HCG and Clomid Pct

[Bcon]

Hey guys I was running test c at 500 mg a week for like 16 weeks I know a long time I just took my last shot 6 days ago. I plan to start running clomid in 8 days. I was wondering if I could get my hands on HCG today if that would be a good idea to run I heard you can run it was a bridge til you start your PCT. I would get 5000ius. Do you guys thing this is a good idea and let me know on dosing and when I should stop the HCG. Thank you!!

 

[CatSnake]

Hey guys I was running test c at 500 mg a week for like 16 weeks I know a long time I just took my last shot 6 days ago. I plan to start running clomid in 8 days. I was wondering if I could get my hands on HCG today if that would be a good idea to run I heard you can run it was a bridge til you start your PCT. I would get 5000ius. Do you guys thing this is a good idea and let me know on dosing and when I should stop the HCG. Thank you!!

if you can get it today, then I'd run HCG 500IU's EOD for a couple weeks. then jump on the clomid (25 mg/day) for at least 6 weeks... maybe even 8 (or more).

 

[pureice739]

1000iu hcg eod for 10 days which is 5000iu. Then start Clomid 100mg first week and 50mg for two more weeks make sure to take arimidex or letro with Clomid so thAt your estrogen doesn't sky rocket

 

[Nac]

1000iu hcg eod for 10 days which is 5000iu. Then start Clomid 100mg first week and 50mg for two more weeks make sure to take arimidex or letro with Clomid so thAt your estrogen doesn't sky rocket

Dude theres no need or benefit to dosing clomid over 50mg; 100mg is outdated nonsense. The studies show 25-50mg as totally adequate. Id agree with catsnake's approach: dose moderately and for longer as opposed to a short full-on blast of clomid.

 

[FRITZBLITZ]

Dude theres no need or benefit to dosing clomid over 50mg; 100mg is outdated nonsense. The studies show 25-50mg as totally adequate. Id agree with catsnake's approach: dose moderately and for longer as opposed to a short full-on blast of clomid.

I second that. You are only getting side effects over 50mg. I only run 50mg/25/25/12.5/12.5 eod and get great results.

 

[bigdavid]

What is the half life of clomid? Maybe a day or two of preloading just so he starts with higher clomid plasma concentrations

Ex: day1:150 day2:100 day3+:50. Then eventually 25?

 

[CatSnake]

What is the half life of clomid? Maybe a day or two of preloading just so he starts with higher clomid plasma concentrations

Ex: day1:150 day2:100 day3+:50. Then eventually 25?

it's like 5 days.

no reason to preload.... you don't want a rapid spike in LH and testosterone, really. you want a steady and gradual increase to pre-cycle levels. a rapid increase leads to a rapid increase in aromatization...

 

[bigdavid]

it's like 5 days.

no reason to preload.... you don't want a rapid spike in LH and testosterone, really. you want a steady and gradual increase to pre-cycle levels. a rapid increase leads to a rapid increase in aromatization...

Yeah I guess that is true for clomid. I personally find that torem works best for me preloaded. But I’m very estrogen sensitive and torem has a higher inhibitory affect on breast tissue so it balances out I guess. Same with nolva

 

[Bcon]

1000iu hcg eod for 10 days which is 5000iu. Then start Clomid 100mg first week and 50mg for two more weeks make sure to take arimidex or letro with Clomid so thAt your estrogen doesn't sky rocket

Ok so I will start taking the HCG today at 1000 ius it has been 8 days since I last took test if I take 1000 Ius eod when should I start my 50 mg of clomid? I was going to run 50mg ed for 14 days then 25mg for 14 days

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Yeah I guess that is true for clomid. I personally find that torem works best for me preloaded. But I’m very estrogen sensitive and torem has a higher inhibitory affect on breast tissue so it balances out I guess. Same with nolva

Pre load (or dose clomid high above 25mg ed imo) is just going to make the cis-isomer hit a serum concentration quicker which will bring about all the ****ty lingering side effects. Not to mention ramping lh and fsh to counter-productively high levels.

Lower dose and longer duration is your best bet, when it comes to clomid.

 

[bigdavid]

Pre load (or dose clomid high above 25mg ed imo) is just going to make the cis-isomer hit a terminal serum concentration quicker and bring about all the ****ty lingering side effects. Not to mention ramping lh and fsh to counter-productively high levels.

Lower dose and longer duration is your best bet, when it comes to clomid.

Yeah I have personally never ran clomid, always did a good dose of nolva or torem, so wasn't sure. Thanks for the reasoning.

 

[FRITZBLITZ]

Ok so I will start taking the HCG today at 1000 ius it has been 8 days since I last took test if I take 1000 Ius eod when should I start my 50 mg of clomid? I was going to run 50mg ed for 14 days then 25mg for 14 days

You don't need that much HCG or clomid. a good high dose of HCG is 500iu e3d anymore and you desensitize your leydigs [the little part that creates testosterone] and do more harm than good as for clomid you can bunch it into a month but I prefer lower doses for longer, I like 6 weeks

 

[Bcon]

What are your thoughts on running mk 2866 during pct for only 4 weeks?? I have a bottle I got for free and I heard it helps your body not go catabolic and is not suppressive at 4 weeks or less

 

[bigdavid]

What are your thoughts on running mk 2866 during pct for only 4 weeks?? I have a bottle I got for free and I heard it helps your body not go catabolic and is not suppressive at 4 weeks or less

Eh this topic is somewhat controversial but I’d say 7/10 people would say don’t do it. And likely 2/3 of the ones that say go for it are selling it lol.

But I’d say don’t do it. Not being suppressive at small doses with normal test levels is not the same as not being suppressive when you are already completely suppressed. If your goal is to recover LH/FSH And Test to normal levels I’d say no.. if you plan to just go back on a cycle after the 4 weeks I guess it doesn’t matter. But that probably is not your plan and I wouldn’t recommend that anyway.

 

[CatSnake]

Eh this topic is somewhat controversial but I’d say 7/10 people would say don’t do it. And likely 2/3 of the ones that say go for it are selling it lol.

But I’d say don’t do it. Not being suppressive at small doses with normal test levels is not the same as not being suppressive when you are already completely suppressed. If your goal is to recover LH/FSH And Test to normal levels I’d say no.. if you plan to just go back on a cycle after the 4 weeks I guess it doesn’t matter. But that probably is not your plan and I wouldn’t recommend that anyway.

^yup.

 

[Bcon]

Eh this topic is somewhat controversial but I’d say 7/10 people would say don’t do it. And likely 2/3 of the ones that say go for it are selling it lol.

But I’d say don’t do it. Not being suppressive at small doses with normal test levels is not the same as not being suppressive when you are already completely suppressed. If your goal is to recover LH/FSH And Test to normal levels I’d say no.. if you plan to just go back on a cycle after the 4 weeks I guess it doesn’t matter. But that probably is not your plan and I wouldn’t recommend that anyway.

Alright I'll just hold onto the bottle. Ya I plan on staying off cycle for at least 4 months. I just want to help my body recover fast and not lose too much of my gains. Any recommendations or anything I should add to the HCG and clomid??

 

[FRITZBLITZ]

Alright I'll just hold onto the bottle. Ya I plan on staying off cycle for at least 4 months. I just want to help my body recover fast and not lose too much of my gains. Any recommendations or anything I should add to the HCG and clomid??

Somatozine is been proven by alot of vets to be amazing. Mk677 is good for keeping gains when you stay on it for 3+ months but Somatozine is on a whole new level. Then Add 100mg zink, 5000iu D3, and I like Tongkat Ali 200:1 extract at 900mg