Kratom strains
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plang1234
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i dont understand...why are you so passionate about this subject? Did some Kratom addict steal yo' girl?
we are having fun, right?:wave:
yelis300
Member
I'm passionate about it because Kratom has a VERY HIGH potential for abuse. If you think I'm just spewing nonsense or B.S. then Why don't one of you try taking 20g/day for a month and then stop cold turkey. Report back here how you feel when you aren't on anything. Or go to blue light.org and read some threads on now people are trying to get off Kratom cause they can't.
muscleupcrohn
Legend
What you consider very high is quite relative though, no? We are all in agreement that kratom should be treated with respect/care/caution, so I don't really see a need to beat a dead horse here. 20g/day every day for a month is a pretty high dose; go out and drink several (or even a few) shots every day for a month and I expect that you'll have some problems pop up as well.
As I said, we're all in agreement that kratom should be approached with caution, and has the potential to be addicting. We're beating a dead horse at this point.
macedog24
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Agreed. its like everything else in this world.
Use caution and common sense with everything you do.
jarrellt67
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Either bali or red should do the trick. If you are feeling reaaaally anxious, try dosing about 6g with some food and 1g agmatine. I say food because large doses of kratom can feel really weird when you have low blood sugar. You could for example, grab a gatorade bottle and add kratom and agmatine and shake it up. Drink that **** and tell me if you still feel anxious
Man, that red thai has been pretty great. By itself it's a little stimulating at first but has a great mellow feeling later. I like it even more when combined with green indo. One tsp of the mix has me stress-free and in a great mood for half the day (once I dropped the lithium...which was dampening some of the positive mood effects).
ELROCK
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Glad you have found something that is working for you. Hopefully, it will be sustainable or you can find a few different things to help in that area. Rotating between kratom and a couple other things that can work for you on your off days.
Volvo140G
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My sentiments exactly. I've found the red to be the least palatable...
Volvo140G
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So I added 100mg of the Bali 20x to 6g green Malay and it was fantastic. I could feel the strength of the 20x but coupled with the effects of the malay it was a great experience, nothing overwhelming at all. Dried me out (kratom does this, the extract to a high degree) a bit and I slept like a babe.
jarrellt67
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Thank you. I overdid it a bit (taking it two to three times every day at 2g/dose) and started to experience some negative side effects an hour or two after each dose. So, I'm going to try the smarter approach and just take it two or three times each week. Guess I just got a little overexcited about finding something that finally worked really well.
I also tried the cbd capsules from MHK a few times but didn't like them (bad headaches an hour or so after taking them). However, I ordered cbd capsules from another company (that provides a COA for each batch) to try. They're a pretty popular company that my wife and I saw a special about on tv a while back.
hazard12
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For a period of time I used to brew my coffee and kratom together turkish style. **** was nuts...
You can either drink it straight like that (plant matter in general wont hurt you, if anything its fiber vitamins and minerals, which is why I never strain my kratom) or you can strain it with a coffee filter, although Id use something slightly more porous, otherwise the kratom will take forever to filter out.
I used to mix about 2 heaping teaspoons of ground coffee beans with about 2 rounded teaspoons of red bali and steep for 20min. After letting it cool off, id pour it in a plastic bottle and chug about half of the total volume to get me going. Id save the other half in the plastic bottle and take with me for a mid day boost. Make sure to shake as you drink so you dont end up with sludgetown.
Loved it but too much work for a daily habit haha.
Volvo140G
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Careful dude, next thing you know coffee reminds you of the taste of Kratom and you'll ruin it for yourself....
hazard12
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LOL, not a problem when you sip on your kratom. Give it time, it works much like coffee. The taste grows on you, however, there's some ****ty tasting coffee out there...same goes for kratom
Volvo140G
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Not a fan... does it stop me from enjoying it? Hell no. I first used kratom several years ago, didn't care for the taste then either.
rascal14
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I can guarantee that I will never enjoy the taste either. Over a year later and I still nearly puke when it gets stuck in my mouth.
That said, I'm thinking I'll order another couple ounces here soon. I'll have my girlfriend lock it in the safe and hide the key because I have no self control. lol
What's the most euphoric strains you guys are noticing recently? I know the Green Indo is popular from Mile High I think? Atleast kisaj is enjoying it.
rascal14
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I also need something that won't keep me up, since I take it at night. I have had some Red Marengo Da before but it was never anything special.
yelis300
Member
For anybody on here that enjoys Kratom, and I'm sure you all do, should look into kava kava as well. It's not an opioid like Kratom but is literally just as powerful. Really good to use when you're not using Kratom. Kava has what thy call reverse tolerance, the more you use, the more it works. Incredible anxiolytic properties. Not addictive at all. It does taste horrible, not gonna lie but totally worth it. When you find a good source and try it, you feel it hit you "almost" as much as Kratom.
rascal14
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I was looking into trying that as well. I see a lot of people compare it to feeling drunk though, and I hate the disoriented feeling when just sitting at home.
muscleupcrohn
Legend
I've only used very moderate doses of standardized extracts, and while it was nice, it was much more subtle than kratom. How do you take your kava?
yelis300
Member
No doubt, if you take too much, you don't want to drive anywhere.
hazard12
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Kava is actually pretty good for anxiety. phenibut or benzos is the closes thing I can relate it to. Ive only had it a couple of times tho...that taste is horrible..both times I gagged so hard. I might order some to deal with the EQ anxiety...its been hitting me recently.
yelis300
Member
Drink it like tea, as they do traditionally. I order bags of the ground root, from a good source, blend the root powder with hot water, but not too hot or it destroys the kavalactones in it. Blend it with the water in a nutribullet and strain through a nut milk bag. It's a process but it works the best. You can add some cream and sugar/honey to make it taste better but it still taste like s**t.
muscleupcrohn
Legend
Any reason why the extract wouldn't work? Perhaps I just have to dose it higher? I'm dosing it quite conservatively, in line with studies showing improvements in mood/anxiety, but I'd imagine that it's still much less than more recreational doses. I already have a fair amount of the extract caps, so will likely just experiment with those a bit more first.
yelis300
Member
In the past, when I was reading about it, I read that a lot of the kava out there is just not a good source. You probably need to up your dose more for recreation purpose or find a better source. Look for some kava paste, I think the strongest they make is like 45% kavalactones. Used to be much higher(80%) but some laws changes so now you can only get 45%. I've never tried it but looked at buying it a few times. Anyone here is welcome to pm me if they need more info.
yelis300
Member
The stuff I used had the consistency of rough ground coffee beans. Like sawdust actually. Probably don't have to blend it, but I do because I feel you will get the most out of it if you do. It's like I'm just making a big batch of water extract really.
muscleupcrohn
Legend
It's a 30% extract (HPLC) from a reputable source. 675mg per cap, and I think I've only used 1 cap at a time. Perhaps try 2?
ELROCK
Well-known member
So I did this and it wasn't too bad. A strong juice is a better mixer, but if all you have is your coffee then it works fine (much better then mixing with water). I wouldn't want to do it too often because it made the coffee taste no longer enjoyable.
macedog24
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Pr Maeng da is an energy strain, I wouldn't use it at night before bed.
Red vein thai is great at night .my favorite. Pr green indo is also used at night. You could always add some PR 20x Bali resin about 200 mg to enhance the effects.
PANDFAN
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the private reserve bali has been the most euphoric and just overall happy feeling one i have used...milehigh
macedog24
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Agreed it is very euphoric. Pr Bali also is euphoric if you haven't tried it. If you try a little of the 20x bali resin you will really enhance effects. But go easy on the dosing its very potent only 200 mg or so.
ELROCK
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Yeah dude I will never like the taste of kratom, but it doesn't prevent me from using it from time to time.
Green Indo is still my go to strain. It's just good to switch strains occasionally or mix different ones. I really haven't done much mixing, but I will start playing around with it more now.
yelis300
Member
I've heard others tell me the same thing, reputable source kava but not working for them. Maybe it's the way they process it? Kavalactones are sensitive and can be easily destroyed. Wouldn't hurt to try 2 or more. Also, the reverse tolerance thing is kinda funny, kava kinda works like MJ. First few times you try it, you may not feel much, then on that 3rd or 4th try, it finally hits you. Kava works like that. So you need to use a few times, then it begins to work.
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jarrellt67
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Anyone with sleep issues should really give cbd oil a try. One 15 mg capsule of CW cbd completely knocks me out. I don't wake up once during the night...which is very unusual for me. Only negative is the very realistic dreams that in my case can me kind of bad and it's a little difficult to get up in the morning (not neatly as bad as after taking phenibut though). Tried taking it during the daytime once but made me tired and pretty unmotivated (but did completely eliminate my usual anxiety).
kisaj
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I was thinking the same. I mistakenly took Kratom when I was sick and now I get nauseous thinking about the taste. Fortunately my love for Green Indo surpasses that. Fwiw- Green Indo is one of the worst tasting strains, imo. Maeng da is mild in comparison.
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