11-andro dosage

maxdarsinos

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hello all!
i want to start a beginner cycle only with 11-oxo (11 ketotestosterone)
the only product i found is brawn's 11 andro.

how much dosage should i use in order to lean out?
i am 74kg and around 16% body fat. i workout 4 times per week at gym, and i also do fencing 2 times a week.

should i use any PCT?
thanks for your time
 
What's your goal?
I have done 11 keto many times and it is a great recomp product.
OTC pct: 6week with dosages from 400-800mg
PA said back in the days that 11 oxo causes minimal suppression at 500mg and I have seen blood works through the years with no suppression at all at 600mg
 
11oxo is not identical to 11kt.

Which compound you actually plan on using will determine the appropriate dosing.
 
i plan to use brawn 11 andro. its on ***********.uk
i cant order anything from the US cause i live in Greece and the travel costs may be very high.
i also plan to dry up a lot. i m on cutting so thats why i want to use 11 andro.
 
11 keto is good for cutting but in order to "see" any results u have to dose it high imo(600mg and above),which means a lot of money and a proper pct just to be safe..if u dose it low,it will act as a cortisol blocker mostly.i can understand that since its ur first cycle u are concerned of the toxicity issues-shutdown,thats why u ve chosen this mild compound but keep in mind that its still a pro hormone and you need to be careful.
 
maxdarsinos said:
so if i stay 6 weeks at 600mg i ll see any other results apart from cutting? im 75 kg
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This depends on ur diet mate..11 keto isnt so strong to notice big improvements,maybe some vascularity amd muscle hardness which would be more clear if u were lower bf..and it will aid in ur fat loss IF other aspects as training diet are in check.
 
PARASXOS said:
This depends on ur diet mate..11 keto isnt so strong to notice big improvements,maybe some vascularity amd muscle hardness which would be more clear if u were lower bf..and it will aid in ur fat loss IF other aspects as training diet are in check.
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My only goal is to lose fat. Would you recommend 300 or higher dosage?
 
maxdarsinos said:
one question. have you ever used the spray version? does it worth it ? is it better at cost/effective than pills?
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I have used both pills and transdermal.i liked the pills better cause this for me was more convenient rather the pump product.as far as effectiveness the pills were stronger but i used big dosage(900mg)and small dosage in pump form.
 
maxdarsinos said:
how many pounds are you? did you see any effect?any gains?
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Yes,i remeber i was dieting and i didnt lose any muscle..i had really good pump-vascularity in gym,i was low bf already though.i noticed better recovery too.it was an allright cycle,nothing major.my stats are 1.73 71 kg 10% bf
 
i might give it a try but i am troubled at the cost/perfomance ration. i mean those mgs need many bottles of 11 keto.
can you give me any other PH alternative? as i said before i try to lower body fat and dry up a lot
 
maxdarsinos said:
i might give it a try but i am troubled at the cost/perfomance ration. i mean those mgs need many bottles of 11 keto.
can you give me any other PH alternative? as i said before i try to lower body fat and dry up a lot
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A good alternative for your goal would be furuza,but the cycle will be expensive again cause u need big dosage to notice anything as 11 keto.
All these are not methyls so not toxic and the shutdown wont be severe,but serm just to be safe is clever to use.
After that u can look at the methyls starters hdrol-epistane,both toxic si u need cycle support,serm of course for pct but the results will be there..
Imo stay low dose 11 keto,it will help you with ur goals.
 
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