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PH's vs. SARM's

D4g

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I am looking to run something that yields moderate strength and size gains but is still mild in nature. My last cycle in 2015 was Test E and before that I ran the OG Halodrol in 2013. On Halodrol I gained around 15-20lbs in 6 weeks and all my lifts shot up very rapidly. On top of that, I was also able to maintain more gains from that cycle versus Test E; which is the main reason I am looking for something mild.

I stopped following legal type of stuff when the PH ban happened in 2014. That is why I'm posting here; I just need a general direction to be pointed in according to my needs. I've heard some things about SARMs over the past couple of years but most recently I heard about a new wave of PH's being released. One in particular that caught my eye is Halodrol by Gaspari. It's clearly not the same formula as the old stuff but I've seen some reviews that got me interested (first result for "Gaspari Nutrition Halodrol Review" on Youtube). According to the video, it doesn't suppress testosterone and you don't need any type of cycle support or PCT which leads me to the thought that it's most likely B.S.


Anyways, I'm looking forward to recommendations. Thanks.
 
that's COMPLETE bs... its andro's and will 100% cause suppression, need cycle supports, full pct, etc. Fking youtube morons.

IMO, most of the sarms are just as bad as the mild ph's (i.e. andros/dheas) in terms of sides and suppression, but unless you choose some of the harsher ones and run them good and high, the gains seem to be less.

My suggestion is to just go for a good ph (honestly, i'd look for something that's banned) and call it a day. Most of the new stuff is all hype, bs in terms of "no sides/pct", and gains are average at best.
 
D4g said:
I am looking to run something that yields moderate strength and size gains but is still mild in nature. My last cycle in 2015 was Test E and before that I ran the OG Halodrol in 2013. On Halodrol I gained around 15-20lbs in 6 weeks and all my lifts shot up very rapidly. On top of that, I was also able to maintain more gains from that cycle versus Test E; which is the main reason I am looking for something mild.

I stopped following legal type of stuff when the PH ban happened in 2014. That is why I'm posting here; I just need a general direction to be pointed in according to my needs. I've heard some things about SARMs over the past couple of years but most recently I heard about a new wave of PH's being released. One in particular that caught my eye is Halodrol by Gaspari. It's clearly not the same formula as the old stuff but I've seen some reviews that got me interested (first result for "Gaspari Nutrition Halodrol Review" on Youtube). According to the video, it doesn't suppress testosterone and you don't need any type of cycle support or PCT which leads me to the thought that it's most likely B.S.


Anyways, I'm looking forward to recommendations. Thanks.
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The gaspari halodrol is just a combination of prohormones that go through a two step conversion to 1-testosterone and testosterone. It looks ok but would definitely suppress and need a proper pct (serm) IMO......
 
Like the other two have said it will suppress and you will need novla or clomid for a proper 4 week pct.
 
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