Please critique Msten cycle...

rkmich

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Note on TRT so will be on test cyp 100mg/week constant (also to help with BP and general health benefit, taking 5mg tadalafil daily)

Prior 2 week support "pre-load"
Kings Guard
Kings Blood?

Msten 10/20/20/30 (first methyl cycle, starting slow to assess sides)

On cycle support:
Kings Guard
Aromasin (on hand just in case)
Tudca - In King's Guard, but adding a little extra
Taurine 6g/day
HcG (going to try and get script from doc as part of my TRT)

PCT (4 weeks):
Nolvadex 20/20/10/10 or Clomid 50/50/25/25 (or both?)
Ar1macare Pro or Kings Guard?
Kings Blood
HcG


*** I am sure all of you will say PCT not needed if I am on TRT, but my natural production not fully shutdown and want to bring back as much natural production as possible, and for sure after 4 weeks of Msten, I am sure my natural production will be fully shutdown.


Thanks all for your help!
 
MSTEN shut me down hard. was going to do 6 week run at 20mg, using Tr3st Transdermal as base, could hardly make it through week 4 to finish cycle.
 
rkmich said:
Note on TRT so will be on test cyp 100mg/week constant (also to help with BP and general health benefit, taking 5mg tadalafil daily)

Prior 2 week support "pre-load"
Kings Guard
Kings Blood?

Msten 10/20/20/30 (first methyl cycle, starting slow to assess sides)

On cycle support:
Kings Guard
Aromasin (on hand just in case)
Tudca - In King's Guard, but adding a little extra
Taurine 6g/day
HcG (going to try and get script from doc as part of my TRT)

PCT (4 weeks):
Nolvadex 20/20/10/10 or Clomid 50/50/25/25 (or both?)
Ar1macare Pro or Kings Guard?
Kings Blood
HcG


*** I am sure all of you will say PCT not needed if I am on TRT, but my natural production not fully shutdown and want to bring back as much natural production as possible, and for sure after 4 weeks of Msten, I am sure my natural production will be fully shutdown.


Thanks all for your help!
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there is no pct if you are on trt men the only thing which i would take after msten is hcg for fertility purposes thats it ,
 
A SERM is used in PCT to raise test levels after the use of suppressive compounds has ceased (the cycle ends). You are continuing to use a suppressive compound (testosterone). Therefore, there is no need for you to use a SERM. Any natural testosterone production that might still be going on (big emphasis on "might") is irrelevant since you're on TRT.

You also probably don't need the taurine, since you're taking Cialis.
 
Thanks all for comments so far...fully understood regarding TRT and PCT, and likely no benefit, but at same time I figure it can't hurt to run a SERM and natty booster.

As to hcg, when on TRT there are more benefits than just fertility.
 
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