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BEST CYCLE FOR Buildng / HARDENING and preserve LIBIDO

gianlol

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Hi guys,

Long time I not cycle, I had some cycles before (both aas and ph),
what stop me to do another one is the loss of Libido.

I work with sex, so I can't risk to "flop", even if I'm on cycle.

I was thinking to begin a PH cycle, but I need help to select the right compounds.
What's the less libido suppressive? I heard h-drol is one of these.

I have in my mind this stack to build lean gains and keep libido up:

h-drol or epi
1ad-cycle
proviron
other compounds for libido (ljack,maca, etc)

what else can I add/change?
 
The compounds you have listed seem more favorable, I had no problems when using H-drol, old version which was the one that converts to turanabol but active on its own. i also combined with Tr3n which converts to trenbolone which is a 19,Nor, similar to deca, i think as long as you stay away from them 2 as in tren and deca or derivatives libido should not suffer.
 
Look into epiandro, 4 andro, and maybe trest. You are pretty much guaranteed a drop in libido and performance during your PCT at least in my experience, but it is possible.
 
Not to be in your business (or make jokes or anything) but do you work in film? You probably already know, but I've tried Cialis a few times and the stuff is awesome! 1 pill works for about 3 days, rock hard when you need it but soft when you don't. Good lasting power, too. Just wondering why this isn't an option for you
 
Also, at Rite Aid I picked up a few bottles of a Maca Root/ Horny goat weed combo for dirt cheap. Stuff worked real good to get me feeling like a teenager again.
 
gianlol said:
Hi guys,

Long time I not cycle, I had some cycles before (both aas and ph),
what stop me to do another one is the loss of Libido.

I work with sex, so I can't risk to "flop", even if I'm on cycle.

I was thinking to begin a PH cycle, but I need help to select the right compounds.
What's the less libido suppressive? I heard h-drol is one of these.

I have in my mind this stack to build lean gains and keep libido up:

h-drol or epi
1ad-cycle
proviron
other compounds for libido (ljack,maca, etc)

what else can I add/change?
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Melanotan II = Tan+Boner+Anorexia
 
medinacirilo said:
Not to be in your business (or make jokes or anything) but do you work in film? You probably already know, but I've tried Cialis a few times and the stuff is awesome! 1 pill works for about 3 days, rock hard when you need it but soft when you don't. Good lasting power, too. Just wondering why this isn't an option for you
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no, I don't work in films ;)

Cialis is good for erection, but not for libido. If you mentally don't want sex, cialis will not change this.
In my PCT i always lost interest in sex, and is this i want avoid.
 
gianlol said:
no, I don't work in films ;)

Cialis is good for erection, but not for libido. If you mentally don't want sex, cialis will not change this.
In my PCT i always lost interest in sex, and is this i want avoid.
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Only way to make sure you don't drop in libido during PCT is NEVER PCT.
There are two possibilities: Either stay off, or stay on ang cruise and blast.
All other options will have a risk in impairing libido at some point or another with them.
 
Bunshichi said:
Only way to make sure you don't drop in libido during PCT is NEVER PCT.
There are two possibilities: Either stay off, or stay on ang cruise and blast.
All other options will have a risk in impairing libido at some point or another with them.
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Wouldn't 2nd option blasting and cruising be detrimental to fertility - reproduction.
 
Thank you for all suggestion guys, I understood is impossibile to avoid a little libido drop during PCT, but I will try to minimize it.

Let' start from the cycle: remember my goal is Little clean gains and a good cutting (now i'm at 10-12% bf)

I think I will start a H-Drol cycle for 4-6 weeks @75mg/ED

I have 2 bottles of 4AD-Cycle, so is a bad idea put it in the cycle (for the libido thing)?

What is the best to stack with H-Drol for my purpose? Maybe Havoc? Nothing? some SARMS?


PCT: Nolva 4weeks@ 25/ed + Proviron 50-75/ed
other supps to support my PCT?
 
gianlol said:
Thank you for all suggestion guys, I understood is impossibile to avoid a little libido drop during PCT, but I will try to minimize it.

Let' start from the cycle: remember my goal is Little clean gains and a good cutting (now i'm at 10-12% bf)

I think I will start a H-Drol cycle for 4-6 weeks @75mg/ED

I have 2 bottles of 4AD-Cycle, so is a bad idea put it in the cycle (for the libido thing)?

What is the best to stack with H-Drol for my purpose? Maybe Havoc? Nothing? some SARMS?


PCT: Nolva 4weeks@ 25/ed + Proviron 50-75/ed
other supps to support my PCT?
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Hdrol, (4andro, and epi Andro) should keep your libido up. Do not use proviron during PCT, it is a little suppressive. If your worried about libido in PCT get some Cialis. Simple easy cycle.

Hdrol 75-125mg
4andro 300-400mg
Epi Andro 500-1000mg

Clomid 50,50,25,25 or nolva 40,20,20,10
Low dose Cialis every day or full dose eod.

Even simpler cycle....
Test e 350-500mg a week
 
Smont said:
Hdrol, (4andro, and epi Andro) should keep your libido up. Do not use proviron during PCT, it is a little suppressive. If your worried about libido in PCT get some Cialis. Simple easy cycle.

Hdrol 75-125mg
4andro 300-400mg
Epi Andro 500-1000mg

Clomid 50,50,25,25 or nolva 40,20,20,10
Low dose Cialis every day or full dose eod.

Even simpler cycle....
Test e 350-500mg a week
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4andro is the same of 4-AD contained in ANDROTEST (fusion supplements) ?
 
**** bro what's up! I remember you from like 2015
 
Smont said:
It never was, the old cyclo 4ad was like 100 a bttl

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yeah, I have 2 bottles of 4AD-cycle, I'm in europe so I buy from uk.


so the cycle maybe like this:

Hdrol 75-125mg
4AD 3-6 caps (as labeled)
Epi Andro 500-1000mg
 
gianlol said:
yeah, I have 2 bottles of 4AD, I'm in europe so I buy from uk.


so the cycle maybe like this:

Hdrol 75-125mg
4AD 3-6 caps (as labeled)
Epi Andro 500-1000mg
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Looks good

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If anyone finds something which increases libido, let me know! I struggle generally!

Something non hormonal would be preferred aka like Maca which could be taken daily.

I wish I knew what this Chinese herbalist gave me years ago for my Kidney, because I was giving me random boners too ?
 
AdelV said:
If anyone finds something which increases libido, let me know! I struggle generally!

Something non hormonal would be preferred aka like Maca which could be taken daily.

I wish I knew what this Chinese herbalist gave me years ago for my Kidney, because I was giving me random boners too ?
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Maca horny goat weed combo, most places have it combined and it's cheap
 
Smont said:
Maca horny goat weed combo, most places have it combined and it's cheap
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I've never felt much from Maca! Only once, but I forgot the brand I used that time.

HGW 50% extract from Nutraplanet back in the day was great, unfortunately good extracts are super expensive now and I'm sure this needs to be cycled.
 
Smont said:
Looks good

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gear arrived!!

I have the following in my hands now:

2 bottles halodrol 25mg/cap by Fusion Supplements
2 bottles Androtest 125mg/cap (4AD-cycle) by Fusion Supplements
2 bottles SuperEpi UK 250mg/cap (EpiAndro) by Olympus Labs


I have to spread in the day or I can take together? What's the best timing and dosage?

was thinking to run for 12 weeks but maybe too long, right?
 
gianlol said:
gear arrived!!

I have the following in my hands now:

2 bottles halodrol 25mg/cap by Fusion Supplements
2 bottles Androtest 125mg/cap (4AD-cycle) by Fusion Supplements
2 bottles SuperEpi UK 250mg/cap (EpiAndro) by Olympus Labs


I have to spread in the day or I can take together? What's the best timing and dosage?

was thinking to run for 12 weeks but maybe too long, right?
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Bunshichi said:
At least dose two times a day. Better 3. Especially the Epiandro is better taken spread out imo
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Definitely spread the doses out. Morning, afternoon and night. I always dose with my meals. Breakfast, lunch and dinner. Makes it easier to remember.
 
ok thanks!

what do you think about the cycle lenght?
maybe 12 weeks too suppressive? Is possible a libido drop even during cycle?

the reason why I thought to cycle 12 weeks is because if I start now, I will begin pct about middle July, in that period I have a "free window" of 2-3 weeks where I can manage a little libido drop.
 
update: tomorrow I will begin the cycle,

6-8 weeks halo (I will decided during the cycle)
12 weeks epiandro
12 weeks 4ad-cycle
proviron starting from week 6

PCT:
Arimidex: 1mg/ED
Nolva: 10mg/ED

maybe I will do log.

in add was considering a natural PCT (BLR Rebirth + Letrone) in order to avoid sex drive crash caused by nolva/clomid .

What do you think guys? Someone had a successful PCT with them?
 
Would not take the risk and **** with my pct.
Also Tamox never caused loss of libido for me.
Loss of libido during pct should be due to low androgen levels with real SERMs helping the fastest way.
 
Bunshichi said:
Would not take the risk and **** with my pct.
Also Tamox never caused loss of libido for me.
Loss of libido during pct should be due to low androgen levels with real SERMs helping the fastest way.
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Sure I not want to risk, that's why I asked if someone done it.

but ok I'll do classic PCT.



Another question:
I have 2 bottle x Nolvadren XT (ANDROST-3,5-DIEN-7, 17-DIONE) on hands, where to put it? On cycle or in pct?


this is all the compounds in it:

TEST-ESTRO MODULATOR 75 mg
ESTRO-METABOLIZE (DIINDOLYLMETHANE (DIM))200 mg
CORT-CONTROL MATRIX
7-HYDROXY 17B-DIHYDRO DEHYDROEPIANDROSTERONE25 mg
7-HYDROXY DEHYDROEPIANDROSTERONE 25 mg
 
gianlol said:
Sure I not want to risk, that's why I asked if someone done it.

but ok I'll do classic PCT.



Another question:
I have 2 bottle x Nolvadren XT (ANDROST-3,5-DIEN-7, 17-DIONE) on hands, where to put it? On cycle or in pct?


this is all the compounds in it:

TEST-ESTRO MODULATOR 75 mg
ESTRO-METABOLIZE (DIINDOLYLMETHANE (DIM))200 mg
CORT-CONTROL MATRIX
7-HYDROXY 17B-DIHYDRO DEHYDROEPIANDROSTERONE25 mg
7-HYDROXY DEHYDROEPIANDROSTERONE 25 mg
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Not a big fan of crap like this, maybe use one bttl during PCT and 1 as a extended PCT. Or sell them on ebay
 
Hm. A little difficult because of the DHEA it contains. DhEA can be supressive. Minimally, but still.
The cortisol control however is a clear point to take it in pct.
However I don't know what I would do with it.
 
Bunshichi said:
Hm. A little difficult because of the DHEA it contains. DhEA can be supressive. Minimally, but still.
The cortisol control however is a clear point to take it in pct.
However I don't know what I would do with it.
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The amount is so low I wouldn't worry
 
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