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SUGAR!!!

Punkrocker

Punkrocker

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Okay look we all know that sugar is the spawn of Satan so here's my question. I drink Greek frappe which is a delicious coffee but I only like it sweet(4 teaspoons of sugar yikes). I only drink black coffee now but on a cheat day I will have it. I work as a trash man literally running down the street all day flinging barrels and burning calories. If I drink my sweet Greek frappe every morning before work, is it ok because I'm literally gonna be running my ass off for the next 6-8 hours? Or is sugar poison no matter what and even if I do strenuous work im still wrecking my body with sugar. Opinions?
 
Unless your making a living at bodybuilding then enjoy your life. If that ***gy frappe is your biggest worry for the day then your doing just fine. 4 tsp of sugar is not going to kill you. **** I think there's 40tsp in a can of coke
 
Spiking your insulin before a lot of exercise will inhibit the fat burning potential of said exercise
 
Smont said:
Unless your making a living at bodybuilding then enjoy your life. If that ***gy frappe is your biggest worry for the day then your doing just fine. 4 tsp of sugar is not going to kill you. **** I think there's 40tsp in a can of coke
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Truth!
 
Smont said:
And worrying about 4tsp of suger will inhibit living a normal life
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Well I'm trying to follow a Paleo diet. I make exceptions for feta cheese and peanut butter here and there but mainly I wanna try to stay as natural as possible. So 4 tsp sugar isint really good, but like you say I wanna enjoy my life
 
Punkrocker said:
Well I'm trying to follow a Paleo diet. I make exceptions for feta cheese and peanut butter here and there but mainly I wanna try to stay as natural as possible. So 4 tsp sugar isint really good, but like you say I wanna enjoy my life
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I got issues with the Paleo diet. For 1 they only lived to be like 30 back then. 2 why are whole grains bad? 3 drink your frappe and go to work
 
Punkrocker said:
I'll be at work for 6 to 8 hours. Isn't that ok?
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Given what you're doing it won't make too much of a difference. Keep in mind that a lot of ppl purposefully spike their insulin with simple carbs after every workout .
You could offset the sugar by reducing the carb load of your breakfast and adding a lil more slow digesting protein and/or fibre
 
u_e_s_i said:
Given what you're doing it won't make too much of a difference. Keep in mind that a lot of ppl purposefully spike their insulin with simple carbs after every workout .
You could offset the sugar by reducing the carb load of your breakfast and adding a lil more slow digesting protein and/or fibre
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My breakfast is boiled eggs with potatoes and cottage cheese. So that could slow down the carb release and cause less of an insulin spike?
 
Smont said:
I got issues with the Paleo diet. For 1 they only lived to be like 30 back then. 2 why are whole grains bad? 3 drink your frappe and go to work
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Pretty solid advice although I'm gonna have to stand with the whole grains being bad though
 
If your super worried I think I read something about how adding cinnamon to fast carbs controls blood sugar
 
Smont said:
Only if you have that gluten intolerance which only 2% of ppl really have
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Actually I do have celiac disease. My mom has it too. Also my great grandmother died young of some weird stomach issue that they never could figure out. So I'm gonna assume she was celiac too
 
Punkrocker said:
Actually I do have celiac disease. My mom has it too. Also my great grandmother died young of some weird stomach issue that they never could figure out. So I'm gonna assume she was celiac too
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That's crazy. My neice has it and she looked 3 until she was 9 and they figured out she had it, then she grew like 16" in a year when they changed her diet. Most ppl just herd about it and say they do. I got a guy who comes in my bar and swears if there's gluten in his food he will die! And stresses it. But has a bttl of red wine with his meal which contains gluten
 
Smont said:
That's crazy. My neice has it and she looked 3 until she was 9 and they figured out she had it, then she grew like 16" in a year when they changed her diet. Most ppl just herd about it and say they do. I got a guy who comes in my bar and swears if there's gluten in his food he will die! And stresses it. But has a bttl of red wine with his meal which contains gluten
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If I eat gluten once, usually I don't have any immediate symptoms. But if I start eating it daily consistently, my immune system goes to **** and I start breaking out in cold sores and staph infections all over my skin. Doctors originally suspected AIDS!!! LOL imagine a doctor telling you that you could have AIDS and then do a bunch of blood work and you walk around for 3 days thinking you're dying of AIDS and then they're like "lol jk bro, you just can't eat bread" lol
 
Lol. Well Ive got a yeast allergy and I still eat bread and drink beer but if I go overboard I get dry skin and weird rash on my eyelids. It sucks but I'll deal with it and u can keep your aids
 
TBH dude your body will run through that sugar so fast it won't really matter. If you are trying to follow something like carb backloading then yes it would be a good idea, but if not you'll be fine.

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hambone2493 said:
TBH dude your body will run through that sugar so fast it won't really matter. If you are trying to follow something like carb backloading then yes it would be a good idea, but if not you'll be fine.

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So you don't think I'll be setting myself up for diabetes in the future?
 
Smont said:
Who would have thought a sugar thread would be so popular
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Well when you think about it, there's alot to be talked about. But I really wanna drink frappe every morning before work. Man that would be so awesome. I would totally look forward to my mornings.
 
Anyways my diet mainly cosists of eggs and boiled potatoes, hamburger Patty and potatoes for lunch. Steak and potatoes and vegetables for dinner and random fruit like some bananas or apples with peanut butter for snacks. So the only crap I intake would be the sweet delicious frappe
 
Drink the damn mochafrappalate and go to work dude. You're going to be fine, if anything I'd be more worried about estrogen rebound from gayness of that coffee ?
 
Smont said:
Drink the damn mochafrappalate and go to work dude. You're going to be fine, if anything I'd be more worried about estrogen rebound from gayness of that coffee ��
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Greek frappe is the most manly drink in the world. It literally cures AIDS because it's so not gay
 
Punkrocker said:
My breakfast is boiled eggs with potatoes and cottage cheese. So that could slow down the carb release and cause less of an insulin spike?
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The cottage cheese would be good for slowing down the sugars. Just make an effort to start your breakfast before you start drinking your frappe. If you start feeling guilty, you could mix some konjac or psyllium husks into the cottage cheese
 
u_e_s_i said:
The cottage cheese would be good for slowing down the sugars. Just make an effort to start your breakfast before you start drinking your frappe. If you start feeling guilty, you could mix some konjac or psyllium husks into the cottage cheese
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I always eat my breakfast first and then I have my coffee
 
lol it's a sweet coffee... add to your macros and go about your day! If you were like "is it ok to eat a big bowl of lucky charms with some sugar on and drink 2l of Coke for breakfast" I'd probably say you need to rethink your life, that would probably set you up for diabetes haha
 
Punkrocker said:
Pretty solid advice although I'm gonna have to stand with the whole grains being bad though
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Whole grains are you considering rice and oats being a whole grain or just pasta? Sorry for the stupid question but if you consider rice and oats being non paleoic look at gladiators who are porridge.
 
JCR97 said:
Whole grains are you considering rice and oats being a whole grain or just pasta? Sorry for the stupid question but if you consider rice and oats being non paleoic look at gladiators who are porridge.
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White rice is ok, but Brown has that outter shell that irritates your intestines. Yeah oats suck too
 
JCR97 said:
Whole grains are you considering rice and oats being a whole grain or just pasta? Sorry for the stupid question but if you consider rice and oats being non paleoic look at gladiators who are porridge.
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Ummmm
Not going to weigh in at all on the merits of paleo eating, but as a history teacher, I have to correct your blatant anachronism
Gladiators ate their porridge about 10,000 years after the Paleolithic era ended.
 
scherbs said:
Ummmm
Not going to weigh in at all on the merits of paleo eating, but as a history teacher, I have to correct your blatant anachronism
Gladiators ate their porridge about 10,000 years after the Paleolithic era ended.
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Haha I wasn't referring to the Paleolithic era my bad I'm terrible in history to begin with I'm more of a science type guy and I know that genetic mutation takes 100000s of years before making a significant impact on how our system works which in this case hasn't taken long enough (homo erectus to Homo sapiens somewhere in the 100k years ago I believe correct me if I am wrong) which is why I believe that the Paleo diet has merit in the fact if we eat what has been encoded into our DNA (what our ancestors eat Homo sapiens) it will be the most beneficial in terms of bodybuilding and healthy living. Although like everything you have to pick and choose from a little bit of everywhere and construct your own theories which as a history teacher you probably do try to tell us college students or high school or whatever level of institution! That's why I brought up porridge. I don't mean to come off as rude or anything I just wanted to express my opinion and thought on the Paléo diet because like op believes in we didn't eat a lot of sugar like that 1000 years ago
 
JCR97 said:
Haha I wasn't referring to the Paleolithic era my bad I'm terrible in history to begin with I'm more of a science type guy and I know that genetic mutation takes 100000s of years before making a significant impact on how our system works which in this case hasn't taken long enough (homo erectus to Homo sapiens somewhere in the 100k years ago I believe correct me if I am wrong) which is why I believe that the Paleo diet has merit in the fact if we eat what has been encoded into our DNA (what our ancestors eat Homo sapiens) it will be the most beneficial in terms of bodybuilding and healthy living. Although like everything you have to pick and choose from a little bit of everywhere and construct your own theories which as a history teacher you probably do try to tell us college students or high school or whatever level of institution! That's why I brought up porridge. I don't mean to come off as rude or anything I just wanted to express my opinion and thought on the Paléo diet because like op believes in we didn't eat a lot of sugar like that 1000 years ago
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HS and college-both.
You are on the right track with time needed for any appreciable impact of a genetic mutation with respect to dietary impact.
Paleo, however, has too many fatal flaws for me to consider it a reasonable diet approach:
1) it has a fairly arbitrary and strict set of standards (what our ancestors supposedly ate) for which to deem a food "good" (and the notion of good food/bad food is flawed in and of itself)
2) it is based on a flawed anthropology of our ancestors-what did they really eat? Did they avoid legumes (no)? Etc
3) our paleo ancestors were lucky to see 20 years of age. Not sure I'd consider them the paragon of dietetic health
4) the diet ignores epigenetics: our environment has changed our genome. Even if we could identify the ideal diet that "worked" for our caveman forebearers, we are no longer genetically in the same lineage as them-what makes us think it will "work" for us

I could go on and on
 
scherbs said:
HS and college-both.
You are on the right track with time needed for any appreciable impact of a genetic mutation with respect to dietary impact.
Paleo, however, has too many fatal flaws for me to consider it a reasonable diet approach:
1) it has a fairly arbitrary and strict set of standards (what our ancestors supposedly ate) for which to deem a food "good" (and the notion of good food/bad food is flawed in and of itself)
2) it is based on a flawed anthropology of our ancestors-what did they really eat? Did they avoid legumes (no)? Etc
3) our paleo ancestors were lucky to see 20 years of age. Not sure I'd consider them the paragon of dietetic health
4) the diet ignores epigenetics: our environment has changed our genome. Even if we could identify the ideal diet that "worked" for our caveman forebearers, we are no longer genetically in the same lineage as them-what makes us think it will "work" for us

I could go on and on
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That's very true never thought about it that way. Although it has flaws it is a good way of keeping your foods clean (i.e not eating McDonald's) haha.
 
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