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Epiandro question

maxdarsinos

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hello all!
i wanted to ask about epiandro, its dosage, and pct.
i am on cutting right now and i wanted to use a beginner PH. Do you think its good for cutting? should i choose 11-keto instead?
if yes what is the right dosage?
for pct should i use any SERM?

thanks
 
Dose epi 500mg to a gram daily. I would personally stack it with super-11 and do 250mg of that as well-and yes you need a serm.
 
Afi140 said:
Dose epi 500mg to a gram daily. I would personally stack it with super-11 and do 250mg of that as well-and yes you need a serm.
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Its gonna cost a lot with super 11 but i ll give it a try. So a nolva and super pct is ok for pct? Also how long shpuld the cycle be? 4 weeks? Epiandro alone is enough for cutting?
 
Nolva alone is good for pct. No need for sup3r pct wich is a nice addition but not needed.

Epiandro shines at above a gram and for you to feel it it takes a few weeks so I would not settle with a run shorter than 8 weeks.

The 11kt probably yieldsmore for cutting but does not provide the alpha attitude that much.

Stacking both is great but even either one alone is expensive.
 
Bunshichi said:
Nolva alone is good for pct. No need for sup3r pct wich is a nice addition but not needed.

Epiandro shines at above a gram and for you to feel it it takes a few weeks so I would not settle with a run shorter than 8 weeks.

The 11kt probably yieldsmore for cutting but does not provide the alpha attitude that much.

Stacking both is great but even either one alone is expensive.
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I ama 144 pounds. And 14% bf. I am ok with 1 gr of epi? 8 weeks with that? That means 4+ bottles. While with sup3r 11 ypu need two bottles
 
maxdarsinos said:
I ama 144 pounds. And 14% bf. I am ok with 1 gr of epi? 8 weeks with that? That means 4+ bottles. While with sup3r 11 ypu need two bottles
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I'd say a gram is fine even for a 50kilo male. High, but you want to dose it high.

Just start lower, see how it treats you, see its not enough, take higher dose.

Also its only two bottles of OL Sup3r Epi Elite.
 
Bunshichi said:
I'd say a gram is fine even for a 50kilo male. High, but you want to dose it high.

Just start lower, see how it treats you, see its not enough, take higher dose.

Also its only two bottles of OL Sup3r Epi Elite.
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Yes i may start with super 11 cause epi is veeery pricey for 1 gr per day.
 
Bunshichi said:
Nolva alone is good for pct. No need for sup3r pct wich is a nice addition but not needed.

Epiandro shines at above a gram and for you to feel it it takes a few weeks so I would not settle with a run shorter than 8 weeks.

The 11kt probably yieldsmore for cutting but does not provide the alpha attitude that much.

Stacking both is great but even either one alone is expensive.
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You ever try epiandro at 1500+? Bout to get 3bttls off a buddy for $50 and was gonna stack it with some transdermal tren till my test arrives.
 
Smont said:
You ever try epiandro at 1500+? Bout to get 3bttls off a buddy for $50 and was gonna stack it with some transdermal tren till my test arrives.
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I wasn't able to go over 1250mg since I had limited supply but it started to shine at a gram and I'm sure more would have been even better. Amazing feeling at 1250
 
Bunshichi said:
Why saw palmetto?
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EPIANDRO CONVERTS TO DHT and will affect your Prostate that's what I have read and my first cycle of epiandro did 6 weeks I add saw palmetto and no sides of prostate I think 1 sign it's that you starting to go to the restroom do number 1 more frequently and it burns when you pee
 
Smont said:
Because man, that shyts important!
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Yeah.
Especially as its purpose is to lower DHT due to inhibiting 5ar. I mean the point that you are taking a prohormone to DHT obviously shows you want to have lowered DHT levels. And the fact that Epiandro already is 5 alpha reduced really makes saw palmetto totally important as it will do about nothing.

How could I have missed its importance :o
 
Bestia956 said:
EPIANDRO CONVERTS TO DHT and will affect your Prostate that's what I have read and my first cycle of epiandro did 6 weeks I add saw palmetto and no sides of prostate I think 1 sign it's that you starting to go to the restroom do number 1 more frequently and it burns when you pee
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Well as I said its of really limited effect and if you don't want to raise DHT levels you should probably not take a prohormone to DHT.

The effects of DHT on the prostate are more complex than "higher DHT->bigger prostate". Estrogen levels play a role as well as the usual growth factors.

The reason you got no sides is Epiandro being a mild prohormone and you ran it for a short duration.

No disrespect, but maybe think about the pathways logically before using something and BEFORE putting out advice.
 
Bunshichi said:
Well as I said its of really limited effect and if you don't want to raise DHT levels you should probably not take a prohormone to DHT.

The effects of DHT on the prostate are more complex than "higher DHT->bigger prostate". Estrogen levels play a role as well as the usual growth factors.

The reason you got no sides is Epiandro being a mild prohormone and you ran it for a short duration.

No disrespect, but maybe think about the pathways logically before using something and BEFORE putting out advice.
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Not to be rude to the other guy but he has no clue what your talking about
 
Bunshichi said:
Well as I said its of really limited effect and if you don't want to raise DHT levels you should probably not take a prohormone to DHT.

The effects of DHT on the prostate are more complex than "higher DHT->bigger prostate". Estrogen levels play a role as well as the usual growth factors.

The reason you got no sides is Epiandro being a mild prohormone and you ran it for a short duration.

No disrespect, but maybe think about the pathways logically before using something and BEFORE putting out advice.
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Lmao you took like 15 min to answer did you Google it lmao
 
Bunshichi said:
Well as I said its of really limited effect and if you don't want to raise DHT levels you should probably not take a prohormone to DHT.

The effects of DHT on the prostate are more complex than "higher DHT->bigger prostate". Estrogen levels play a role as well as the usual growth factors.

The reason you got no sides is Epiandro being a mild prohormone and you ran it for a short duration.

No disrespect, but maybe think about the pathways logically before using something and BEFORE putting out advice.
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And read B4 answering I was telling him to add saw palmetto NOT TO LOWER DHT LMAO it's for prostate health purposes only NOT TO LOWER DHT LMAOO
 
guys apart from cutting,,getting 1 gram daily of epiandro gives you anything else? i want to try it a lot but its costly at so many bottles.
 
maxdarsinos said:
guys apart from cutting,,getting 1 gram daily of epiandro gives you anything else? i want to try it a lot but its costly at so many bottles.
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A little extra strength and agression. If you can barely afford your cycle how are you going to afford proper nutrition? If money is tight spend it on real food and buckle down with a strict diet and dedication to your goals and save the cycle for later. A half ass cycle will get half ass results
 
maxdarsinos said:
guys apart from cutting,,getting 1 gram daily of epiandro gives you anything else? i want to try it a lot but its costly at so many bottles.
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It will give you a raise in strength (solid but not nearly comparable what most methylated designersteroids would give you).
Most of all however it will make you alert, feeling good (maybe a little stressed) and totally like THE MAN in the room.
 
i may try it. i need two bottles for 1250mg of epi. i m gonna buy sup3r epi elite which has 120caps. its pricey but i want to try it.
do i need cycle support? 8 weeks is good or too much?
 
Not really a need for cycle support. Just take your fish oil as you always should and keep an eye on blood pressure.
 
can you also tell me which of the following SARMS is better for cutting?
Rhadar1ne
Ostar1ne
Legend
can i use it instead of super epi? are they better? i guess i need pct there too
 
For cutting it would be Radarine imo. But I would suggest an ostarine radarine stack.
Would be a little bit more powerful, but result in lethargy instead of good feeling.

You would absolutely need a SERM PCT for all the options other than really low dosed 11kt where you possibly would be fine with a really good OTC PCT but also there a SERM is to be preffered.
 
maxdarsinos said:
i may try it. i need two bottles for 1250mg of epi. i m gonna buy sup3r epi elite which has 120caps. its pricey but i want to try it.
do i need cycle support? 8 weeks is good or too much?
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I'am in the 3rd week on Epi Andro(Primeval labs) at 600mg/ed
Love it,I would use it year around if I could.
Only side I've felt was after the first doses when I felt my heart was rushing for about an hour.
The vascularity,fat burning and the muscle hardness is insane after just a couple of weeks.
 
radarine and ostarine is a good combo for cutting? at which dosages do you think? and for how long?
would i see anything else apart from cutting and strength?
as pct i plan to use nolva. would i be ok?
 
maxdarsinos said:
radarine and ostarine is a good combo for cutting? at which dosages do you think? and for how long?
would i see anything else apart from cutting and strength?
as pct i plan to use nolva. would i be ok?
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One can also use it to build muscle. Depends on diet.

Osta 20-30mg. I myself ran RAD with it at supposedly 20mg but I would guess my source underdosed it. 12mg of legit stuff should be good.

Just start both at the same time take the rad for 4 weeks and the osta for another 4-8 weeks.

Its a nice stack. However Prohormones have an on cycle feeling sarms have not.
Also Epianyro especially is a feel good compound.
 
maxdarsinos said:
i m doing a low calorie diet because i want to dry up. i ll use radarine and ostarine together.
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I meant it in the sense of 'eat in a caloric deficit->lose fat' eat in a caloric surplus and train ->gain muscle'. The compound you are taking is basically unimportant for the real results. More important for how you look on cycle etc.
 
i know i am being tiring but i wanted to be sure. between sup3r 11 at normal dosage and Sup3r Epi at 1250mg, which one would you choose?
combining them is not an option for me due to cost. only one of two.
 
maxdarsinos said:
i know i am being tiring but i wanted to be sure. between sup3r 11 at normal dosage and Sup3r Epi at 1250mg, which one would you choose?
combining them is not an option for me due to cost. only one of two.
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At this point of my life the Epiandro for sure as the mental clearness if of huge benefit for me.

If I wanted to look great for the time on cycle also Epiandro would be my choice.

For more easily sustained results and fat loss with the least stress for the body I would chose 11-kt.

However I would not chose to run one of them solo. I probably would not stack both of them either. But thats just due to me running much harsher compounds.
 
i m only interested in cutting. thats why i am asking. though the strength from epi is welcome.. why you say more easily sustained results? i thought none of those two give you any hard sustainable gains
 
No. I'm not talking about holding gained muscle. If you gain a little muscle on them during a cutting diet you will hold that easily.

What I'm talking about is you regaining some fat after the cycle. Because even these mild compounds will suppress the HPTA and the resulting hormonal imbalanced during PCT will result in you gaining fat and/or losing muscle (distribution dependent on diet and supplements).
The 11kt will be a little less suppressive at an equal help for fat loss because it worksnot only throug androgen receptors but also due to cortisol inhibition. The Epiandro will only work due to androgen receptors.

However the difference will be really small.
 
hmmm maybe 11kt will be better then. i want to sustain that low fat for a reason. i m doing a very strict diet and much exercise every week. you believe tha SARMS have more sustainable results? if not i ll go with 11 kt then. as i said before i am 14.5 bf exactly and plan to drop it around 10.
 
maxdarsinos said:
hmmm maybe 11kt will be better then. i want to sustain that low fat for a reason. i m doing a very strict diet and much exercise every week. you believe tha SARMS have more sustainable results? if not i ll go with 11 kt then. as i said before i am 14.5 bf exactly and plan to drop it around 10.
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As I said the difference will be low. Also consider that more energy may result in you doing more, working and dieting harder.

The SARMs won't be really much better. They should be easier to recover from but for fat loss Epiandro and 11kt wpuld probably work better.
 
So the plan is epi from olympus labs.
8 weeks at 1000/1000/1250/1250/1250...
And for pct i ll have nolvadex. Can ylu recommend dosage for nolva? I believe i am om with a serm. I may put some test booster there buti m not really sure if i must to. Pct should last 4 weeks? Anuthing else to maximize results and sustain my gains later? Thank you all for your time
 
maxdarsinos said:
So the plan is epi from olympus labs.
8 weeks at 1000/1000/1250/1250/1250...
And for pct i ll have nolvadex. Can ylu recommend dosage for nolva? I believe i am om with a serm. I may put some test booster there buti m not really sure if i must to. Pct should last 4 weeks? Anuthing else to maximize results and sustain my gains later? Thank you all for your time
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Just to clarify something before you spend a lot of money on something you didn't really want. Epiandro won't give you gains in the same way that, say, 1 andro will. What epi-a will do is give you a strength increase and focused aggression which will, in turn, allow you to lift heavier. It will also dry you out so you should look better aesthetically once it gets going. So the gains are an indirect result of the strength, and will be much slower than other compounds. Because of that, it shouldn't be too difficult to keep any progress you make on that front
 
maxdarsinos said:
hello all!
i wanted to ask about epiandro, its dosage, and pct.
i am on cutting right now and i wanted to use a beginner PH. Do you think its good for cutting? should i choose 11-keto instead?
if yes what is the right dosage?
for pct should i use any SERM?

thanks
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Epi's a great cutter for beginners, and I think it might give you better results than 11-keto... not sure, I've only used epi. But still, I would definitely NOT use both. That's a recipe for not just razor blades in your joints, but a plethora of other ****ty ass symptoms of low cortisol.

Andros need to be run at least eight weeks, they don't start kicking til the third or fourth. And yes, four weeks of Nolva or Clomid would be good.
 
The gains are welcome evein inderectly from strength. I care about its cutting performance as i said i want to dry oyt and lose much of fat. If this is done effecrively then i m ok with epi. I cant find any other unmethylated ph besides keto that does it.
 
can i combine it with proviron or an AI such us nolvadren xt or erase?
i mean will it enhance any results? will there be good synergy?
 
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