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M1A cycle log. First cycle.

Texasflexin33

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Hey guys! I will start by saying I'm 21. I've been competing for about 4 years now. I've been around bodybuilding since I was a child and although this is my first cycle, Ive been around PEDs my entire life. Dad played ball, momma won bodybuilding shows. I'm 5 foot 5, and I started the cycle at 175 7-8% bodyfat. I go to a college with a bod pod so I'm not throwing around bull****. I'm fully aware how lean that is, I just have an insane metabolism and I train for long periods of time.
I always said for my first cycle "I'm just gonna do test". I wanted to see what I could do with a TRT dose due to what I've accomplished on stage naturally, I feel like that would still help quite a bit. Instead I listened to my manager at the supps shop I work at (not mentioning the shop cuz that would make this seem bias). We have an M1A clone that is unreal. I've never seen an OTC product give our customers gains this great, without ANY complaints about sides. Maybe a little acne here and there. I was so skeptical I watched about 150 bottles get sold and read as many reviews as possible. I did not hear one bad review, so I decided **** it.

Like I said I started the cycle at 175 and 4 weeks in I'm 192. I'm Leaner. I get more boners than I did when I was a 6th grader in math class with a student teacher. It's weird. I was planning on stopping at 4 weeks because everything I've read about M1A says it's super harsh. However I got my liver checked 2 days ago and I'm Gucci. My sex drive is booming! I've been with the same person for 4 years so trust me I can tell. The only sides I've noticed are a little acne, increased appetite, and I get mad as a mother ****er. I already struggle with my temper but jeez, this is no joke. I always thought roid rage was a myth. Lol.

Anyways, I'm gonna go for 2 more weeks here are some other facts.
1) I'm taking half the rec. dose (20 mgs)
2) my cycle support is a product we carry. NAC, milk thistle, Tudca, sawpalmettto, red yeast rice.
3) I'm also taking fish oils, multi, coq10, and niacin.
4) diet is about 5500 calories split in 8 meals a day. Gallon of water a day. I eat what I cook/ kill. Lots of chicken, eggs, venison, axis deer, fish, and beef. I also like to eat very high fats. Generally above 200-240gs

THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS POST- not all clones are created equally. For example, if you look up super DMZ you will find tons of logs where people had sides. However our DMZ is a 100% different experience that the super DMZ, plus we've never had a customer have a hard time bouncing back after a cycle. I think Incorrect info, and sketch ball supp companies give these compounds a horrible name, and unless you have witness over 100 people take an otc compound, than I would always say don't go the otc route, unless you get stuff from Olympus. All my friends who run real gear still trust Olympus orals, and sarms. Also I'm not trying to promote the company I work for. I'm a low level sales associate I could give a **** about our company. I'm just making a point. Plus we sell them for a million dollars a bottle so you prolly wouldn't want to buy it anyways!

If you want to jump along for the ride, I have 2 more weeks on cycle then 4 weeks of clomid/ nolva! Wish me luck
 
Ok guys lil update action for ya. Sitting at 191-192. Cleaning up the diet for the last 2 weeks of the cycle. I'm gonna keep the calories high, I'm just going to do it with foods I would typically eat on prep. Sex drive is still boomin. Overall alpha feeling is certainly still there. Only sides I've noticed is night time bloating and rowdy ass back pumps. I do a lot of squats, and deads so the back pumps suck dick, but I move my big lifts to the end of the workouts, and I take taurine with my aminos so it's gotten a little better. The bloat comes and goes, I'm staying lean overall but my stomach literally looks prego at night after my last meal lol. Nothing some sea salt and 32 oz of mineral water can't handle.
 
Oh, and if anyone has experiences with M1A I'd love to hear it! Seems the compound is different than what I've seen written about it online.
 
wesb2387 said:
M1A's one of my favorites. If it's legit you'll get an easy 10-12lbs and strength should increase a bit. Kinda "wet" also. I wouldn't go much higher then 20mg , I think I did 40mg tops.
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This^^ it's an underrated compound. It's right up there with Methyl-1-test in my experience.
 
I agree!!! I think M1A is very under rated. I also think companies that aren't making real M1A give it a bad name. I don't agree with it, but I've seen so so many people run this M1A clone for 8 weeks with no issues. Comes down to the person, the clone, and the support I suppose.
 
It ain't fun until you hit about 45mg/day. 60mg starts acting like SD and Anadrol combined but without the nasty sides, other than elevated BP.

But I keep BP under control. 4 days on, 3 days off works pretty well for me.
 
That makes a lot of sense!!! I decided to end the cycle, because "why push it". I feel great. Haven't lost any gains, certainly feel tighter since the blot has left. I went and got bloods down and kidney proteins were high nothing crazy. Liver enzymes were just barely elevated which I was delightfully surprised. My BP was high, but I went 3 days later (yesterday) and my BP was back to 120/70something. Everything thing else looks good. what you said makes sense about it getting rowdy at a high dose. I don't know if I'll ever take that compound for more than 40 tbh. Also, have you heard of anyone having kidney pain at the end of an M1A cycle? I had 3 tell me they had kidney pain after doing an M1A clone from s different company. Anyone else heard of a connection between kidney issues and M1A?
 
fueledpassion said:
It ain't fun until you hit about 45mg/day. 60mg starts acting like SD and Anadrol combined but without the nasty sides, other than elevated BP.

But I keep BP under control. 4 days on, 3 days off works pretty well for me.
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Totally agree. Was on 60 for three weeks. Felt just like SD but I wasn’t run down/lethargic. Hope you’re using a wrist BP cuff. Guys with big arms always show falsely high BP with regular sized cuffs. Could add 5-10 to your readings.
 
Did you run 20mgs from beginning? Nice cycle man! I think Alpha 1 is best "otc" grey market compound available still!
 
Yes I only ran 20mg. I've always been taught to use as little as possible and I've been studying PEDs for YEARS so I wanted to make sure I was doing everyone on my end as far as training and diet to maximize that 20mgs for sure. It panned out, I feel great! Thanks btw!!!
 
That's a good point. I never even thought about that. My Dads current wife is a Doc so I just walk up in there and get everything checked all the time.i totally abuse that privilege. I will talk to her about the wrist cuff. Thanks bro
 
I respect the question brother, but bodybuilding is my life. Ive trained blood and guts since I was quite young. I go above and beyond to take care of my health. If I end up on TRT so be it. As far as the other possibilities I do everything in my power to negate them or minimize them. If i wasn't preparing for a national show then I wouldn't think PEDs are worth it or necessary. However 20mg of M1A for 4 weeks was risk I was willing to take and I'm glad I did. Do I think the average 21 year old should take PEDs? Fck no. I don't think the average anyone should take PEDs. ANYONE can look amazing naturally. If you want to be an ifbb pro, well you may have to cross a line.
 
fueledpassion said:
It ain't fun until you hit about 45mg/day. 60mg starts acting like SD and Anadrol combined but without the nasty sides, other than elevated BP.

But I keep BP under control. 4 days on, 3 days off works pretty well for me.
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You take m1a 4 days a week then 3 days off ?
 
dvw said:
You take m1a 4 days a week then 3 days off ?
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Yes, I have. But this was at 45-60mg/day. If I were to run it straight thru, I'd probably do 15-30mg/day for 4-6 weeks.

Or I'd really have to get bloods done to make sure I was handling the higher doses fine.
 
Smont said:
Don't think that's what he means

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Well Actually I have done it this way to just get the benefits of the strength but without the sides or excessive weight gain...

It's strong enough to where you can pulse this one with decent results. TBH, I like trying things that others say isn't possible or effective just to see for myself (within the bounds of what might be considered sensible and safe)

I wouldn't bother doing it this way with less potent compounds and I wouldn't bother with less than 40-45mg/day either.
 
fueledpassion said:
Well Actually I have done it this way to just get the benefits of the strength but without the sides or excessive weight gain...

It's strong enough to where you can pulse this one with decent results. TBH, I like trying things that others say isn't possible or effective just to see for myself (within the bounds of what might be considered sensible and safe)

I wouldn't bother doing it this way with less potent compounds and I wouldn't bother with less than 40-45mg/day either.
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Would definitely increase glycogen stores, likely increase in creatine-phosphate stores also, and increased neural activity. Deff good for strength pulsed as you obviously knew lol.
 
fueledpassion said:
Well Actually I have done it this way to just get the benefits of the strength but without the sides or excessive weight gain...

It's strong enough to where you can pulse this one with decent results. TBH, I like trying things that others say isn't possible or effective just to see for myself (within the bounds of what might be considered sensible and safe)

I wouldn't bother doing it this way with less potent compounds and I wouldn't bother with less than 40-45mg/day either.
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So like the 4 days you train or 4 in a row then 3 off

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Smont said:
So like the 4 days you train or 4 in a row then 3 off

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4 days on, 3 off. Since I hit each bodypart multiple times per week, I let the dosing schedule drift sometimes to 5/2 or 3/2 to give the love to all of my routines, since each workout I'm taking different approaches. I'm always on a dab of test or test/mast, so I really don't run my training schedule around this drug. Last time I did it, I was training a full leg workout (of 16-20 sets) 3 times per week. I took this to help recover more quickly during the M-Th part of my routine, which was Legs, Chest, Legs, Back... And then by Friday it built up enough to coast thru weekend.

The other reason I did it this way is because I generally lose my appetite on aromatizing and/or strong methyls, such as D-Bol, SD or M1A. Part of that is probably due to elevated estrogen but the other reason is liver stress.

So this method allowed me to get the training benefits of legs three times per week but not be sore and tired at the same time.
 
I have had several people ask me about my kidneys towards the end of cycle. Mine felt normal, are kidney issues common with M1A? Maybe people don't drink enough water while on cycle, I'm not sure. Has anyone found a connection between kidney issues and M1A?
 
Texasflexin33 said:
I have had several people ask me about my kidneys towards the end of cycle. Mine felt normal, are kidney issues common with M1A? Maybe people don't drink enough water while on cycle, I'm not sure. Has anyone found a connection between kidney issues and M1A?
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Who was asking specifically? In general I have found that most of the discussion about orals and kidneys to not have much merit unless you have a Pre existing condition. However, the liver and kidneys are somewhat related as when the liver fails the kidneys aren’t far behind. But that has nothing to do with this obviously..dehydration can definitely tax the kidneys though, as can rhabdo from training too hard. But that tends to be from intense endurance bouts and not lifting sessions.

But in general people tend to think the kidneys can’t even handle a high protein diet, which has been debunked many times..but people still believe it.
 
Also something I forgot to say is that when people get lower back pumps or cramps they sometimes think that this is a kidney issue. When in reality it is a musculoskeletal problem and not kidney related. So that could be where someone might think kidneys if they were to get back pumps often. But that ties back to staying hydrated as being paramount.
 
bigdavid said:
Who was asking specifically? In general I have found that most of the discussion about orals and kidneys to not have much merit unless you have a Pre existing condition. However, the liver and kidneys are somewhat related as when the liver fails the kidneys aren’t far behind. But that has nothing to do with this obviously..dehydration can definitely tax the kidneys though, as can rhabdo from training too hard. But that tends to be from intense endurance bouts and not lifting sessions.

But in general people tend to think the kidneys can’t even handle a high protein diet, which has been debunked many times..but people still believe it.
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Ok that makes sense. I had 1 person pm me, and 2 different customers that for M1A from smoothie king said they had kidney issues. 2 of them said they thought they were passing a kidney stone. Anyways I'm just a paranoid person and I didn't do anything special for my kidneys and I had no issues. Thanks
 
Texasflexin33 said:
Ok that makes sense. I had 1 person pm me, and 2 different customers that for M1A from smoothie king said they had kidney issues. 2 of them said they thought they were passing a kidney stone. Anyways I'm just a paranoid person and I didn't do anything special for my kidneys and I had no issues. Thanks
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Well to be honest the propensity to form kidney stones in the population is not incredibly low, so anyone who might be predisposed to this may definitely have recurrence of kidney stones or even have them for the first time. But that is from dehydration mostly like said above. But when I say “preexisting condition”, just because someone hasn’t had a symptomatic kidney stone doesn’t mean they don’t have them or won’t get symptoms in the future. I’d consider those individuals to have inherent kidney problems and part of that argument.
 
bigdavid said:
Well to be honest the propensity to form kidney stones in the population is not incredibly low, so anyone who might be predisposed to this may definitely have recurrence of kidney stones or even have them for the first time. But that is from dehydration mostly like said above. But when I say “preexisting condition”, just because someone hasn’t had a symptomatic kidney stone doesn’t mean they don’t have them or won’t get symptoms in the future. I’d consider those individuals to have inherent kidney problems and part of that argument.
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That makes a lot of sense. I appreciate that break down brother
 
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