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More Prohormones banned ???

Arnold_strong

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Got an email from a supplement company that stated
"Due to recent events this week involving Hi Tech Pharamaceuticals, it looks like this could be the end for 1-andro,4-andro, prohormones and DMAA. Get it while you can as supplies are very limited and will not be restocked"

What happened ?
 
Long story short, they aren't going anywhere. The email you got was that company just trying to move more product.
 
No but this does bring up good question. Hi-tech owns the patents to all of the dhea prohormones and supplies everyone who uses them. What happens if the company implodes?
 
Long story short, they aren't going anywhere. The email you got was that company just trying to move more product.
I really don't think so... They're not allowed to sell anymore dmaa and obviously their prohormones were seized. In not sure how you guys think they will survive without any liquid capital moving through the company.... I think a lot of people will be in for a shock.
 
Its illegal for the patent holders to have someone else manufacture the andros?

Of course, such a scenario doesnt immediately fit the narrative "GOING OUT OF STOCK BETTER BUY UP LARGE GUIZE!!1!!"
 
I really don't think so... They're not allowed to sell anymore dmaa and obviously their prohormones were seized. In not sure how you guys think they will survive without any liquid capital moving through the company.... I think a lot of people will be in for a shock.

They had no right to get their prohormones seized. All the nomenclatures the DEA/FDA stated for their prohormones were incorrect and DHEA derivatives are all protected through DASCA. Not that it matters to me as anyone who knows where to look can still buy anything and everything they could want.
 
I believe the issue with the Andros is that they found contaminates of scheduled drugs. Like boldione..

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They had no right to get their prohormones seized. All the nomenclatures the DEA/FDA stated for their prohormones were incorrect and DHEA derivatives are all protected through DASCA. Not that it matters to me as anyone who knows where to look can still buy anything and everything they could want.
Well this is the federal government. One thing I know is that they don't make moves unless they have a case. And the feds conviction rate is really high over 90%. This isn't a move made where things are going to just go away I'm telling you. Its calculated and they're choking the life out of the company right now by cutting off all they're main sources of income.
 
He was only indicted on his red yeast rice formula but told him they wouldn't let him out of jail unless he stopped selling dmaa. They also said that under dasca they can pretty much consider anything violates the law and they can ban it in 30 days so that's the plan for the andros now. Bye bye andros, it was fun. It's either creatine or aas from now on fellas.
 
He was only indicted on his red yeast rice formula but told him they wouldn't let him out of jail unless he stopped selling dmaa. They also said that under dasca they can pretty much consider anything violates the law and they can ban it in 30 days so that's the plan for the andros now. Bye bye andros, it was fun. It's either creatine or aas from now on fellas.

That's not true, they have him on 18 charges. Wire fraud, money laundering etc.
 
Agree
Having worked in government labs , I wouldn't put my faith on their testing

But was Hitech using off shore manufacturing of their pro hormones ?
 
That's not true, they have him on 18 charges. Wire fraud, money laundering etc.

I'm just going off of an article that anabolic minds shared on fb. I'm sure more could have been added but info isn't false. Maybe incomplete but not false.
 
I'm just going off of an article that anabolic minds shared on fb. I'm sure more could have been added but info isn't false. Maybe incomplete but not false.
I got ya man... Let me see if I can find the one I read and post it up

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jared wheat has a history with the FDA they have been trying to put this man outta business for 30 yrs.. somehow he keeps coming out on top of them.. not sure any of this will stick when his high powered lawyers get in on it.
 
It would be HILARIOUS if the andros got banned and trest ace were still available as a research chemical. The government is fcking stupid.
 
jared wheat has a history with the FDA they have been trying to put this man outta business for 30 yrs.. somehow he keeps coming out on top of them.. not sure any of this will stick when his high powered lawyers get in on it.
Yeah the funny thing about that is, he's not making any statements this time... He did do fed time once. Like I said I'm not sure if people understand the difference between State charges and federal charges but when the FED scoop you up you're going to get a conviction. I think he's fought a valiant effort against our federal government but I don't see him bouncing back from this one. They stuck him with 18 charges, and the thing about the fed's is they don't come after you unless they have an ironclad case.

Most of what he's been fighting have been appeals for rulings and dmaa. They arrested him once and he did prison time and now they've arrested him again it's a different animal.
 
Hasn't the guy been indicted mutiple times and always came out a free man?


No he's been imprisoned twice in the last 9 years. 2008 two-year sentence and 2014. This will be the 3rd time in the last 9 years if they sentence him to prison time which is probable imo.
 
This company labels PH's as Anavar and DBol-- but they don't even look like the chemical makeup of a compound that would convert to either one of them. Is it true these are all just DHEA essentially, and they will not convert to either one of those compounds?
 
This company labels PH's as Anavar and DBol-- but they don't even look like the chemical makeup of a compound that would convert to either one of them. Is it true these are all just DHEA essentially, and they will not convert to either one of those compounds?

They are all combinations of 1-andro, 4-andro, epi-andro, and r-andro, with random natural supplements sprinkled in there, as well. The names are just marketing.
 
They are all combinations of 1-andro, 4-andro, epi-andro, and r-andro, with random natural supplements sprinkled in there, as well. The names are just marketing.

Thanks bro. So really the only compounds you can get this day in age are 1AD, or 4AD? Is the Epi-Andro actual Epistane?

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On a side note- its pretty lame they label the PH Anavar when it will do nothing comparable to that amazing compound.
 
It would be HILARIOUS if the andros got banned and trest ace were still available as a research chemical. The government is fcking stupid.
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I'm not one for anarchy, but our government has overstepped in so many areas that I can't take them serious anymore. They are frauds. Even worse, ideological ones at that. Our government has always hated things that represent manhood and freedom. While I don't think the average joe in a federal agency such as the FDA/DEA puts much interest in the grander scheme at hand, the top officials are ideologues no doubt - ideologues that hate the idea of the power of the country remaining in the hands of it's individual people. So they attempt to control by overstepping their boundaries, especially the regulatory branch of government - that branch isn't even constitutional to begin with. No where does the constitution give the president the power to appoint unelected officials to create laws and govern the people with said laws.

And the federal peons aren't 100% innocent either. They worship at the alter of law and order, regardless what the law is and whether or not the order is one of slavery and coerce. Laws in an of themselves aren't guaranteed to be holy and ideal. They are to exist to protect it's people from harm and help define what is right vs. wrong. Our federal government left that philosophy in the dust decades ago.

The best thing we can do is knock the federal fairy dust off our shoulders and move on to bigger and better products and innovation that keeps them reactive and having to create new laws and new oversteps. We need to render their laws ineffective by showing them that the market demand for something does not go away just because they create a law against it. In fact, there is no threat man could propose that would snuff out the demand for things like steroids and prohormones. As long as this world is physical one, we'll always have a desire for stuff like this.

I called the agencies "federal fairy dust" for a reason - they live in a fairytale land where they actually believe they have the ability to change the desires and behavior of people - they believe in this utopian society where God is government and the people are controlled by such, against their will, to create a perfect society, but perfection being defined by the Praetorian Guard, not the common folk.
 
Fair doos.
What're they like, as in compare to something.

epiandro will get you veiny and you will increase strength. 1-dhea you will put on some size and strength but i tend to get back pumps on it.

unlike the methyl's, i won't **** out my liver either. they are as good as the old ones, but better than anything natural on the market.
 
Liver damage is overrated. It's the arterial hardening, blood lipids, hematology & kidney values that you should be concerned with.
 
epiandro will get you veiny and you will increase strength. 1-dhea you will put on some size and strength but i tend to get back pumps on it.

unlike the methyl's, i won't **** out my liver either. they are as good as the old ones, but better than anything natural on the market.

i just realized i said they were as good as the old one. i forgot the not part. no way they are good as the old ones. hopefully nobody thinks i'm took crazy.
 
i just realized i said they were as good as the old one. i forgot the not part. no way they are good as the old ones. hopefully nobody thinks i'm took crazy.

I just went and spent $966898766 on epiandro thinking it will be better than the old PH. Thanks.
 
I just went and spent $966898766 on epiandro thinking it will be better than the old PH. Thanks.

I know you're joking.

But I bought some for a good price from someone because I'm interested in trying it pre-workout. I've heard it can give some added aggression and strength. Out of all the andros, I think it would be the most useful, kind of like an oral Masteron at high enough doses.
 
i just remember the kid on youtube with bright yellow eyes from the methyls he took.

I've got bright yellow eyes all the time, on and off cycle. Liver is perfectly healthy though
 
I've got bright yellow eyes all the time, on and off cycle. Liver is perfectly healthy though
Too much ganja ? or you're a vampire.
 
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