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Yea I'm real pumped to give this a cpl months run once it's released. Hopefully b some good sales coming up so can grab some more Vasomax with it. Best pump product period
 
bloodnthunder said:
Yea I'm real pumped to give this a cpl months run once it's released. Hopefully b some good sales coming up so can grab some more Vasomax with it. Best pump product period
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I love HyperMax + VasoMax, but think the stack you mentioned would be great for those that do not want anything stim heavy!
 
AntM1564 said:
I love HyperMax + VasoMax, but think the stack you mentioned would be great for those that do not want anything stim heavy!
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Yeah been meaning to pick hypermax up to try. Again back to hoping there's a killer sale coming up
 
just a heads up, we will launch this no later than the second week of March, directly through our site, make sure you're signed up fo the newsletter!

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So I see that some of these are better taken daily but caffeine daily isn't optimal so what's the recommendation for dosing with this?
 
rtmilburn said:
So I see that some of these are better taken daily but caffeine daily isn't optimal so what's the recommendation for dosing with this?
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Since when isn't caffeine daily an issue? Personally, I only consume caffeine 3 days per week. I know people that consume it daily whether it is from soda, coffee or a pre workout.

If caffeine daily for you is an issue, why not just use this on days you need extra focus.
 
rtmilburn said:
So I see that some of these are better taken daily but caffeine daily isn't optimal so what's the recommendation for dosing with this?
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I don't see anything wrong with daily caffeine, within reason of course. It's always a good idea to take a stim-break every so often, but you'll want to take a break from NootropiMax every so often as well, so it's possible to cycle off both at the same time. I recommend taking NootropiMax daily, as some of the ingredients really shine after a few weeks of daily use, like bacopa, but even other ingredients that have acute effects may work better with continued use. With that said, it will still have acute effects, and it doesn't have to be taken every day.

I personally think that some people exaggerate the "downsides/negatives/etc" of moderate daily/consistent caffeine intake. Of course, you don't want to be stimmed out of your mind all the time, and people often have a bad tendency to keep increasing their caffeine intake instead of taking a break, but if you can manage to keep your caffeine intake to a reasonable level, it's a different story. I've recently lowered my daily stimulant intake to about 400mg a day or a bit less. You're looking at close to 250mg/day (approximate, it's an easier number to do math with) from NootropiMax, and then maybe another 100-150mg/day another time in the day, depending on my schedule and what I'm doing. Some days NootropiMax will be my only source of caffeine, perhaps if I'm just working out (I'll take it with a stim-free PWO), or just studying/working and not going to the gym, and sometimes I'll take the NootropiMax before studying/classes/work/etc, and then 100-150mg of caffeine (coffee or caffeine pills with stim-free PWO, or just a low-stim PWO) before my workout. Another option is to split the dose of NootropiMax, taking half of it at one time, perhaps before working/studying/etc, and then the other half later in the day, perhaps before a workout, and maybe add a little more caffeine/coffee/low-stim or stim-free PWO to it.

Actually, there is research that suggests moderate daily caffeine consumption (coffee, tea, etc, so not just coffee) is associated with less cognitive decline in elderly people.

Here are some interesting excerpts from the texts of relevant studies/papers:
Caffeine is a nonselective A1 and A2a adenosine receptor antagonist, and thereby it stimulates cholinergic neurons [26]. It has been shown in mice that both caffeine and adenosine A2A receptor antagonists prevent amyloid-β induced cognitive deficits [27]. Interestingly, a recent study suggested that caffeine reverses cognitive impairment and decreases brain amyloid-β levels in aged AD mice [28]. Chronic caffeine administration
has shown to have neuroprotective effects in the experimental models of hypoxia and ischemia, also related to caffeine action as adenosine receptor antagonist [29].
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Caffeine consumption has long been associated with enhancement of mood and cognitive functions, notably learning, memory and speed of information processing [1]. While having multiple biological effects, including increased cortical activity, the non-selective antagonism of adenosine receptors, particularly A1 and A2A receptors, is the only known central pharmacological effect that occurs in the dose-range of voluntary caffeine intake [2, 3]. There is also growing evidence that caffeine may not only provide cognitive enhancement in normal elderly but also symptomatic benefit for persons with Alzheimer’s disease (AD). Blockade of adenosine A2A receptors appears to attenuate damage caused by β-amyloid (Aβ), the toxic peptide that accumulates in the brain of patients with Alzheimer’s disease (AD) [4, 5]. Acute or long-term caffeine administration protects AD transgenic mice against cognitive impairment while limiting brain Aβ levels and increasing brain adenosine levels [6]. Memory restoration and reversal of AD pathology was also observed in mice with preexisting Aβ burden [7].
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muscleupcrohn said:
I don't see anything wrong with daily caffeine, within reason of course. It's always a good idea to take a stim-break every so often, but you'll want to take a break from NootropiMax every so often as well, so it's possible to cycle off both at the same time. I recommend taking NootropiMax daily, as some of the ingredients really shine after a few weeks of daily use, like bacopa, but even other ingredients that have acute effects may work better with continued use. With that said, it will still have acute effects, and it doesn't have to be taken every day.

I personally think that some people exaggerate the "downsides/negatives/etc" of moderate daily/consistent caffeine intake. Of course, you don't want to be stimmed out of your mind all the time, and people often have a bad tendency to keep increasing their caffeine intake instead of taking a break, but if you can manage to keep your caffeine intake to a reasonable level, it's a different story. I've recently lowered my daily stimulant intake to about 400mg a day or a bit less. You're looking at close to 250mg/day (approximate, it's an easier number to do math with) from NootropiMax, and then maybe another 100-150mg/day another time in the day, depending on my schedule and what I'm doing. Some days NootropiMax will be my only source of caffeine, perhaps if I'm just working out (I'll take it with a stim-free PWO), or just studying/working and not going to the gym, and sometimes I'll take the NootropiMax before studying/classes/work/etc, and then 100-150mg of caffeine (coffee or caffeine pills with stim-free PWO, or just a low-stim PWO) before my workout. Another option is to split the dose of NootropiMax, taking half of it at one time, perhaps before working/studying/etc, and then the other half later in the day, perhaps before a workout, and maybe add a little more caffeine/coffee/low-stim or stim-free PWO to it.

Actually, there is research that suggests moderate daily caffeine consumption (coffee, tea, etc, so not just coffee) is associated with less cognitive decline in elderly people.

Here are some interesting excerpts from the texts of relevant studies/papers:

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AntM1564 said:
Since when isn't caffeine daily an issue? Personally, I only consume caffeine 3 days per week. I know people that consume it daily whether it is from soda, coffee or a pre workout.

If caffeine daily for you is an issue, why not just use this on days you need extra focus.
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Didn't say caffeine daily was bad I said not optimal which is true.
 
rtmilburn said:
Didn't say caffeine daily was bad I said not optimal which is true.
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Fair enough, but I don't really see moderate daily caffeine intake as much less "optimal/ideal/etc" than daily use, at least not to any real significant degree. Also, on a bit of a tangent here, but I think responsible/moderate caffeine intake daily would actually be better than no caffeine intake at all, obviously in terms of acute cognitive and performance benefits, but perhaps even in regards to longer-term effects, but I suppose that's a bit off topic.

To answer the original question, you can definitely use NootropiMax as needed for acute benefits, or take a day or two off a week, etc, there's nothing wrong with that at all.

TL;DR:
I've seen people saying that long-term caffeine use is counterproductive to cognitive function, and I would have to disagree with that (see the above references), assuming moderate/responsible caffeine intake. Perhaps that is why I bothered to write out a longer response defending daily caffeine use, as I do not agree with some of the things being said about about caffeine in regards to nootropics and cognitive function.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Fair enough, but I don't really see moderate daily caffeine intake as much less "optimal/ideal/etc" than daily use, at least not to any real significant degree. Also, on a bit of a tangent here, but I think responsible/moderate caffeine intake daily would actually be better than no caffeine intake at all, obviously in terms of acute cognitive and performance benefits, but perhaps even in regards to longer-term effects, but I suppose that's a bit off topic.

To answer the original question, you can definitely use NootropiMax as needed for acute benefits, or take a day or two off a week, etc, there's nothing wrong with that at all.

TL;DR:
I've seen people saying that long-term caffeine use is counterproductive to cognitive function, and I would have to disagree with that (see the above references), assuming moderate/responsible caffeine intake. Perhaps that is why I bothered to write out a longer response defending daily caffeine use, as I do not agree with some of the things being said about about caffeine in regards to nootropics and cognitive function.
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Thanks I actually really appreciate it.
 
cubsfan815 said:
It shipped to all the loggers yesterday. You should be getting it shortly, sorry for the delay.
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Actually, it was said to have been shipped the 21st.

Depending on the shipping method..it is quite possible some of us will get it today!

What is today? I can't remember....
 
Ricky10 said:
Actually, it was said to have been shipped the 21st.

Depending on the shipping method..it is quite possible some of us will get it today!

What is today? I can't remember....
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Thursday the 23rd lol.

Sweet, hopefully people will pop a few when they arrive.
 
Nothing yet on my end but shipping to Canada always takes forever
 
Just got the promotional email on this product, I think I'll pick up a bottle to test it out. Work keeps picking up so now would be a great month a test it out.
Do you recommend taking a break after a couple months?
 
Asteele08 said:
Just got the promotional email on this product, I think I'll pick up a bottle to test it out. Work keeps picking up so now would be a great month a test it out.
Do you recommend taking a break after a couple months?
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Personally, I would take a break, especially if you're going to use other stimulants as well.

The email dropped guys, it is 23.99 for a bottle!!
 
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