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Habajaba's journey from geek to giant

ryane87 said:
I am still slightly fearful of TRT as well. I am 37 and I think I could probably qualify for it. In the end, I will probably just self medicate with it after I eventually do a couple of cycles.
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Yeah I'd like to make it to 40... I'll be like hairygrandpa (no offense bro I love ya) when I go on TRT... crazy as fck

Lactating and pinning d1ck Peptides
 
It's funny.
You all are considering to go on TRT -and I am contemplating to come off of TRT/Cruising/Abusing/Blasting.
I pin 125mg test-e every 5 days now.
Today was the day again.
I pin in quads as I can't reach my azz comfortably. First I hit a vein. Second I hit a damn nerve! My leg snapped forward involuntarily and I hit my big toe on the table leg, god damnit! The needle bent almost 90 degrees, had to switch syringes.
Pinned a third time, now anxious about whats gonna happen....and hit a nerve AGAIN for gods sake!
Stuck it finally in my left delt without further problems.

Really, I'm pissed. Hitting a nerve is hell. It's not the pain -but the surprise whats torturing me.
 
Ugh. That's horrible and exactly why I wussed out and picked a doc that injects for me.

As for being scared. I get it. But before I made the leap, I did plenty of research. There is definitely a protocol for getting off of TRT if one decides to. As for the other risks. Like mmorso said, the latest data seems to squash those concerns. Here's the thing. Ibuprofen causes cardiovascular events. So IMO any thing you take can be an issue. For me, I was on a prescription NSAID and muscle relaxer. TRT caused those issues to resolve and I stopped taking those drugs. If you ask me, I'd rather be on test (a natural substance) than drugs.
 
mmorso said:
Idk about that bro. You've been all natty so far. I think once a guy starts cycling it's inevitable... I mean eventually your HPTA won't bounce back completely and that's that
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when I can't lay the wood to the wife is when I will draw the line!
 
hairygrandpa said:
It's funny.
You all are considering to go on TRT -and I am contemplating to come off of TRT/Cruising/Abusing/Blasting.
I pin 125mg test-e every 5 days now.
Today was the day again.
I pin in quads as I can't reach my azz comfortably. First I hit a vein. Second I hit a damn nerve! My leg snapped forward involuntarily and I hit my big toe on the table leg, god damnit! The needle bent almost 90 degrees, had to switch syringes.
Pinned a third time, now anxious about whats gonna happen....and hit a nerve AGAIN for gods sake!
Stuck it finally in my left delt without further problems.

Really, I'm pissed. Hitting a nerve is hell. It's not the pain -but the surprise whats torturing me.
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Dam that has got to suck! i remember the dentist hitting a nerve in my mouth and I just about punched him and then a tear ran out of my eye.
hurt like a mofo!
 
habajaba said:
Ugh. That's horrible and exactly why I wussed out and picked a doc that injects for me.

As for being scared. I get it. But before I made the leap, I did plenty of research. There is definitely a protocol for getting off of TRT if one decides to. As for the other risks. Like mmorso said, the latest data seems to squash those concerns. Here's the thing. Ibuprofen causes cardiovascular events. So IMO any thing you take can be an issue. For me, I was on a prescription NSAID and muscle relaxer. TRT caused those issues to resolve and I stopped taking those drugs. If you ask me, I'd rather be on test (a natural substance) than drugs.
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Well Put!
 
habajaba said:
Ugh. That's horrible and exactly why I wussed out and picked a doc that injects for me.

As for being scared. I get it. But before I made the leap, I did plenty of research. There is definitely a protocol for getting off of TRT if one decides to. As for the other risks. Like mmorso said, the latest data seems to squash those concerns. Here's the thing. Ibuprofen causes cardiovascular events. So IMO any thing you take can be an issue. For me, I was on a prescription NSAID and muscle relaxer. TRT caused those issues to resolve and I stopped taking those drugs. If you ask me, I'd rather be on test (a natural substance) than drugs.
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Knowing myself, I'm also scared of TRT cause I'd really start abusing anabolics.. I'd prob be blasting more than cruising...

The current data squashes concerns for people that take the dr prescribed dose of test for HRT... idk that I've come across data of the risks associated with B&C but I'd imagine that they would substantially increase
 
Studhorse said:
Dam that has got to suck! i remember the dentist hitting a nerve in my mouth and I just about punched him and then a tear ran out of my eye.
hurt like a mofo!
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No, it's not that painful. Think of an electric shock. If you pin quads hitting a nerve, your leg gets a jolt and suddenly kicks.
it's a WTF moment. When pinning in the arm, it's unlikely to get it hitting delts, I got it when injecting bi/tris with peptides though.
Only happens when injecting IM.
 
mmorso said:
Knowing myself, I'm also scared of TRT cause I'd really start abusing anabolics.. I'd prob be blasting more than cruising...

The current data squashes concerns for people that take the dr prescribed dose of test for HRT... idk that I've come across data of the risks associated with B&C but I'd imagine that they would substantially increase
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Ok, yes. In that case, I can see the issue. My goal has been different. I want to reap the benefits of TRT more than blast and cruise. I use other things for the anabolic effects. TRT alone is still no slouch, though. I definitely added some positive lean mass and slimmed down a bit simply by getting my TT up.
 
I took the past 2 days off due to family in town. Cost of living in paradise eh justhere4comm?

Honestly, I felt gassed before I even started. Did not want to do it. Then I got delayed and my PWO was pretty worn off by the time I started. I tossed in a BronkAid at the beginning, but I don't think it did much. Strength still feels pretty much unchanged, but I did get back down to 49:30. So overall, a good day.

I feel like I'm still holding some water so I dosed 12.5 exem last night. Still no other estro sides. Sorry hairygrandpa and SFreed. I'm calling trest a bust. Gonna have to live vicariously through someone else for the boobies, guys.

Really looking forward to next week with epistane. I believe week 3 is where it's at with epi. And I only have a month supply. Let's hope I can at least get some gains this round from the epi!
 
Up 5.0# this week to 235.4. That's 2 consecutive weeks of gains, so I think the yoyo weight is done. I don't feel fat, although I do feel like I'm still holding some water. My ring is tight. The exem didn't change much, but I'm hesitant to dose much more and possibly take my e2 too low. Either way, I must be adding some lbm. Still not feeling stronger in any way, though.
 
What does the mirror say? I imagine it's probably parts water retention, parts muscle. Once your hormones even out, you might start to drop the water weight.
 
ryane87 said:
What does the mirror say? I imagine it's probably parts water retention, parts muscle. Once your hormones even out, you might start to drop the water weight.
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Well the mirror seems to look about the same. Possibly a slight bit leaner at the top of the abs. This is why I think it's lean muscle and water weight. I think if I was gaining fat, it would be in my gut tire. And that piece looks and feels unchanged.

I suspect that my e2 is very high considering I'm not running much exem at all. I must just be someone who tolerates it well. My TRT bloods seem to indicate that as well since I was already above range prior to trest and had no sides and actually felt great. In fact, I'd venture to say that I may feel and perform better when my e2 is high because I think it might also be the reason my inflammation issues are gone.
 
I had some unplanned downtime due to a sick kid. Felt motivated, so I did tomorrow's lift today. Didn't feel overly strong, finished in 51:00. Still think I'm seeing minor body composition improvement. I'd guess that's good, considering my weight has jumped so much. Should mean not too much added fat.

I honestly can't wait for the dermatrest to run out this week. It's such a pain to manage application and keep my clothes/body from transferring to my family. And with no gains? Screw that! But I'm so cheap that I can't stand not using it up!
 
That is exactly how I am! It's the only reason I even bother with this bag of BA. I bought because it was a good deal at the time and by God, I am going to finish it off! LOL
 
49:30 today. Felt gassed, but that's probably due to the full on cold I'm battling. Added a BronkAid right at the start to try and keep my chest clear. Overall, I felt pretty strong. Nothing crazy, but felt like I got through it pretty solidly. Time was good today, esp considering I'm not 100%. I'll take it!

Not feeling anything crazy from the epistane. Dermatrest ran out this morning. Only got 0.7ml out of the bottle. Rest of epi bottle will be run solo.

If anyone is interested in a sealed bottle of dermatrest, oral Tr3st, and I'll even throw in my leftover oral Tr3st, pm me. It didn't work for me, so I'd like to get some cash or a trade for something different.
 
Cardio yesterday was solid. Today's lift was 51:30. Again, gassed due to cold. But felt a tick stronger and even a bit more ready to attack the next set each time. Was just gasping too much to act on it.

Upped my epi dose to 60mg. 30 morning/15 pwo (noon)/15 afternoon. Need to finish cycle in 2 weeks so I calculated what was left and that gave me 60mg/day. 45 has been ok, I guess. Nothing majorly noticeable. Certainly not better than my runs of epi-andro, which is supposed to be way weaker. So why not try 60. I know 50 is supposed to be the sweet spot, but mine are 15 each. Moved my nighttime dose up to afternoon per VeinNutritions suggestion as well. Hoping to improve sleep and allow Comatize to do its thing better.
 
Are you taking epi with fatty food? Read somewhere that andros need it for absorption.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Are you taking epi with fatty food? Read somewhere that andros need it for absorption.
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Because of my IF diet, I can't do with food. At least the first 2 doses. I take it with fish oil. I've used this method with epi-andro and 4-andro in the past with success.
 
I was considering epistane for my next run. Sucks that it doesn't seem to be doing much for you.
 
habajaba said:
Because of my IF diet, I can't do with food. At least the first 2 doses. I take it with fish oil. I've used this method with epi-andro and 4-andro in the past with success.
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Same way I do it, fish oil is fat, this will work!
 
SFreed said:
I was considering epistane for my next run. Sucks that it doesn't seem to be doing much for you.
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I am going to say don't use me as a good example. My body is all kinds of screwed up. Highly stim tolerant, loves to gain fat, refuses to add muscle, and so on. Trest gets rave reviews, bit did nothing for me. Epi-andro is considered pretty weak by many, but worked well for me. I still think epistane is doing something. Pretty sure I'm getting some gains based on weight gain and I THINK I am slimming down a bit in the mirror. Just no massive bumps in strength. Jury is still out, but I'd be willing to run it again. Whereas I will never run trest again.
 
habajaba said:
I am going to say don't use me as a good example. My body is all kinds of screwed up. Highly stim tolerant, loves to gain fat, refuses to add muscle, and so on. Trest gets rave reviews, bit did nothing for me. Epi-andro is considered pretty weak by many, but worked well for me. I still think epistane is doing something. Pretty sure I'm getting some gains based on weight gain and I THINK I am slimming down a bit in the mirror. Just no massive bumps in strength. Jury is still out, but I'd be willing to run it again. Whereas I will never run trest again.
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I can relate to that.
D-Bol makes me sick after the second pill. Tren has all the bad sides, NPP makes me lactating, winstrol gets toxic mid cycle, epistane ruined my knees...

The roid-gods are not in our favor...
 
habajaba said:
I am going to say don't use me as a good example. My body is all kinds of screwed up. Highly stim tolerant, loves to gain fat, refuses to add muscle, and so on. Trest gets rave reviews, bit did nothing for me. Epi-andro is considered pretty weak by many, but worked well for me. I still think epistane is doing something. Pretty sure I'm getting some gains based on weight gain and I THINK I am slimming down a bit in the mirror. Just no massive bumps in strength. Jury is still out, but I'd be willing to run it again. Whereas I will never run trest again.
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My Brother from another Mother!
 
I liked my havoc run some 10 years ago. Strength shot up all crazy-like!
 
Cardio yesterday was on point. Lift 51:30 today to finish the week. Woke up feeling full. Post workout, the skin on my biceps felt like a bratwurst on a hot grill. Ready to pop open from the extreme pressure inside. Strength maybe slightly up, but endurance still struggling a bit. Probably due to this darn cold! Weighed in at 233.2, that's down 2.2# this week. If I had to guess, that's some of the water I was holding on the trest. We'll see what the next 2 weeks bring.
 
Sedation is 11 grams per scoop so 2.2 teaspoons per serving about. Start off with 1 teaspoon.

Clear your PMs too. Lol
 
49:45 today. Felt ready to attack today. But lost steam as the workout went on. Cold is almost gone, but probably still playing a part. Felt a tick stronger and pushed myself a bit harder than normal. Feel great after. Tired and shaky. I know I gave it all I had.

No noticable change from 45mg to 60mg epi.
 
justhere4comm said:
You should try this new Pre Workout I've heard tale of.. maybe you've heard of it? :)
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Haha. Funny you mention that. I ran out of RagNOrok and my monthly order is late. Dug around my supp cabinet and found a couple tubs of ModernPre. It still ranks as my #2. Pretty good besides the fact that moisture got into the sealed tub and I have to dig into it with an ice pick to scoop it out. But I do miss my Rag. On a positive note, at least I'm taking a break from that blend. Probably not a bad idea to help increase effectiveness once I go back to Rag anyway!
 
Cardio was great yesterday. Today's lift was 53:30. Felt plenty strong but still gassed. I've been taking a BronkAid to help with breathing and endurance, but I wonder if that's hurting the effects of Cordygen. I believe caffeine can cause this, so it wouldn't be too far of a leak to think ephedrine might too. Going to try dropping the BronkAid on Friday to see.

Still feel great and had a solid session. Wife even commented today on how big my arms have gotten. So something is working...

Still not convinced epistane is for me. Just like the trest, I do not feel anything crazy. Certainly not enough to make it worth even the mild liver toxicity. Epi-andro still seems more effective for me. Crazy as that might sound.

Maybe tbol next time, following in HGP's footsteps?
 
Life partners, eh? Makes A LOT of sense
 
Studhorse said:
Now it all makes sense! I left my tablet on last night and I woke up naked this morning.
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No, you just had a senior moment and forgot to dress yourself
 
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