First Cycle questions/advice

SouthPawSD

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So I'm getting ready to run my first cycle, been studying this since June.
Stats are 6'4" 14%bf 221. 23 yrs old. I'm looking to breakingthrough those dang plateaus! Anyways here is what my first cycle is going to be: 8 weeks
1andro (sup3r 1 elite)330/330/330/330/330/330/330/330
4 Andro (sup3r 4 elite) 330/330/330/330/330/330/330/330
Epiandro (sup3r epi elite) 750/750/750/750/750/750/750/750

PCT:
clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20

The questions I just want finalized before starting: worth running clomid and nolva for Oct or overkill? I'd rather be safe then sorry.

Oncycle support:
Was looking into ar1macare pro at 8 caps a day. Is there better options out there or cheaper options that are comparable? This crap gets expensive! Open to any advice on this part.

And finally any things that I missed?
 
Hey bro, I’d love to know how you get on as I’m planning exactly this cycle for my first. Literally just sorting my serm before I get cracking.

I had exactly the same query on the pct. seem some people run both but thing that’s typically on a harsher cycle than the andro’s. I’m getting nolva delivered as a back up just in case I get all ducking emotional on the clomid ��.

Couple of bits I had in my plan (which I’ve seen some of the wiser guys on here) talk about.....

A natty test booster to run in pct (alphamax xt, kingsblood or rebirth all seem decent)

Exem on hand for gyno sides (not so likely on this stack from what I can tell but better to hand in case as the 4 does covert)

I was also going to throw reduce xt for cortisol control into my pct.

I feel ya on the cost, I was going to buy the andros separately (prime evil) but saw spartan Cerberus has the same 3 but works out much cheaper (4 caps would be 340/340/600) - add one bottle of epiandro and I can run the same doses but saving about a third......

You gonna post a cycle log bro?
 
You could use two serms for pct, but it's not something necessary, especially for an andro stack. Go with ar1macare pro, it's honestly pretty cheap for what you're getting.
 
Whisky said:
Hey bro, I’d love to know how you get on as I’m planning exactly this cycle for my first. Literally just sorting my serm before I get cracking.

I had exactly the same query on the pct. seem some people run both but thing that’s typically on a harsher cycle than the andro’s. I’m getting nolva delivered as a back up just in case I get all ducking emotional on the clomid ��.

Couple of bits I had in my plan (which I’ve seen some of the wiser guys on here) talk about.....

A natty test booster to run in pct (alphamax xt, kingsblood or rebirth all seem decent)

Exem on hand for gyno sides (not so likely on this stack from what I can tell but better to hand in case as the 4 does covert)

I was also going to throw reduce xt for cortisol control into my pct.

I feel ya on the cost, I was going to buy the andros separately (prime evil) but saw spartan Cerberus has the same 3 but works out much cheaper (4 caps would be 340/340/600) - add one bottle of epiandro and I can run the same doses but saving about a third......

You gonna post a cycle log bro?
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Thanks for your post! I haven't decided on the login yet, maybe I might would help me stay more strict on diet haha. I'm planning on recomping so won't to get it very nailed down. Ya as of right now I plan on running Olympus UK/labs, but might switch if I find a better deal. Haha
 
AnabolicGuru said:
You could use two serms for pct, but it's not something necessary, especially for an andro stack. Go with ar1macare pro, it's honestly pretty cheap for what you're getting.
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Thanks bro! And the ar1macare would be 8 caps/day for on cycle and through PCT, or less on PCT?
 
Haha, accountability for the diet is one reason for a log.....to be honest I’m planning to do one so I have some smart people to check stuff with on the way. I’m like you, researched a lot but thinking you can never tell how it’s gonna go until your balls deep mid cycle.

Good luck with yours bro - get jacked
 
Whisky said:
Haha, accountability for the diet is one reason for a log.....to be honest I’m planning to do one so I have some smart people to check stuff with on the way. I’m like you, researched a lot but thinking you can never tell how it’s gonna go until your balls deep mid cycle.

Good luck with yours bro - get jacked
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Ya bro get jacked! Haha ya it would be different for me, I doing it more for sports so not straight bodybuilding stuff so it will be interesting to see how it turns out. Good luck on your run!
 
Use one SERM and save the other. I would also add AlphaMax XT during your PCT. AlphaMax XT will have you covered from all angles, in addition to the SERM. You will get a full dosed AI, Ashwagandha can also help reduce cortisol y reducing stress/anxiety. It also provides an increase in body comp. It helps maintain lean mass and increase fat loss. F95 increase cAMP levels and also does the same thing regarding body composition. You also have several ingredients that will aid in boosting testosterone. It beats buying an AI, testbooster, something for libido, etc. It is a nice, all in one solution when combined with a SERM.
 
The reason you use two is because you might wanna dose a single one higher and when you have two you can decrease the amount of both and not get the sides. Clomid as an example should be dosed kinda high and people sometimes say they get blurry vision. Now with nolva you can go much lower on Clomid and not see these sides. I'm not 100% sure and I don't think anyone here is wether two is better or not but it seems to be better for some.
 
I've never used clomid so i can't speak to it but I have used Nolva several times with great success and no sides or issues. I also recommend it to anyone looking for a good pct.
 
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