Clomid is ruining my life!

[Tank999]

Clomid always makes me feel like shizz. But now I'm doing 2x what I used to, and besides making me feel like a weepy school girl, I keep saying stupid stuff to people and getting into annoying long and boring drama at home and at work. Not good!

Last time this happened, I switched over completely to brundel stuff: rebirth/letrone/viron/exotherm/prolctrone
I felt better and it got everything stable and working pretty quickly.
I just finished a 90 day lgd/epi andro and 1 andro run...
Any opinions (other than no serm no cycle....as the serm is ruining my life!)
Greatly appreciated

 

[Afi140]

Nolva? Torem? Have you tried anything else?

 

[Tank999]

Nolva wasn't AS bad....

 

[jt75]

What kind of stupid stuff you been saying?

 

[Tank999]

What kind of stupid stuff you been saying?

Lol ....Just talking without a filter.....

 

[SFreed]

In to see Tank being a weepy school girl


Sorry man, I got nothing to help you. But, yeah. What I said ^^

 

[Tank999]

In to see Tank being a weepy school girl


Sorry man, I got nothing to help you. But, yeah. What I said ^^

You know when you really cross the line and you can't even apologize? I think in the last two days I totally destroyed the line with a few people....

 

[LAH813]

How high are you running it? Clo does the same ish to me. I vowed to only run Nolva or torem.

 

[Tank999]

How high are you running it? Clo does the same ish to me. I vowed to only run Nolva or torem.

50/50/25/25 was the plan

 

[SFreed]

I ran mine for 6 weeks 50 (for 3 days, then dropped it to 25) /25/25/25/12.5/12.5

50 had me spending the day wondering what I was missing on the Hallmark Channel

 

[Tank999]

I ran mine for 6 weeks 50 (for 3 days, then dropped it to 25) /25/25/25/12.5/12.5

50 had me spending the day wondering what I was missing on the Hallmark Channel

Exactly!

 

[rtmilburn]

Torem (doubt he will respond) Spurfy touched on this and said that the clomid is too strong the subtype of receptors it works on makes very prone to sides where as torem is the perfect balance

 

[hairygrandpa]

Clomid always makes me feel like shizz. But now I'm doing 2x what I used to, and besides making me feel like a weepy school girl, I keep saying stupid stuff to people and getting into annoying long and boring drama at home and at work. Not good!

Last time this happened, I switched over completely to brundel stuff: rebirth/letrone/viron/exotherm/prolctrone
I felt better and it got everything stable and working pretty quickly.
I just finished a 90 day lgd/epi andro and 1 andro run...
Any opinions (other than no serm no cycle....as the serm is ruining my life!)
Greatly appreciated

Torem or Nolva will do the trick too. Had no sides with them.
Had no sides at 200mg Clomid either, I swear!

 

[LAH813]

Torem (doubt he will respond) Spurfy touched on this and said that the clomid is too strong the subtype of receptors it works on makes very prone to sides where as torem is the perfect balance

Yeah torem is great but pricey and hard to find.

 

[LeanEngineer]

Me personally i like nolva better than clomid and it works better for me but everyone is different.

 

[nubioso]

I've only used Nolva myself....anywho...Your stack is pretty dry and all so this SHOULDN'T be the issue, but just tossing out ideas....have you run any sort of small dosage AI along with it? Only reason why I ask is because while the SERM will allow the estro to not bind so that you avoid the symptoms of gyno and the like, you still have it in your system. Too high of estro can lead to bouts of being emotional.

I read an article of a guy who cried over some movie and said once he got the estro under control he was able to look back and be like "Although it was a moving scene, WTF?!"

I can attest to that feeling lol. Ever throw in anything like 6.25mg of Exem? Super low dose just to see how it treats ya without drying out the joints?

 

[Tank999]

I've only used Nolva myself....anywho...Your stack is pretty dry and all so this SHOULDN'T be the issue, but just tossing out ideas....have you run any sort of small dosage AI along with it? Only reason why I ask is because while the SERM will allow the estro to not bind so that you avoid the symptoms of gyno and the like, you still have it in your system. Too high of estro can lead to bouts of being emotional.

I read an article of a guy who cried over some movie and said once he got the estro under control he was able to look back and be like "Although it was a moving scene, WTF?!"

I can attest to that feeling lol. Ever throw in anything like 6.25mg of Exem? Super low dose just to see how it treats ya without drying out the joints?

Good idea. I basically got it under control by now. I think it was more of the switch over to pct which freaks with my head....

 

[969c1]

I ran BLR as you mentioned also and it worked great for me. I would run it again. The Rebirh and Viron together for the first 2 weeks and then I added the Letrone in week 3 for 4 weeks. This way it was solo for the last 2 weeks.

 

[hairygrandpa]

How is your post-cycle strength?
I remember how I felt in PCT...

 

[Tank999]

How is your post-cycle strength?
I remember how I felt in PCT...

Still solid. Hoping to keep some of my gainz - it was a good one

 

[berazzled]

Run it with proviron and nolva.problem solved.

 

[rascal14]

Run it with proviron and nolva.problem solved.

Well that kind of defeats the purpose of PCT.

 

[berazzled]

No it doesnt at low dose 25

 

[SFreed]

Run it with proviron and nolva.problem solved.

Isn't Proviron a steroid?? (Mesterolone?)

 

[rascal14]

Isn't Proviron a steroid?? (Mesterolone?)

Yes, he never makes any sense.

 

[berazzled]

I dont have to make sense,but it does work. Prick!

 

[hairygrandpa]

I dont have to make sense,but it does work. Prick!

Heard from others doing it. Proviron -or Anavar low dose while PCT.
Lets say you recover your test levels faster without low dose roids.
With roids you recover more slowly but can hold onto the gains a bit better.

Both ways would be equal at the end of PCT, right?
Anyone?

 

[berazzled]

Exactly

 

[rascal14]

Heard from others doing it. Proviron -or Anavar low dose while PCT.
Lets say you recover your test levels faster without low dose roids.
With roids you recover more slowly but can hold onto the gains a bit better.

Both ways would be equal at the end of PCT, right?
Anyone?

Sure.. at the end of PCT. one being 4 weeks, the other dragging out until you decide to stop the steroid. Lol

Either way, adding Nolva and a steroid is literally the most idiotic advise I've ever heard when someone is already having a bad PCT with Clomid.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Sure.. at the end of PCT. one being 4 weeks, the other dragging out until you decide to stop the steroid. Lol

Either way, adding Nolva and a steroid is literally the most idiotic advise I've ever heard when someone is already having a bad PCT with Clomid.

Yep, sounds correct!
If you already suffer running clomid, you don't want to prolong PCT by adding a low dose roid.

As an old fugger who need no nuts anymore, I'm always "on", no more PCT for me, LOL.