S-drol on ectodragon. Unsponsored!

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Hi AM folks:

2nd unsponsored log here. 1st one was a 2 week trial with Dien Diol TD from PRE for my pet ectodragon. Which was a very nice hardening, strength agent (Tren like effect, with low sides). Nice.

Ectodragon had recomped faster than expected, via Purerawz Sr9009 and PRE Dien-Diol TD combo worked to recomp my ectodragon. My pet dragon sits at 207lbs and 13% BF on my Eat Smart Scale this morning. So now it's time to start S-Drol research before more PRE research.

Now that the in-laws are flying home and I'll have some better control of my kitchen, I expect to be able to up food intake S-drol research.

First S-drol session this AM - gave my firebreathing pet 10mg (0.5mL) of purerawz' S-Drol this AM, pre workout. The extra strength and sweating when doing high intensity, low rest between is nice. Makes purposeful over training in an hour+, a real possibility. Got through two modalities of each major back and bicep exercise, in around an hour. So dragon reports it feels similar to other S-Drol containing PH he's researched.

Research cycle will be 10mg first two days, followed by 20mg for weeks 2, 3, 4. Steady dose daily. If water retention kicks in, I may opt for Dien-Diol TD mid cycle to make sure we don't get a bloated dragon. Lecheek cycle armor (with NAC) + TUDCA on deck to keep dragon's internals healthy.

My past research has largely been oral PH basis, with a couple SARMs now under belt as well. However, I'm reading now that my pet should have had a test base the whole time for the methyl PH he prefers? Yet with decent PCT, he made and kept really good gains the past two years without going full dark side and pinning Test C/E?

Instead of pinning my dragon, I do have a stock of 4-androstenediol (also from purerawz) he could run along side the S-drol, but even from first dose today it feels like my past experience with S-drol PH, will know by end of week for sure. However, to combat sides later in cycle, could 4-AD powder work from what I'm reading? Anyone know the 4-androstenediol recommended dose for test base, combined with another PH like S-Drol? 100mg-150mg PWO?

Thanks guys!
 
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AnabolicGuru - thought you might be interested since you were also about research S-Drol too?
 
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Oh nice, lol, whose? German Pharma, Brawn UK? Or purerawz?
 
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Cool, just checked them out. Always on the hunt, for good overseas brands. Drop me a line to the log when you get it going.
 
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Cool, just checked them out. Always on the hunt, for good overseas brands. Drop me a line to the log when you get it going.
Predatornutrition has been the best so far. Hopefully this bc epi is just as good.
 
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Power my self, was the other one i tried to send u b4, but was blocked... remove spaces, add dot com
 
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Oops got an infraction, kill source talk. Just log talk now...
 
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Lol, you are right! Wow brain fart there.

Also, I know S-drol won't aromatize, but I think (not sure) my ectodragon research pet might have light gyno on right nip! I have plenty of Novladex I can give him, Armistane. Reading about letrozole, raloxifene, etc... I feel a slight small lump on his right nip, reminiscent of something from early teenage dragon years. This went away as hormone boost from puberty normalized. However, he's now 37 so it's not that!

Is it possible to continue the S-drol cycle for my pet and use Armistane (AI) or Novladex (SERM) and then went PCT hits use letrozole (or what else can reverse gyno). I read that Novla will slow progression, but may need letro to reverse?

Thanks in advance!
 
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Lol, you are right! Wow brain fart there.

Also, I know S-drol won't aromatize, but I think (not sure) my ectodragon research pet might have light gyno on right nip! I have plenty of Novladex I can give him, Armistane. Reading about letrozole, raloxifene, etc... I feel a slight small lump on his right nip, reminiscent of something from early teenage dragon years. This went away as T-level boost from puberty normalized. However, he's now 37 so it's not that!

Is it possible to continue the S-drol cycle for my pet and use Armistane (AI) or Novladex (SERM) and then went PCT hits use letrozole (or what else can reverse gyno). I read that Novla will slow progression, but may need letro to reverse?

Thanks in advance!
Probably best to use the AI now nolva in pct and letro if you need it.
 
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Probably best to use the AI now nolva in pct and letro if you need it.
I will do that, probably should note this first popped up at end of last methyl PH run toward PCT for my dragon.

I thought Novaldex and Armistane solved, but it has cropped back up a few days ago. Not related to S-drol...

So Armistane through cycle, then novla toward PCT, and letro only if needed.
 
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Good luck with the cycle man. Hope it all goes well I'll be following
 
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Some preliminary good news this AM.

My pet ectodragon started 75mg yesterday / 75mg this morning of Armistane (Lecheek Ad-3 PCT brand) and I've noticed the right nipple lump has softened or reduced a good bit overnight... so I hope I am catching early rebound gyno and squashing it here? Or delaying the onset until I can properly PCT after this.

Since initial dose of S-drol @ 10mg and workout was smooth yesterday, upped dragon's normal solo daily dose to 20mg through rest of the cycle.

Also, so far GTG on Purerawz. I've researched with their Tadalafil, SR 9009 liquid, and their Novladex raised my dragon's T-levels time pretty fast, from my blood work I could see this post cycle (total T was still low, but free T was normal almost high).

Today's workout for dragon was a pretty tough chest (16 sets, 4 modalities), tricep (12 sets, 3 modalities), and threw in some deep leg squats (medium weight, high volume) on the smith rack at the end of it all, in an hour before work. Felt like good clean S-drol. Solid fullness and pump in arms and chest, hard to get arms up to squat bar lol - hurt due to pump. I guess I should mention I due also use Outlier Nutrition's Deviation PWO drink and creatine HCL, but monohydrate also works here too.

Weight stats to come later. Increasing dragon's frequency of feed - keeping protein bars and cereal handy, as appetite is up as well. S-drol and DMZ made him more confident, less of a dick. I am thinking I need chill pillz when using 19-nor (Tren, Dien-diol. etc) compounds.

After two weeks of solo S-drol, may decide to add 7-alpha ACE from PRE to the dragon's mix, for a PWO strength booster. And sometime later, will research that one solo sometime as well - when my pet can handle the frequent dosing from shorter half life - without work being in the way.

So far so good, waiting for my pet's urine to turn more bright orange-yellow from the methylated PH stress byproducts being excreted - then I'll know for sure :) That usually takes a few days. Increased TUDCA from now on 750mg ED. Lecheeck cycle armor provides the NAC and Milkthistle, et. al.
 
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I love nothing more than watching other Ectodragon owners feed their beasts old school DS's! I have been VERY interested in the aforementioned brand of SD that you have chosen to allow your pet research. Just remember to AGGRESSIVELY HYDRATE that thing so that his urine doesn't darken too terribly much to begin with. You will be able to decipher the quality of the compound in better ways than that IMO. Besides, my Ectodragon isn't housebroken and I would hate to have to clean up that mess...

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(that's him after a good scolding)
 
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Happy Humpday!

Ectodragon's feeling good day 3. I do believe his S-srol has kicked in pretty fast. His weight on scale is up 210-211 lbs and 13.6%BF, up from 207 lbs and 13% BF or so end of recomp. cycle before this. The % BF I read on these Eat Smart electronic foot scales, to be water-inflammation response, as well as fat %. Just something I've noticed over cycles with my pet. Increased water reads as BF% at end of methyl PH cycle.

Also, his hunger is up, after full dinner + before bed snack of full bowl of frosted mini wheats and 1% or 2% milk. Also, pretty regularly wake up at 2am'ish and have a protein bar, or another full bowl of cereal. Muscles feel full more around the clock, half life is ~8hrs from what I read.

Today was off-day for recovery, first two days hit pretty hard. Shoulders and legs and some cardio on Thursday. It feels to him like other S-drol/DMZ based PH. If continues to go well, will run this solo for a bit.

I guess goal by end of his S-drol research cycle would be 220lbs and ~15% BF, and then PCT to trial Superdiol or 7 Alpha Ace for his next PRE based research.
 
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Thirsty Thursday for the dragon.

A strong shoulders and leg press research day with some rear delt focus too.

Dragon feels nice all day pump at 20mg, pretty clean. Only mild yellowing of urine with hydration up, so not as harsh as m1ad et.al.

So he may finish my other half bottle of dien diol, added 1mL TD to shoulders tonight. Curious if S-drol will provide weight gain and dien diol will provide hardness and some strength. Noticed a nice warmness from evening application and increase hardness across upper body.

Bit of initial lethargy from the combo though, will see how this progresses for him.

Lets see!
 
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Weight update now upto 213 lbs and 14.1% BF, whee. Only 7 lbs to dragon's initial research cycle goal.

And, Armistane seems to be still reducing the minor right nip gyno - yeah this small soft lump is still mildly disconcerting. Never had rebound gyno in first 5-6 cycles.

Maybe raloxifene or letro needed if this stays present, even though minimised a bit?
 
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Thirsty Thursday for the dragon.

Curious if S-drol will provide weight gain and dien diol will provide hardness and some strength. Noticed a nice warmness from evening application and increase hardness across upper body.

Bit of initial lethargy from the combo though, will see how this progresses for him.

Lets see!
IME with SD, it did provide a dry weight increase along with hardness and strength increase. It is an excellent compound IMO. I have no experience with dien diol.
 
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I would say the Dien-Diol TD from PRE provides Tren like benefits (strength, hardness of muscle / density) and ability to recomp more easily. Added to S-drol pumps, some quality hardness, I'm adding some weight now at 214lbs and 14.2% BF today on the eat smart scale.

Also, urine is still moderate yellow bright, not super bright or orange to darkening like some dual or tri methyl PH blends (even with increased hydration and liver support).
 
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Crazy good pump today on S-drol, did back and biceps.

Up at 215.5lbs and 14.5%BF on the scale as well - now tied for the heaviest I've ever been. Gotta push to 220-225 so I can cut water weight after and reset norm at 205-210lbs lean (instead of the 200lbs or so I was at recently at 13% BF).

Also, good news I think... about the right nip (rebound gyno), I have been using 75mg Armistane and that seemed to reduce it a bit, but reading about SERMs binding to the breast tissue, I've also decided to add 10mg of Novladex also purerawz brand - past two days - noticing further reduction small lump is softer / almost gone this AM.

Goal is to finish the cycle 220-225lbs at 15% in 1-2 weeks, avoid gyno & PCT, and then start a fresh PRE Superdiol log after I cut to 205-210 lean hopefully.
 
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New weight record for ectodragon today, S-drol is gtg from purerawz.
217lbs and 14.7% BF

Dragon took evening dose of 100mg dien diol in the evening as well noticed several hour hardness and pump from it.

Good combo :)
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And completely smashed a back and biceps day today.
 
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Well it's nearing end of 2-weeks research. My ectodragon hit 219lbs and 15% BF today, pretty close to short cycle goal. I'll continue this, for a few more days until bridging my pet into a comparison with Superdiol from PRE for 2-3 more weeks - before a well deserved PCT.

Dragon added weight pretty consistently, seems less harsh on liver than it's cousin DMZ, urine not as bright orange. Felt pretty clean, lean gainer overall, not too much water retention (yet). Maybe that hits on longer cycles, past 3-4 weeks will find out next time. Steady dosing of just 1mL or 25mg daily for solid results.

Overall good stuff.

And I found out Armistane is kinda of worthless as an AI, besides giving my pet dry joints. I'm using purerawz Novla 10mg to 20mg past few days and it seems to be reducing my right nip gyno flare up nicely.

So on track for cycle goals and dodging some gyno sides, alright!
 

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