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MG223

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6 week run. Nice and simple

Androvar epiandro
Sup3r-1 2/3/3/3/3/3
Sup3r-4 2/3/3/3/3/3
Eradicate as the bottle says
Fish oil and maybe creatine

Pct nolva and alphamax xt.

Anything else I should add in?
 
multi vitamin so u dont get the flu
 
Any particular reason to use Olympus for 1/4 instead of Hard Rock brand (which you used for Epi)?

I am trying myself to decide which brand to use, hence reason for question. Maybe just cost?
 
rkmich said:
Any particular reason to use Olympus for 1/4 instead of Hard Rock brand (which you used for Epi)?

I am trying myself to decide which brand to use, hence reason for question. Maybe just cost?
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Cost. Olympus had a good sale left from the Arnold so I jumped on it.
 
heyboy said:
multi vitamin so u dont get the flu
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I actually agree with this too. Not the flu part, but a mulitvitamin can be a great added benifit assuming you dont have one already. I would look at either Formutech Fitmen or Anavite by Gaspari.
 
NurseGray said:
I actually agree with this too. Not the flu part, but a mulitvitamin can be a great added benifit assuming you dont have one already. I would look at either Formutech Fitmen or Anavite by Gaspari.
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Il check them out, thanks for the heads up
 
MG223 said:
6 week run. Nice and simple

Androvar epiandro
Sup3r-1 2/3/3/3/3/3
Sup3r-4 2/3/3/3/3/3
Eradicate as the bottle says
Fish oil and maybe creatine

Pct nolva and alphamax xt.

Anything else I should add in?
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All the basics are covered. Nice and simple. You sir, are GTG.
 
So I order some ar1mcarepro instead of the blockade. Everything should be here by Friday. I'm on vacation next week so I think it will be a good time to get started. Il start a log after I get things going . Still researching a few things and looking into a new lifting program
 
MG223 said:
So I order some ar1mcarepro instead of the blockade. Everything should be here by Friday. I'm on vacation next week so I think it will be a good time to get started. Il start a log after I get things going . Still researching a few things and looking into a new lifting program
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I would advise against starting a new lifting program when you start your run.

#1 You won't know if you are getting gains from the program or the compounds
#2 Takes a few weeks to get your weights straightened out and acclimated to the new program as you know
#3 You want to be well into your program before introducing the run to get the fullest out of it

You're only doing a 6 week run which makes it a little worse too. Others may think differently, but most of us only have a chance to make a few runs a year and want to make them count. I wish I could've ran the andros for 12 weeks because things really didn't take off till week 6.

Just trying to help so you get the most you can get.
 
elo76 said:
I would advise against starting a new lifting program when you start your run.

#1 You won't know if you are getting gains from the program or the compounds
#2 Takes a few weeks to get your weights straightened out and acclimated to the new program as you know
#3 You want to be well into your program before introducing the run to get the fullest out of it

You're only doing a 6 week run which makes it a little worse too. Others may think differently, but most of us only have a chance to make a few runs a year and want to make them count. I wish I could've ran the andros for 12 weeks because things really didn't take off till week 6.

Just trying to help so you get the most you can get.
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Thanks for the info. After some reading I do plan on extending the cycle to 8 weeks. Currently I'm on shortcut to size but I start the last week of the program the week I want to start my cycle. I could restart it from the beginning.
 
MG223 said:
Thanks for the info. After some reading I do plan on extending the cycle to 8 weeks. Currently I'm on shortcut to size but I start the last week of the program the week I want to start my cycle. I could restart it from the beginning.
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If I can recommend a workout I would go with PHAT. You can look up the one by Layne Norton.

Delay your run by a few weeks to get acclimated to the routine. Start the run...kill it for 8 weeks...see the results....done!
 
rkmich said:
I use Anavite. More expensive than most, but one of the best IMHO
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I started Anavite this week and am happy with it. I definitely recommend it as well.
 
elo76 said:
If I can recommend a workout I would go with PHAT. You can look up the one by Layne Norton.

Delay your run by a few weeks to get acclimated to the routine. Start the run...kill it for 8 weeks...see the results....done!
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I like the majority of that program but I'm not a fan of the two push days back to back.
 
MG223 said:
I like the majority of that program but I'm not a fan of the two push days back to back.
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how do you see that? the program is usually push hyper - pull hyper - legs hyper - off - upper power (pushing and pulling some) - lower power - off
 
MG223 said:
I like the majority of that program but I'm not a fan of the two push days back to back.
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Yeah...where do you see that?

Day 1: Upper Body Power
Day 2: Lower Body Power
Day 3: Rest
Day 4: Back and Shoulders Hypertrophy
Day 5: Lower Body Hypertrophy
Day 6: Chest and Arms Hypertrophy
Day 7: Rest
 
elo76 said:
Yeah...where do you see that?

Day 1: Upper Body Power
Day 2: Lower Body Power
Day 3: Rest
Day 4: Back and Shoulders Hypertrophy
Day 5: Lower Body Hypertrophy
Day 6: Chest and Arms Hypertrophy
Day 7: Rest
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technically in that setup, chest+arms would be followed by upper power (with a rest day tho) so I could see that being his issue. The easy fix is simply to swap the leg g hyper day to the 3rd day so its U/L/off/P/P/L/off/U/L...
 
booneman77 said:
technically in that setup, chest+arms would be followed by upper power (with a rest day tho) so I could see that being his issue. The easy fix is simply to swap the leg g hyper day to the 3rd day so its U/L/off/P/P/L/off/U/L...
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That's what I was trying to get at. I like the program, Il just make a minor switch like you mentioned.
 
MG223 said:
That's what I was trying to get at. I like the program, Il just make a minor switch like you mentioned.
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Yep thats how I always use it. i have a full 6 day ppl version I use as well since that lower power day can be wicked with squats and deads
 
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