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Donald Trump running for president

hanslifts said:
I am hellbent on you having an opinion. Im hellbent on you voting. But now that Im not in anymore, I can express my opinions now too. But if you are going to develop an opinion on something you obviously know nothing about, I really encourage you go talk to veterans, talk to currently serving Soldiers, Airmen, Sailors and Marines. You might learn a thing or too. After all, there's plenty of uneducated *******s with opinions, but there are very few that actually know what they're talking about, which in turn actually makes their opinion valid.
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Are you saying Soldiers, Airmen, Sailors, etc.....all share the same opinions? Are you claiming even all of them know what they are talking about? Are you claiming they all have the same biases, levels of understanding and education levels?

I would say all of them do have valuable experiences you can pick up from them from their own perspective, and its certainly good to pick up things from them but you cant claim that even they all know what they are talking about. They can share their perspective and its good to listen. However, when I see soldiers being interviewed who are protecting opium poppy fields and farmers, even handing them over our tax dollars because they feel bad because the Taliban destroyed their crops...even admitting helping them export them to drug dealers saying all is well and this is best for protecting Americans, something isnt right with at least some of them!
 
ax1 said:
Are you saying Soldiers, Airmen, Sailors, etc.....all share the same opinions? Are you claiming even all of them know what they are talking about? Are you claiming they all have the same biases, levels of understanding and education levels?

I would say all of them do have valuable experiences you can pick up from them from their own perspective, and its certainly good to pick up things from them but you cant claim that even they all know what they are talking about. They can share their perspective and its good to listen. However, when I see soldiers being interviewed who are protecting opium poppy fields and farmers, even handing them over our tax dollars because they feel bad because the Taliban destroyed their crops...even admitting helping them export them to drug dealers saying all is well and this is best for protecting Americans, something isnt right with at least some of them!
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the military voted 3 to 1 for trump...just sayin.
 
thebigt said:
the military voted 3 to 1 for trump...just sayin.
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Thats assuming they counted them all, could be much more....they havent even counted Ron Paul's votes from 08 and 12!!!!!!!!!! Ron had alot of support from our Military.

Have you ever seen this video where the Shadow Government hacked CNN and cut off our soldier in the middle of his interview as soon as he started talking about being against preemptive wars? This shyt just doesnt normally happen.


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ax1 said:
Thats assuming they counted them all, could be much more....they havent even counted Ron Paul's votes from 08 and 12!!!!!!!!!! Ron had alot of support from our Military.

Have you ever seen this video where the Shadow Government hacked CNN and cut off our soldier in the middle of his interview as soon as he started talking about being against preemptive wars? This shyt just doesnt normally happen.


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10 years in and only a cpl?
 
hanslifts said:
Oh nice. Guard here so we always were a little slower than everybody else. Unless you had a critical skills MOS, or picked up deployments left and right.
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right, I wore the chevron for a year and a half before I got the pay. i'm sure things have probably changed since the late 70's-mid 80's.
 
thebigt said:
right, I wore the chevron for a year and a half before I got the pay. i'm sure things have probably changed since the late 70's-mid 80's.
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Damn! Yeah, lots has changed. Direct deposit, college credit for "stripes" all kinds of things. But it's changed a lot too since I got out in 2006.
 
hanslifts said:
Damn! Yeah, lots has changed. Direct deposit, college credit for "stripes" all kinds of things. But it's changed a lot too since I got out in 2006.
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even the gi bill has changed...I don't know of the differences but the gi bill I was covered by is now called the 'old' gi bill, so obviously changes have been made-in my experience change is rarely for the better.
 
some people are thinkers/talkers....GEN. JOHN KELLY is a do'er...
 
thebigt said:
even the gi bill has changed...I don't know of the differences but the gi bill I was covered by is now called the 'old' gi bill, so obviously changes have been made-in my experience change is rarely for the better.
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Yeah, some changes were made and some additional components were added too, like the Post-9/11 GI Bill, which specifically benefited you if you deployed. But then Obama came along and made some changes for the worse. Like you have 15 years to pass on your Post-9/12 GI Bill benefits to your child. So what if you didn't even have a child yet when you deployed? In my case, she will be 5 when certain benefits expire. Thanks Obama.
 
hanslifts said:
Yeah, some changes were made and some additional components were added too, like the Post-9/11 GI Bill, which specifically benefited you if you deployed. But then Obama came along and made some changes for the worse. Like you have 15 years to pass on your Post-9/12 GI Bill benefits to your child. So what if you didn't even have a child yet when you deployed? In my case, she will be 5 when certain benefits expire. Thanks Obama.
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You also cant use any of it, if you plan on passing it on. I used mine to get my masters, and had a little left over and was gonna give it to my oldest for her schooling, but they said no cause I already used some that I couldnt pass it on so that money just goes away if not used. But, Im obviously not gonna use it cause it would only cover 1 class of my doctorate.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
He's a does as he's told which is why he got the job. Would have made more sense to keep him in DHS.
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no doubt he was doing a great job at dhs...no argument there!!!


the way I see it everyone working for the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES should do as they are told by the PRESIDENT, right?
 
DemntedCowboy said:
You also cant use any of it, if you plan on passing it on. I used mine to get my masters, and had a little left over and was gonna give it to my oldest for her schooling, but they said no cause I already used some that I couldnt pass it on so that money just goes away if not used. But, Im obviously not gonna use it cause it would only cover 1 class of my doctorate.
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this is very different, I am not aware of being able to pass anything on under the Montgomery bill.
 
thebigt said:
no doubt he was doing a great job at dhs...no argument there!!!


the way I see it everyone working for the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES should do as they are told by the PRESIDENT, right?
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Not if it's illegal or unethical and not if they don't work for him. He's rarely trying to bully people in the government that actually are in the executive branch.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Not if it's illegal or unethical and not if they don't work for him. He's rarely trying to bully people in the government that actually are in the executive branch.
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Nah...illegal Aka unconstitutional is always the way it goes down from top to bottom. The entire system is illegal unethical unconstitutional filth.
 
ax1 said:
Nah...illegal Aka unconstitutional is always the way it goes down from top to bottom. The entire system is illegal unethical unconstitutional filth.
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Oh, I don't disagree with how it actually is. I was simply responding to how I think it should be. A lot of the decisions are made through influence by people who are not even government officials.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Not if it's illegal or unethical and not if they don't work for him. He's rarely trying to bully people in the government that actually are in the executive branch.
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I really wouldn't mind him doing some bullying if it meant getting results...when people say trump hasn't accomplished much I don't blame trump as much as I do other elected republicans. house and senate republicans up for re-election better be careful when primary time comes around, I think a lot of familiar faces might be gone.
 
DemntedCowboy said:
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big fan of allison transmission, their headquarters is in Indianapolis...a lot of guys I went to high school with had/have good [well paying] careers working there. they started at entry level and thru on the job training progressed in promotions--WITHOUT COLLEGE DEGREES!!
 
thebigt said:
I really wouldn't mind him doing some bullying if it meant getting results...when people say trump hasn't accomplished much I don't blame trump as much as I do other elected republicans. house and senate republicans up for re-election better be careful when primary time comes around, I think a lot of familiar faces might be gone.
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So you want a monarch?
 
thebigt said:
big fan of allison transmission, their headquarters is in Indianapolis...a lot of guys I went to high school with had/have good [well paying] careers working there. they started at entry level and thru on the job training progressed in promotions--WITHOUT COLLEGE DEGREES!!
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What exactly is your issue with college degrees?
 
Aleksandar37 said:
What exactly is your issue with college degrees?
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What is your problem, hes just stating that they improved in there job without one. Which hasnt happen now a days. Today it seems like you need a college degree to take a sh*t. I got a Masters degree and still dont get paid anywhere what I should be getting paid for what I did for my education.
 
DemntedCowboy said:
What is your problem, hes just stating that they improved in there job without one. Which hasnt happen now a days. Today it seems like you need a college degree to take a sh*t. I got a Masters degree and still dont get paid anywhere what I should be getting paid for what I did for my education.
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What is your problem? Are you his attorney now? I'm asking because he has made the comment many times before and I'm curious what is so wrong with a college degree and what he meant by the comment.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
I would ask some follow up questions, but your girlfriend is getting upset. Call me *wink wink*
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Look here bitch, I aint his attorney or his gf. I just dont like people attacking people for making a straightup comment. Seems like you are the one with issues. I served my country and defend any president. Even the ones I didnt vote for, and I will defend anyone else from morons making stupid accustations. Why dont you go hangout with heyboy
 
Aleksandar37 said:
What exactly is your issue with college degrees?
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Americans owe 1.4 trillion dollars in student debt, spread out over 44 million borrowers...the idea that everyone needs to go to college is ridiculous.

I am all for college training in the professional fields, but there are many, many jobs that company's could train people for with on the job training that a college degree would not be required for.

you have many kids fooled into thinking they need 4 years of college to earn less than $50,000 a year...how are they going to pay off their debt?
 
DemntedCowboy said:
Look here bitch, I aint his attorney or his gf. I just dont like people attacking people for making a straightup comment. Seems like you are the one with issues. I served my country and defend any president. Even the ones I didnt vote for, and I will defend anyone else from morons making stupid accustations. Why dont you go hangout with heyboy
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I asked a question. I stated that I did not make an accusation. I wasn't even talking to you and you didn't give him a chance to answer. If you want to have a circle jerk and post tranny memes like you're a 12 year old girl, rock on, but there are going to be other conversations that occur in this thread. They've been going on for a while.
 
thebigt said:
Americans owe 1.4 trillion dollars in student debt, spread out over 44 million borrowers...the idea that everyone needs to go to college is ridiculous.

I am all for college training in the professional fields, but there are many, many jobs that company's could train people for with on the job training that a college degree would not be required for.

you have many kids fooled into thinking they need 4 years of college to earn less than $50,000 a year...how are they going to pay off their debt?
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I don't disagree with you on any of that. Thank you for clarifying.
 
I can really see your point T. I waffle all the time about whether I needed 7 yrs of school to do what i do.

The easy answer should be no. The amount of formal education required to carry out a protocol is minimal. And the artistry of troubleshooting comes from experience, not the classroom.

The problem is that most big companies absolutely do not train their employees! I've seen directors fire potentially good workers on the 2nd day for not achieving productivity. That same director threw every new hire into the fire saying hurry up, regional is watchinh our numbers. We r totally screwed either way. Protect your business bc it's one of the rare scenarios where hard work can still pay off
 
hanslifts said:
I need to remember this because I was flipping out on Alex yesterday. I need to be a little more cordial. I guess just suppressing all of my frustrations for those years and Im a little frustrated. This issue hits home to me ad yhe military denied TRT because I was a few points high. Yet, girls started getting T shots, but they didn't actually need it. You can see the irony of the situation. Anyway, thanks for reminding me that this forum is supposed to be fun!
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Not to mention the VA has now stopped TRT all together. They will give you a VED, and Viagra but nothing else. For TRT you have to go to an outside doctor.
 
celc5 said:
I can really see your point T. I waffle all the time about whether I needed 7 yrs of school to do what i do.

The easy answer should be no. The amount of formal education required to carry out a protocol is minimal. And the artistry of troubleshooting comes from experience, not the classroom.

The problem is that most big companies absolutely do not train their employees! I've seen directors fire potentially good workers on the 2nd day for not achieving productivity. That same director threw every new hire into the fire saying hurry up, regional is watchinh our numbers. We r totally screwed either way. Protect your business bc it's one of the rare scenarios where hard work can still pay off
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around the 90's business protocol changed...1st change was from long term planning to short term-they would bring in a ceo for immediate results, that ceo would get short term results and then bail and not be around to pay the long term consequences-and this has become a revolving door policy, imo....actually it very closely resembles politics.

2nd..back in my day all companies gave proficiency tests before hiring entry level, if you didn't have the right skill set for advancement you weren't hired...once hired you had to learn the next job ahead of you [ojt] and when it became open you got a set amount of time to be able to advance or you were gone. it was 100% based on merit, in other words you had to earn it!!!
 
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