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Newbie looking for Ostarine cycle advice

Topless_Stang

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Hello out there, very new to SARMs & even newer to this forum. With that being said I've been doing a lot of reading on ways to get more out of my work outs & diet. I have been pretty active in the gym for a little over a year and have yet to break through this plateau. After what I've been reading for the past few days I'm looking to begin a cycle of Ostarine & Cardarine. I found a good source of liquids:

Ostarine ( Mk 2866 ) - 50mg/mL, 1 Bottle - 30mL
Cardarine (GW 501516) - 20mg/mL, 1 Bottle - 30mL

Is there anything else I should include? I'm looking to cut for a while and then recomp. I'm currently 40 years old, 6'1 and approx 275. Last year I got down to 255, but as my divorce wore on I put some lbs back on. With that situation behind me I'm all set to focus on myself. I've heard that adding either LGD-4033 or MK-677. What would be a good stack for a beginner? Also, I'm used to mixing powder based supps....do you just drink these straight from the dropper or mix them? Running a stack like this do I need a PCT between cycles? Thanks for reading and any help would be beneficial!


PS - Last year my doc gave me Androgel & after I see her this year I can get it again if needed. SHould I add it to my regimen or skip it due to the SARM cycle?
 
I am personally running S4, MK2866, and GW. And I love the stack. I'm doing a 50mg split dose of S4, 25mg MK, and 20 mg GW. And you can mix them with cranberry juice if you like alot of people say they like it that way. I personally just tilt my head back and drop it down the back of my throat. But, the taste is something you definitely need to get use to. I don't even taste it anymore. The S4, and MK are the worse taste, GW is like doing a hard whiskey shot
 
Awesome! I'm a little leery of the S4 due to all the side effects I have read about. particularly the stuff pertaining to vision side effects. How long have you been running that stack and have you seen any gains? I'm mostly looking to add a little LBM & also something that can help with fat loss.
 
I been on for 5 weeks now, seen some good qaulity gains, nothimg huge but wasnt expecting that either. I run it 5 days on Mon-Fri. And 2 days off Sat-Sun and it seems to bypass the sides. That is something I picked up while reading on it myself, and so far it has worked
 
Sounds good...what are your dosages & how long is your cycle? 8 or 12? I was looking to do 8, but then read I should do 12 w/Osterine & Cardarine with a 4 week PCT of Clomid & Cardarine. Thoughts?
 
S4 is 50 split dose 25 in the am 25 before the gym, Ost is 25 in the AM, and GW is 20 before the gym. I'm running 12 weeks. And I run Perfect PCT for all my cycles
 
What is your body fat %?

definitely run the androgel during the cycle. Will probably do more for you than the ostarine
 
DemntedCowboy said:
I am personally running S4, MK2866, and GW. And I love the stack. I'm doing a 50mg split dose of S4, 25mg MK, and 20 mg GW. And you can mix them with cranberry juice if you like alot of people say they like it that way. I personally just tilt my head back and drop it down the back of my throat. But, the taste is something you definitely need to get use to. I don't even taste it anymore. The S4, and MK are the worse taste, GW is like doing a hard whiskey shot
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Topless_Stang said:
Sounds good...what are your dosages & how long is your cycle? 8 or 12? I was looking to do 8, but then read I should do 12 w/Osterine & Cardarine with a 4 week PCT of Clomid & Cardarine. Thoughts?
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You both may find this interesting. My apologies if you were already aware..

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Ricky10 said:
You both may find this interesting. My apologies if you were already aware..

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Great info, for the young guys out there looking into SARMS. But, for a guy like me. I'm older had all my kids, and not having any more. But, definitely good info, and something to think about for those younger guys.
 
DemntedCowboy said:
Great info, for the young guys out there looking into SARMS. But, for a guy like me. I'm older had all my kids, and not having any more. But, definitely good info, and something to think about for those younger guys.
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Yeah..I had never come across this and I research the hell out of supplements!

You learn something new everyday...
 
Last I had it checked I was just over 20%. I ordered everything except Clomid. I'll be starting the second week of May. Any tips anyone have for proper dosage using the following vials?
Cardarine GW-501516 - 30 mg per ml
Ostarine MK-2866 - 30 mg per ml

I want to use it to see the benefits while my rat is cutting.
 
Topless_Stang said:
Last I had it checked I was just over 20%. I ordered everything except Clomid. I'll be starting the second week of May. Any tips anyone have for proper dosage using the following vials?
Cardarine GW-501516 - 30 mg per ml
Ostarine MK-2866 - 30 mg per ml

I want to use it to see the benefits while my rat is cutting.
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Osta I wouldn't go more than 25mg/day as a beginner. You'll also want to have at a minimum an otc ai like inhibit-e, but I would have a pharma one as well on hand since osta can cause estro issues for many people, especially since you're on the high end of reasonable bf%.

you need some type of on cycle support as well and i would even run it at a half dose for pct since serms have some impact on liver vals as well.

Cardarine can be a bit tricky and depends on diet. I would start out lower (10mg/day max) and slowly work your way up. You will need to have enough carbs in your diet too otherwise it will make you sluggish and miserable and can even make you hypoglycemic. I've personally never gone above 21mg/day so 10-25 is probably the range you would wanna stick to.

Dont start anything until you have your clomid in hand tho. dont wanna get stuck if something goes wrong early in your cycle and your pct isnt ready.
 
booneman77 said:
Osta I wouldn't go more than 25mg/day as a beginner. You'll also want to have at a minimum an otc ai like inhibit-e, but I would have a pharma one as well on hand since osta can cause estro issues for many people, especially since you're on the high end of reasonable bf%.

you need some type of on cycle support as well and i would even run it at a half dose for pct since serms have some impact on liver vals as well.

Cardarine can be a bit tricky and depends on diet. I would start out lower (10mg/day max) and slowly work your way up. You will need to have enough carbs in your diet too otherwise it will make you sluggish and miserable and can even make you hypoglycemic. I've personally never gone above 21mg/day so 10-25 is probably the range you would wanna stick to.

Dont start anything until you have your clomid in hand tho. dont wanna get stuck if something goes wrong early in your cycle and your pct isnt ready.
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My research lead me to believe I should do 25mg of Osta & 20 of Cardanine. I'm just now starting my cut and my diet is now almost carb free, approx 40-50g a day. I just looked up the Inhibit-E from one of Ricky10's other posts and was just coming back here to ask about it, so I'll be ordering that today. After more research on sources I'm probably going to go with Nolva as it has slight benefits for fighting gyno as well. From what you wrote are you sayng I should use a half dose of Clomid/Nolva on cycle as well as the full dose during PCT? Looking to do a cycle that supports cutting and weight loss. Once I'm done with this cycle my diet, work outs, next cycle and such will focus more on recomp. I still have a bit of time as I'm not looking to get started with this until the second week in May. Other than the items listed below is there anything else needed? SHould I include DAA as well?

8 Week Cycle
Ostarine 30mg/1ml @ 25mg Daily
Cardanine 30mg/1ml @ 20mg Daily
Inhibit-E

4 week PCT - Nolvadex 20/20/10/10

I will also be adding Androgel to my daily regimen. I was told this wouldn't cause any issues with Osta or Cardanine.
 
Topless_Stang said:
My research lead me to believe I should do 25mg of Osta & 20 of Cardanine. I'm just now starting my cut and my diet is now almost carb free, approx 40-50g a day. I just looked up the Inhibit-E from one of Ricky10's other posts and was just coming back here to ask about it, so I'll be ordering that today. After more research on sources I'm probably going to go with Nolva as it has slight benefits for fighting gyno as well. From what you wrote are you sayng I should use a half dose of Clomid/Nolva on cycle as well as the full dose during PCT? Looking to do a cycle that supports cutting and weight loss. Once I'm done with this cycle my diet, work outs, next cycle and such will focus more on recomp. I still have a bit of time as I'm not looking to get started with this until the second week in May. Other than the items listed below is there anything else needed? SHould I include DAA as well?

8 Week Cycle
Ostarine 30mg/1ml @ 25mg Daily
Cardanine 30mg/1ml @ 20mg Daily
Inhibit-E

4 week PCT - Nolvadex 20/20/10/10

I will also be adding Androgel to my daily regimen. I was told this wouldn't cause any issues with Osta or Cardanine.
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what? where did you get running a serm on cycle from my post?... on cycle support would be like CEL cycle assist or the like... liver/heart/general organ support.

and your diet is gonna be a disaster with that amount of caradarine... thats what i tried to tell you is you CANT do low carb with higher cardarine. youll feel like death.

and nolva wont "fight" gyno, its a serm, it will prevent or stop estrogen from binding to the receptors (thus the name "selective estrogen receptor modulator"). if you have or develop gyno, it will only keep it from getting worse, not make it better.

I'm personally not a fan of DAA as it gives me sides, but some use it. Its a real mixed results type of supp tho with even more mixed data.
 
Kingkahjj said:
I have a video on YouTube talking about my experience with ostarine if u want to check it out
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what does that have to do with anything? He asked for advice, not your personal review. quit hawking yourself and your channel.
 
But few things off the bat:
One compound should be enough if your training and nutrition is on point
Osta may shrink your nuts and make u hold water which can be combatted by arimistane (people mistake there osta for a PH)
Cycles longer than 8 weeks at 20-25 mg should probably use a serm tho DAA and arimi will probably be suffice
 
Kingkahjj said:
But few things off the bat:
One compound should be enough if your training and nutrition is on point
Osta may shrink your nuts and make u hold water which can be combatted by arimistane (people mistake there osta for a PH)
Cycles longer than 8 weeks at 20-25 mg should probably use a serm tho DAA and arimi will probably be suffice
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my god... please just stop...

OP this is all TERRIBLE advice. And flat out incorrect info
 
booneman77 said:
what? where did you get running a serm on cycle from my post?... on cycle support would be like CEL cycle assist or the like... liver/heart/general organ support.

and your diet is gonna be a disaster with that amount of caradarine... thats what i tried to tell you is you CANT do low carb with higher cardarine. youll feel like death.

and nolva wont "fight" gyno, its a serm, it will prevent or stop estrogen from binding to the receptors (thus the name "selective estrogen receptor modulator"). if you have or develop gyno, it will only keep it from getting worse, not make it better.

I'm personally not a fan of DAA as it gives me sides, but some use it. Its a real mixed results type of supp tho with even more mixed data.
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I got confused when you gave me info about running something on cycle and then a half dose during PCT. Ok, So you're thinking I should do half of that dose of cardarine? Cardarine doesn't need to be cycled so I will continue that for the duration (cycle + PCT) and then stop for 12 weeks while I wait to begin the next cycle. I read that Nolva was also used as a stand alone gyno treatment and it works better than Clomid in regards to preventing possible gyno sides. Was what I mentioned a decent cycle + pct. If not what would you recommend adding besides what I already picked up:
Osterine
Cardarine
Inhibit-E
Nolvadex
 
Kingkahjj said:
But few things off the bat:
One compound should be enough if your training and nutrition is on point
Osta may shrink your nuts and make u hold water which can be combatted by arimistane (people mistake there osta for a PH)
Cycles longer than 8 weeks at 20-25 mg should probably use a serm tho DAA and arimi will probably be suffice
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I thought we all discussed the problems with DAA and Arimistane with you in your prior Ostarine thread..
 
Topless_Stang said:
I got confused when you gave me info about running something on cycle and then a half dose during PCT. Ok, So you're thinking I should do half of that dose of cardarine? Cardarine doesn't need to be cycled so I will continue that for the duration (cycle + PCT) and then stop for 12 weeks while I wait to begin the next cycle. I read that Nolva was also used as a stand alone gyno treatment and it works better than Clomid in regards to preventing possible gyno sides. Was what I mentioned a decent cycle + pct. If not what would you recommend adding besides what I already picked up:
Osterine
Cardarine
Inhibit-E
Nolvadex
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I said you need on-cycle support, and can half dose it during pct WITH your serm.

On cycle:
Osta
Cardarine (10mg and work your way up or add carbs)
CEL Cycle Assist (on-cycle support)
inhibit e (or pharma ai)

PCT:
SERM (nolva or clomid - youre not using these for gyno treatment, just for their htpa restart capabilities)
inhibit e (or pharma)
CEL Cycle assist (half dose)
SNS Reduce xt (cortisol control)
CEL M-test (natty test booster)
 
Kingkahjj said:
But few things off the bat:
One compound should be enough if your training and nutrition is on point
Osta may shrink your nuts and make u hold water which can be combatted by arimistane (people mistake there osta for a PH)
Cycles longer than 8 weeks at 20-25 mg should probably use a serm tho DAA and arimi will probably be suffice
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Yes, please do not listen to this guy. And listen to what booneman77 is trying to tell you. His advice on this cycle is on point.
 
booneman77 said:
I said you need on-cycle support, and can half dose it during pct WITH your serm.

On cycle:
Osta
Cardarine (10mg and work your way up or add carbs)
CEL Cycle Assist (on-cycle support)
inhibit e (or pharma ai)

PCT:
SERM (nolva or clomid - youre not using these for gyno treatment, just for their htpa restart capabilities)
inhibit e (or pharma)
CEL Cycle assist (half dose)
SNS Reduce xt (cortisol control)
CEL M-test (natty test booster)
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Just the info I was looking for. Thanks again for clearing that up...between the three of you I am now on the right path. Do I need to use the Test Boosters if I'm already going to start AndroGel?
 
booneman77 said:
I said you need on-cycle support, and can half dose it during pct WITH your serm.

On cycle:
Osta
Cardarine (10mg and work your way up or add carbs)
CEL Cycle Assist (on-cycle support)
inhibit e (or pharma ai)

PCT:
SERM (nolva or clomid - youre not using these for gyno treatment, just for their htpa restart capabilities)
inhibit e (or pharma)
CEL Cycle assist (half dose)
SNS Reduce xt (cortisol control)
CEL M-test (natty test booster)
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Have a good source or different product to use instead of the SNS Reduce XT? I can't find a good source...I found a good source for the other stuff....for some reason Amazon doesn't sell that.
 
Topless_Stang said:
Have a good source or different product to use instead of the SNS Reduce XT? I can't find a good source...I found a good source for the other stuff....for some reason Amazon doesn't sell that.
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I just did a search and it seems that many places have it in stock...
 
I only found 2 & wasn't familiar with either place. I found the other stuff on Amazon, but I'll check eBay. Are the natural test boosters needed with Androgel?
 
Topless_Stang said:
Just the info I was looking for. Thanks again for clearing that up...between the three of you I am now on the right path. Do I need to use the Test Boosters if I'm already going to start AndroGel?
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Ah, no. Totally overlooked that. No natty test booster will do as much or more than androgel. You're good to go with that as it's nearly a mild trt
 
Topless_Stang said:
Have a good source or different product to use instead of the SNS Reduce XT? I can't find a good source...I found a good source for the other stuff....for some reason Amazon doesn't sell that.
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Pretty much any board sponsor site here carries it. If you're in the US that where I'd buy it (or pm me and I'll send you one or two of mine for the same price)
 
booneman77 said:
Ah, no. Totally overlooked that. No natty test booster will do as much or more than androgel. You're good to go with that as it's nearly a mild trt
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Awesome...then I'll wait to buy until after I go see my Dr to renew the Androgel. Which one should I skip if I pick up Androgel?
 
booneman77 said:
Pretty much any board sponsor site here carries it. If you're in the US that where I'd buy it (or pm me and I'll send you one or two of mine for the same price)
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I found a source and Ricky vouched for them so I'm about to pull the trigger on everything. I just need to find a source for the Nolva & see my Dr to get the Androgel.
 
Topless_Stang said:
Awesome...then I'll wait to buy until after I go see my Dr to renew the Androgel. Which one should I skip if I pick up Androgel?
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Any natty test booster. M-test is what I recommended but that would include stuff like alphamax, testify, etc.

And def have that ai ready since you'll be using a stronger test replacement.
 
booneman77 said:
Any natty test booster. M-test is what I recommended but that would include stuff like alphamax, testify, etc.

And def have that ai ready since you'll be using a stronger test replacement.
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Ty sir...this response is what I was waiting for. I'll order everything except the M-Test and take everything else you recommended. I'll be starting the cycle the second week in may, but I'll be starting the Androgel prior to that, hopefully the end of this week after my Dr app.
 
Topless_Stang said:
Ty sir...this response is what I was waiting for. I'll order everything except the M-Test and take everything else you recommended. I'll be starting the cycle the second week in may, but I'll be starting the Androgel prior to that, hopefully the end of this week after my Dr app.
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Glad to help.
 
Topless_Stang said:
One last question. The dosage for Osterine that I'm trying to give my rat is 25mg, but the concentration I got is 30mg/1ml. Do you know what I should have the dropper at to get 25mg? I tried to do the conversion, but can't figure out the math.
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haha ok, math lesson for today:

If we take 1ml, thats 30mg of osta, we only want 25mg tho so we need to take 25/30th's of that ml soooo...
1ml = 30mg.........25mg/30mg = 0.83....0.83/1ml = 0.83ml = 25mg

So basically you'd be fine to do 0.8ml (I'm sure itll be nearly impossible to get an oral syringe with such small graduations that you could measure that last 0.03ml accurately... a little over or under each day will make a negligible difference... just stay +/-0.05max and you'll be fine)
 
Ok..one last question & I mean it this time lol

How does everyone take these? I planned to mix a drink with all the meds in the AM. Osterine, Cardarine, BCAAs & Glutamine...all mixed in with Vitamin water. Would that be ok?
 
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