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New guy with a question

Jtbell86

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I originally posted this in the wrong section so I'll copy it over here.

Hey guys, I've been looking at getting into more serious supplementation. I currently only use a pre-workout, multi, and whey. I have used anibol a1(I believe) in the past with little sides. I'm 31 and 6'2 207. I work on a hostage rescue team and as you can imagine it is extremely physical in nature. It's also a young man's game, so I'm looking to keep up a little easier. I've been working out and physically active my entire life.

One of my buddies that I work with gave me a stack that he runs and he swears buy it. I wanted to check before I start, being that I'm not that knowledgeable on the subject and it can't hurt to ask.

The stack is blackstone labs brutal 4ce: 4 androstene- 3b-ol, 17-one, caprylate and undecanoate

Built mass phase 1: 17b-hydroxy-2a, 17b-dimethyl-5a-androstan-3-one-azine

With blackstone labs gear support, and a serms for post cycle. Is this something that is going to be over board or will this be an OK transition for me? Thanks in advance.
 
DMZ and 4 andro is a fairly popular stack. IMHO there are better 4 andro products out there. BSL andros are way under dosed.

Stack will increase strength and size. Lean gains all the way. You'll need support and SERM. Do your research, you may also want to have an AI on hand to use if needed in PCT.
 
4-andro and DMZ. Unfortunately the 4-andro product only has 65mg per cap.

I would dose the DMZ at 30mg a day for 6 weeks. You can bump it up to 40-45mg the last 2-3 weeks if you feel good on 30.

Dose the 4-andro as high as you can up to 330mg a day based on the amount that you have.

I would get some TUDCA for liver support if you can afford it. It's good that you have a SERM for PCT.
 
irishiron300 said:
DMZ and 4 andro is a fairly popular stack. IMHO there are better 4 andro products out there. BSL andros are way under dosed.

Stack will increase strength and size. Lean gains all the way. You'll need support and SERM. Do your research, you may also want to have an AI on hand to use if needed in PCT.
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What is the better 4 andro product.
 
The brutal 4ce will do its job as a test base at that dose but won't really provide any additional gains. I would look into some CEL Tudca for liver support for sure, and maybe some SNS taurine for the back pumps. You'll know what Im talking about when they happen lol
 
Thanks for the responses guys, do you think the bsl gear support will be good enough on cycle, until I start the serms post? I have a specific liver support I could run instead
 
Honestly you should be fine, but always better safe than sorry if funds allow brother
 
jameschoi said:
What is the better 4 andro product.
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Andro the Giant by hard rock supplements is a pretty good 4 andro product. And like said above with a DMZ and andro stack you are definitely going to want to try and pick up some novla or clomid to run a 4 week pct after your cycle.
 
Am I good to just give this stack a 4 week trial run, or am I not really going to not get much out of it if I don't go a full 6?
 
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