it my way the more I am confusing myself and everybody and over-complicating things, amirite?

 

[ax1]

The state is supposed to be a representative of the people. It no longer is and hasn't been for some time now, at least here in the US.

Maybe you just no longer realize that they still do?

 

[CJNator]

The state is supposed to be a representative of the people. It no longer is and hasn't been for some time now, at least here in the US.

Well that’s a perspective that I understand but you must understand that wants are derived by actions not thought. The government does represent the people because of lack of action to get what they want.

 

[ax1]

You’re asking me all these questions but the only question you should ask to yourself is what do you stand for?

I am the state, and nobody represents me unless I allow them too.

 

[CJNator]

"Whether people like to realize it or not the state is a representation of the people. "

What you are saying with this statement right here is extraordinarily simple....the German Jews are represented by Adolf Hitler and the Nazi's, whether they realize it or not, thats who represents them because the Nazi's are the state.

"There are only rebels and loyalists, the only two sides that exist, chaos and order."

So the Hitler, the Nazi's and their supporters are "order" supported by loyalists, and the German Jews are just rebels and on the side of chaos who are really represented by the state, which happen to be the Nazi's and every one of the Jews orderly thrown in the oven by the Nazi's loyalists just didnt realize they are really represented by the Nazi's.

Based on your statements, the Nazi's are the winners/alliances and the Jews or the losers/enemies, its just yin and yang.

The more I think, question and talk about your claims and put it my way the more I am confusing myself and everybody and over-complicating things, amirite?

Well if we’re talking facts and strictly Germany for some reason then here. The Jews were mostly polish not German so the Jews had little to no influence in government. Invalid Link Removed

No the the axis represented one side and the allies where the other. Totalitarianism vs liberal democracy.

Not sure about your infatuation with Hitler, maybe you forgot about Mussolini and Hideki Tojo(Japan). Also there were and are many fascist movements Invalid Link Removed not all movements are the same.

Hitler and Nazism like I’ve mentioned focused on biological racism that focuses on the aryanism of “his race”. Non of this is complicated if you look into it and open your mind to free yourself from bias.

 

[ax1]

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No the the axis represented one side and the allies where the other. Totalitarianism vs liberal democracy.

Not sure about your infatuation with Hitler, maybe you forgot about Mussolini and Hideki Tojo(Japan). Also there were and are many fascist movements Invalid Link Removed not all movements are the same.

Hitler and Nazism like I’ve mentioned focused on biological racism that focuses on the aryanism of “his race”. Non of this is complicated if you look into it and open your mind to free yourself from bias.

I specifying the Jews living there in Germany under that system. I used Hitler just as 1 example how government doesnt represent the people, even though you think the Jews are represented by their state which happen to be the Nazi's. According to your statements the Jews just didnt realize the Nazi's represent them. All the other fascist movements have nothing to do with anything regarding my point.

Are you saying Germany vs. Russia was Totalitarian vs Liberal Democracy?

Free from bias? No disrespect but you do come across as a total big government state power collectivist, I mean everyone is biased in one way or another.

 

[jswain34]

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[CJNator]

I specifying the Jews living there in Germany under that system. I used Hitler just as 1 example how government doesnt represent the people, even though you think the Jews are represented by their state which happen to be the Nazi's. According to your statements the Jews just didnt realize the Nazi's represent them. All the other fascist movements have nothing to do with anything regarding my point.

Are you saying Germany vs. Russia was Totalitarian vs Liberal Democracy?

Free from bias? No disrespect but you do come across as a total big government state power collectivist, I mean everyone is biased in one way or another.

Actually I was thinking of the Cold War lol and Hitler was supported my a overwhelmingly majority of Germany supported Hitler.

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If you understand fascism then you’ll understand how it does pertain to any fascist movements. It’s all about national consciousness.

Also I believe in what is necessary and right now I believe we need fascism, if we do transition to fascism and the state get out of control then I’ll believe in liberalism. I care about the natural order of things not ideas.

 

[thebigt]

It's not Russia lol. You have city, state, and several federal agencies looking into this and they don't necessarily all get along and all of them require court orders while I'm sure MGM is trying to limit the amount of damage they get pulled into. Eyewitness accounts alone are going to take up so many resources since it was already Vegas and now you have the entire concert and everybody who was in the hotel that day.

I think the preservation of evidence ruling was for that exact reason, fear that mgm would destroy evidence that they might consider incriminating...again, I don't understand why the fbi is not in possession of the security tapes and any other evidence concerning this case...aren't there chain of custody issues involved here?

in a case where security cameras from a building not involved in a crime picks up the crime on video the police can subpoena the tapes, so there is precedence for the fbi to be in possession of mgm's tapes, as well as all other evidence.

 

[Aleksandar37]

I think the preservation of evidence ruling was for that exact reason, fear that mgm would destroy evidence that they might consider incriminating...again, I don't understand why the fbi is not in possession of the security tapes and any other evidence concerning this case...aren't there chain of custody issues involved here?

in a case where security cameras from a building not involved in a crime picks up the crime on video the police can subpoena the tapes, so there is precedence for the fbi to be in possession of mgm's tapes, as well as all other evidence.

Why the FBI? I thought the local sheriff was running this show. This isn't really FBI's thing unless they do find a link to a bigger group that crosses state lines. FBI may be there as support, but did you see anywhere that they took the case over?

 

[ax1]

Actually I was thinking of the Cold War lol and Hitler was supported my a overwhelmingly majority of Germany supported Hitler.

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If you understand fascism then you’ll understand how it does pertain to any fascist movements. It’s all about national consciousness.

Also I believe in what is necessary and right now I believe we need fascism, if we do transition to fascism and the state get out of control then I’ll believe in liberalism. I care about the natural order of things not ideas.

I can’t dig deep into this I’m out from home but I’d firstly find it difficult to believe any government is taking in 90% support. Red alarm. Propaganda involves convincing the masses of your overwhelming support.

The Nazis bombed the reichtag (sp?) building to blame their political opposition and seize power. I’d be shocked if there wasn’t some serious poll rigging by these people, 90% damn I call big time bs.

I’ll read up a little on fascism recommend me a link you have in mind.

 

[CJNator]

I can’t dig deep into this I’m out from home but I’d firstly find it difficult to believe any government is taking in 90% support. Red alarm. Propaganda involves convincing the masses of your overwhelming support.

The Nazis bombed the reichtag (sp?) building to blame their political opposition and seize power. I’d be shocked if there wasn’t some serious poll rigging by these people, 90% damn I call big time bs.

I’ll read up a little on fascism recommend me a link you have in mind.

Yea there is propaganda involved and false flags but there is a time and place for things. A lot does go against who I was and if you remember, you and I did see eye to eye on many things, these ideas are relevant to times and it’s all a process to send humanity towards a positive end. Whether it’s fascism or liberalism, all of it is relevant. The cycle of these systems is necessary to keep order yet the destruction of government doesn’t need to be a result. They are all technologies to keep humanity on a good cycle as long as it’s relevant to natural law.

I haven’t read into this recently but this is a basis of reality. Destroy all you biases, wipe them from your mind and read as much as you can. Invalid Link Removed I cannot dictate how you intake this information but truth is truth, this goes beyond fascism and myself. Once you read into this you’ll know what path is necessary for civilization. I’ll be reading it later tonight. I’ll pm you some links on fascism.

 

[ax1]

Yea there is propaganda involved and false flags but there is a time and place for things. A lot does go against who I was and if you remember, you and I did see eye to eye on many things, these ideas are relevant to times and it’s all a process to send humanity towards a positive end. Whether it’s fascism or liberalism, all of it is relevant. The cycle of these systems is necessary to keep order yet the destruction of government doesn’t need to be a result. They are all technologies to keep humanity on a good cycle as long as it’s relevant to natural law.

I haven’t read into this recently but this is a basis of reality. Destroy all you biases, wipe them from your mind and read as much as you can. Invalid Link Removed I cannot dictate how you intake this information but truth is truth, this goes beyond fascism and myself. Once you read into this you’ll know what path is necessary for civilization. I’ll be reading it later tonight. I’ll pm you some links on fascism.

Thanks for the links I started reading one of them. I dont think Ill be getting into books though, this stuff isnt exactly my cup of tea. I read Ron Paul's books on my iPad time to time since I agree with alot of what he says, but its unrealistic for me to get deep into political science and expand deep into all these systems. I will look into these links a little more before I go to bed and some more tomorrow as I find these things interesting and like to get the jist of things. You introduced me to the Misis Institute which I still visit and enjoy time to time. That was way back when we were still kids and saw more eye to eye, lol

Im really a political athiest, my number 1 guy isnt even Ron Paul, its Gerald Celente who is also a anti-war political athiest

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He does a free weekly update on youtube where he is a economic trends forecaster and gets into global politics.

 

[CJNator]

Thanks for the links I started reading one of them. I dont think Ill be getting into books though, this stuff isnt exactly my cup of tea. I read Ron Paul's books on my iPad time to time since I agree with alot of what he says, but its unrealistic for me to get deep into political science and expand deep into all these systems. I will look into these links a little more before I go to bed and some more tomorrow as I find these things interesting and like to get the jist of things. You introduced me to the Misis Institute which I still visit and enjoy time to time. That was way back when we were still kids and saw more eye to eye, lol

Im really a political athiest, my number 1 guy isnt even Ron Paul, its Gerald Celente who is also a anti-war political athiest

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He does a free weekly update on youtube where he is a economic trends forecaster and gets into global politics.

Lol it has nothing with being kids, here are two posts from the Mises site they may intrigue you.

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Also I harp on spirituality rather then atheism, because every religion holds metaphysical truths yet adheres to one or the other creates unnecessary chaos.

 

[ax1]

Lol it has nothing with being kids, here are two posts from the Mises site they may intrigue you.

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Also I harp on spirituality rather then atheism, because every religion holds metaphysical truths yet adheres to one or the other creates unnecessary chaos.

Oh no, I wasnt talking about spirituality, political atheism is strictly political atheism in politics. It doesnt mean you have to be spiritually an atheist.

A good definition of political atheism would be to be unencumbered by political dogma, rigid ideology or conventional wisdom. The motto would strictly be "think for yourself."

 

[CJNator]

Oh no, I wasnt talking about spirituality, political atheism is strictly political atheism in politics. It doesnt mean you have to be spiritually an atheist.

A good definition of political atheism would be to be unencumbered by political dogma, rigid ideology or conventional wisdom. The motto would strictly be "think for yourself."

Ah I thought you were talking about secular politics, ok.

 

[ax1]

Ah I thought you were talking about secular politics, ok.

Thats why I was touchy yesterday when I heard the general comment the the state represents people. Nobody represents me

I was using hitler as a example yesterday just to try to express my point, I didnt mean you actually thought like that about the jews, I just tried to express how that statement can be interpreted. Which I can be wrong of course as I may have misunderstood you but the state has not or ever will represent me nor do I think they represent everyone if they choose not to be.

 

[ax1]

Bark:"Im fiercely independent"

Garbage: "If your going to run your going to have to run as one or the other"

Bark: "Ok republican"

Well, Mr. Bark Buban, your fiercely full a krap and you just lost my vote by saying that. If you were authentic you would tell that garbage reporter he is a load of colon cheese.

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[CJNator]

Thats why I was touchy yesterday when I heard the general comment the the state represents people. Nobody represents me

I was using hitler as a example yesterday just to try to express my point, I didnt mean you actually thought like that about the jews, I just tried to express how that statement can be interpreted. Which I can be wrong of course as I may have misunderstood you but the state has not or ever will represent me nor do I think they represent everyone if they choose not to be.

Ah ok, well it’s more like the state should represent the people, but they do represent a older generation of our population. I personally like pan nationalism due to the fact that it would allow other cultures to separate and create their own nations, this would have to be guided by the state since people don’t know what they want to be honest. All people want are materials but deep down we can all connect to others with culture.

 

[ax1]

Ah ok, well it’s more like the state should represent the people, but they do represent a older generation of our population. I personally like pan nationalism due to the fact that it would allow other cultures to separate and create their own nations, this would have to be guided by the state since people don’t know what they want to be honest. All people want are materials but deep down we can all connect to others with culture.

What does age have to do with state representation? You will find those of all ages who are in either it does, doesnt, or somewhat does categories. Have you ever tried asking people rather than generalizing for all as a whole?

So your saying all people dont know what they want, except for the state? So your ok with Obama or Dump telling you want you want because you admittingly dont know what that is? How do you know the state knows what they want? As far as Im concerned, the state can butt out of my life, its none of their business what I want and what materials I need whether it be water or smut.

 

[thebigt]

Why the FBI? I thought the local sheriff was running this show. This isn't really FBI's thing unless they do find a link to a bigger group that crosses state lines. FBI may be there as support, but did you see anywhere that they took the case over?

ok, I just followed the dotted line...the fbi has been present from the beginning, I assumed anytime the fbi is involved they are in charge...WHO is in charge is not as important as why the evidence is not in possession of law enforcement.

this case has completely disappeared from the media.....yesterday was week 3 and we have many unanswered questions.

 

[CJNator]

What does age have to do with state representation? You will find those of all ages who are in either it does, doesnt, or somewhat does categories. Have you ever tried asking people rather than generalizing for all as a whole?

So your saying all people dont know what they want, except for the state? So your ok with Obama or Dump telling you want you want because you admittingly dont know what that is? How do you know the state knows what they want? As far as Im concerned, the state can butt out of my life, its none of their business what I want and what materials I need whether it be water or smut.

Well because there are generations of people within America what have been in politics too long. Rather then having them renewed to stay relevant rather then irrelevant.

 

[thebigt]

Well because there are generations of people within America what have been in politics too long. Rather then having them renewed to stay relevant rather then irrelevant.

lol...better to burn out than fade away.....

 

[ax1]

ok, I just followed the dotted line...the fbi has been present from the beginning, I assumed anytime the fbi is involved they are in charge...WHO is in charge is not as important as why the evidence is not in possession of law enforcement.

this case has completely disappeared from the media.....yesterday was week 3 and we have many unanswered questions.

Shadow government (who even the FBI recently acknowledges actively exists when their recent documents said they ran the Hiltery investigation) is always above the FBI. If their foot was on the ground or calling the shots behind the scenes the FBI 100% was not in any way in charge.

 

[jswain34]

Bark:"Im fiercely independence"

Garbage: "If your going to run your going to have to run as one or the other"

Bark: "Ok republican"

Well, Mr. Bark Buban, your fiercely full a krap and you just lost my vote by saying that. If you were authentic you would tell that garbage reporter he is a load of colon cheese.

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I saw earlier that Bernie said he plans to run again, but this time as an independent.

 

[ax1]

I saw earlier that Bernie said he plans to run again, but this time as an independent.

For state senate if I remember correctly. I think he always was an “I” when running for that seat. He was a Democrat when he ran for puppet in chief.

He dropped down right back to an independent shortly after the prez election was stolen from him.

 

[thebigt]

I guess the slogan is true..'what happens in vegas stays in vegas'...

 

[jswain34]

For state senate if I remember correctly. I think he always was an “I” when running for that seat. He was a Democrat when he ran for puppet in chief.

He dropped down right back to an independent shortly after the prez election was stolen from him.

Ah, gotcha

 

[CJNator]

lol...better to burn out than fade away.....

Not when the nation is at stake. Politicians need to be populists so the system can be relevant.

 

[Aleksandar37]

ok, I just followed the dotted line...the fbi has been present from the beginning, I assumed anytime the fbi is involved they are in charge...WHO is in charge is not as important as why the evidence is not in possession of law enforcement.

this case has completely disappeared from the media.....yesterday was week 3 and we have many unanswered questions.

The same piece of paper that prevents the government from rounding up guns is what makes it so the FBI can't just take whatever they want. There's a process and the more lawyers involved means the slower that process will go. Vegas can claim to be the family friendly place that it is now, but I guarantee there is a lot going on in that hotel that they don't want investigators to know about.

And this is always how it is with news events. The general public is like the dog from the movie Up and everyday there is a new squirrel to distract it. I'm sure there will be some big concert or event to celebrate/mourn the one year anniversary and then everybody will forget again. As for answers, don't hold your breath. People are still asking questions about JFK (also don't get your hopes up that any answers will be in those disclosed documents) and that was over fifty years ago.

 

[Glycomann]

Well because there are generations of people within America what have been in politics too long. Rather then having them renewed to stay relevant rather then irrelevant.

Do you think your father and grandfather are irrelevant?

 

[CJNator]

Do you think your father and grandfather are irrelevant?

You’re misinterpreting my statement, it’s the mentality, ideas, and traditions that become irrelevant in time. They are only things to learn from, not to maintain. We must learn from the past and build for the future, not stay in the past. There’s no progress in stagnation.

 

[ax1]

You’re misinterpreting my statement, it’s the mentality, ideas, and traditions that become irrelevant in time. They are only things to learn from, not to maintain. We must learn from the past and build for the future, not stay in the past. There’s no progress in stagnation.

That past can be interpreted differently, and progress can simply mean sinking the ship.

Stagnation can be better than progress. I just went through this term "progress" this past 8 years, I cant take any more of it, lol

 

[CJNator]

That past can be interpreted differently, and progress can simply mean sinking the ship.

Stagnation can be better than progress. I just went through this term "progress" this past 8 years, I cant take any more of it, lol

Well interpretation doesn’t really matter. There are truths and lies, what works and what doesn’t work. Progress isn’t a sucking ship, then that’s not progression lol that’s regression.

Stagnation is never good, look at the indigenous tribes that remain stagnant in there ways. Would you rather live with them or where you’re at now?

 

[ax1]

Well interpretation doesn’t really matter. There are truths and lies, what works and what doesn’t work. Progress isn’t a sucking ship, then that’s not progression lol that’s regression.

Stagnation is never good, look at the indigenous tribes that remain stagnant in there ways. Would you rather live with them or where you’re at now?

Different people simply have different views of what is progression and regression.

So one's idea of progression may be another's view of regression. Modern day liberal's ideas of progress is my idea of alot of vomit and brown stains in my pants.

I dont think its for you to judge the way of life of indigenous tribes, its their choosing and your "progression" may be their "regression." They are quite happy with how they are clinging to their values and cultures, there is nothing wrong with that as long as they leave you alone as to your way of life.

 

[Glycomann]

You’re misinterpreting my statement, it’s the mentality, ideas, and traditions that become irrelevant in time. They are only things to learn from, not to maintain. We must learn from the past and build for the future, not stay in the past. There’s no progress in stagnation.

I think you easily dismiss the anthropological history of mankind in general. Your idea seem post modernist.

 

[thebigt]

The same piece of paper that prevents the government from rounding up guns is what makes it so the FBI can't just take whatever they want. There's a process and the more lawyers involved means the slower that process will go. Vegas can claim to be the family friendly place that it is now, but I guarantee there is a lot going on in that hotel that they don't want investigators to know about.

And this is always how it is with news events. The general public is like the dog from the movie Up and everyday there is a new squirrel to distract it. I'm sure there will be some big concert or event to celebrate/mourn the one year anniversary and then everybody will forget again. As for answers, don't hold your breath. People are still asking questions about JFK (also don't get your hopes up that any answers will be in those disclosed documents) and that was over fifty years ago.

58 people killed 500 injured...I am very surprised there isn't more demand for answers....I wonder why the media has buried this story?

 

[ax1]

58 people killed 500 injured...I am very surprised there isn't more demand for answers....I wonder why the media has buried this story?

I hope your really not looking for the media to demand the answers and just saying that

Thats the place I go to every day to know what they are doing to brainwash society.

 

[thebigt]

I hope your really not looking for the media to demand the answers and just saying that

Thats the place I go to every day to know what they are doing to brainwash society.

yeah, actually I am expecting much more from the media than they have been delivering...I am very disappointed in the lack of updates--at the very least they should be keeping the heat on for release of more info...THIS IS A HUGE STORY!!!

 

[thebigt]

The same piece of paper that prevents the government from rounding up guns is what makes it so the FBI can't just take whatever they want. There's a process and the more lawyers involved means the slower that process will go. Vegas can claim to be the family friendly place that it is now, but I guarantee there is a lot going on in that hotel that they don't want investigators to know about.

And this is always how it is with news events. The general public is like the dog from the movie Up and everyday there is a new squirrel to distract it. I'm sure there will be some big concert or event to celebrate/mourn the one year anniversary and then everybody will forget again. As for answers, don't hold your breath. People are still asking questions about JFK (also don't get your hopes up that any answers will be in those disclosed documents) and that was over fifty years ago.

I AM REALLY FOCUSED ON THE VEGAS SHOOTING...don't worry we will get to the JFK files after I get vegas out of my system, lol.

 

[ax1]

yeah, actually I am expecting much more from the media than they have been delivering...I am very disappointed in the lack of updates--at the very least they should be keeping the heat on for release of more info...THIS IS A HUGE STORY!!!

I went through the same thing on 9/11 and the media did nothing but cover up everything and still do. No updates with all the evidence out there alerady available, and that was 3,000, not 50. Give it up, please! Go to infowars or something

Alternative media (well select ones) has never let up on Vegas coverage and provides a trillion more times information than Fox or CiaNN. Mainstream media is solidified absolute disinformation. Look at Operation Mockingbird and Smith-Mundt Act.

 

[thebigt]

I went through the same thing on 9/11 and the media did nothing but cover up everything and still do. No updates with all the evidence out there alerady available, and that was 3,000, not 50. Give it up, please! Go to infowars or something

Alternative media (well select ones) has never let up on Vegas coverage and provides a trillion more times information than Fox or CiaNN. Mainstream media is solidified absolute disinformation. Look at Operation Mockingbird and Smith-Mundt Act.

going to go to infowars and see what they say....

 

[thebigt]

I was just thinking of something...what if---Obama was tied to a huge scandal and a warrant was issued for his arrest...

I wonder what the sight of Obama being led away in cuffs would do to the extreme lefties?


i bet we would have total rebellion!!!

 

[ax1]

going to go to infowars and see what they say....

infowars isnt just about what "infowars" says btw. They have their own set of independent reporters, but are very active posting various stuff from all over the net from many different sources including mainstream. Alex on his show does talk about these issues all the time which you wont get as much on the site, and more importantly interviews interesting people, either experts, witnesses, etc...that you wont see or hear anywhere.

The last article I saw was about Vegas on infowars was yesterday. It was about all these ambulances and how they pulled people out of hooters. This article was originally from some site I never heard of though, I didnt really read this yet, I havent been following Vegas much at all to be honest. You tell me what you think if you do.
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[ax1]

I was just thinking of something...what if---Obama was tied to a huge scandal and a warrant was issued for his arrest...

I wonder what the sight of Obama being led away in cuffs would do to the extreme lefties?


i bet we would have total rebellion!!!

With all the corruption and criminalizes from the puppet in chief position over the decades, I cant imagine seeing the day they show the Prez or former prez taken away in cuffs. I think that is just about impossible, the government just doesnt want these images to ever happen. I can see due process and impeachments, etc....processed, but you wont see our leaders on top in cuffs.

Would I love Obama to be taken away in cuffs? Yes, absolutely I can think of many many crimes and violations he has partaken in that should allow that.

 

[thebigt]

infowars isnt just about what "infowars" says btw. They have their own set of independent reporters, but are very active posting various stuff from all over the net from many different sources including mainstream. Alex on his show does talk about these issues all the time which you wont get as much on the site, and more importantly interviews interesting people, either experts, witnesses, etc...that you wont see or hear anywhere.

The last article I saw was about Vegas on infowars was yesterday. It was about all these ambulances and how they pulled people out of hooters. This article was originally from some site I never heard of though, I didnt really read this yet, I havent been following Vegas much at all to be honest. You tell me what you think if you do.
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I think they set up triage there in hooters....