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All Natural Anabolics = Bunk?

This sounds corny. But PES went mainstream. When you start seeing companies placing their products in vitamin shops and gncs.. tbey have made it to the big time and really just have to work on marketing and damage control. PES are sellouts. They sell the same generic products like the rest of them.

Magnitropin was so different than the rest of the anabolics I've taken. Alphamax was a close second.

For me
-Magnitropin (incredible)
-Ara
-O.g. alphamax (they say the new one is better, not)
-PA
-D.S. tribulus or it could have been the other one. One of them was good.
-O.g. powerful

The rest were just a waste I bought into. I'm with Ricky. Fd2 did about two weeks. And I wanted to feel at least something positive. Nothing. Made me sleepy as hell, and just no vasularity or size.

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Another thing. Why are these ingredients including stamina ECT. Just get a dmaa or ore you like. Input/output. I feel a lot have lost the meaning of anabolic.
 
supplement companies need to catch up with its consumer .Today we live in a society where we are able to question anything and rightly so The mentality of those who train has changed.We are far more inquisitive and dont take things at face value.at least i hope not.

if they put a product out they need to make sure it stands up to its claims and have evidence to support them
 
Natty anabolics that worked for me:

-ArA
-Follidrone v1, Epicurus, Unleashed OL
-Anabeta elite v3 (newest version), had some success with v2 but the recent one treats me well

Other than that, the rest is crap in my experience. Pre-workout supps are not anabolic FYI.
 
banjobounce said:
PA is the best for the money, imo. I have recieved good result from both ARA and Evomuse's BMP in the past. Olive Leaf extract is an underrated and oft overlooked natural anabolic as well. Just my two cents.
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I've never heard this about Olive Leaf Extract, I supplement it daily and at higher doses for it's immune properties though..can you share more?
 
APC80 said:
Wasted money and time on both anafuse and anabeta elite they did absolutely nothing for me. People start eating better and training harder while taking them and that's where the results they report are mostly coming from. The placebo effect is a powerful thing.
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I wouldn't say that those products don't do anything, but maaaaaaaaan, you really nailed it when you pointed that people tighten up their diet and train harder then see results. I have pointed this out many times in relation to natty, SARMS, PH use. Most people have no idea how to count macros, nor do they know what a solid diet can produce.
 
Joe12 said:
I wouldn't say that those products don't do anything, but maaaaaaaaan, you really nailed it when you pointed that people tighten up their diet and train harder then see results. I have pointed this out many times in relation to natty, SARMS, PH use. Most people have no idea how to count macros, nor do they know what a solid diet can produce.
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Exactly and I think sometimes people get worried about putting on fat on a bulk(did this myself) but when they take something they think what the hell and eat more and train harder to make sure they're getting something out of their investment even if a bit of fat is gained as well.
 
Joe12 said:
I wouldn't say that those products don't do anything, but maaaaaaaaan, you really nailed it when you pointed that people tighten up their diet and train harder then see results. I have pointed this out many times in relation to natty, SARMS, PH use. Most people have no idea how to count macros, nor do they know what a solid diet can produce.
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Some truth there ^
 
pswain1 said:
I enjoyed the original version of anabeta elite. It increased my appetite and I put on at least 5#'s in about 45 days but when I tried the new version I didn't get the same effects.
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This was undoubtedly the best version and value of Anacylus Pyrethum extract. Someone needs to bring this ingredient back in solo bulk powder or caps.

TommyTuffGuy said:
I've never heard this about Olive Leaf Extract, I supplement it daily and at higher doses for it's immune properties though..can you share more?
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Oleuropein has lots of health benefits and is definitely an under rated and under utilized supplement.
 
hsk said:
This was undoubtedly the best version and value of Anacylus Pyrethum extract. Someone needs to bring this ingredient back in solo bulk powder or caps.


Oleuropein has lots of health benefits and is definitely an under rated and under utilized supplement.
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OG Anabeta is still king in my eyes for a natty anabolics!
 
I personally find Epi to be a complete waste of money. Tried several different brands both caps and td and noticed 0.
 
week 3 of laxogenin, nothing yet, got 8 weeks planned with a crossover to transdermal in 4 weeks
 
That creatine didn't work for me. Must be bunk
 
Thing is I've had better results adding a tablespoon of natural peanut butter to my bedtime shake than I got from anafuse or ABE
 
Admin said:
That creatine didn't work for me. Must be bunk
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You must get enough from your diet then, creatine isn't £50 for a months supply which apparently you have to buy 2/3 bottles to get the effect. Thing is you can afford to spend a fiver too see if something works or not.
 
APC80 said:
You must get enough from your diet then,
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That must be it.

Then again, I remember when creatine was expensive and all that time it was my diet.
 
Admin said:
That must be it.

Then again, I remember when creatine was expensive and all that time it was my diet.
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I get what you're saying, maybe I'm just a non responder. Some people don't respond to epistane somehow but doesn't mean it's bunk it works great for me. Maybe in ten years when (-)epi and Laxo are cheap they'll be a supplement staple like creatine.
 
APC80 said:
I get what you're saying, maybe I'm just a non responder. Some people don't respond to epistane somehow but doesn't mean it's bunk it works great for me. Maybe in ten years when (-)epi and Laxo are cheap they'll be a supplement staple like creatine.
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Right. If Epi was cheap I'd probably experiment more with higher doses for a longer period of time. I just don't find it worth the money when I can't tell if I'm getting any benefit from it. I get better results with bulk HMB powder honestly.
 
Chefdeez said:
Right. If Epi was cheap I'd probably experiment more with higher doses for a longer period of time. I just don't find it worth the money when I can't tell if I'm getting any benefit from it. I get better results with bulk HMB powder honestly.
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I get results from bulk HMB but its mainly more trips to the bathroom.

Cost means nothing given most people spend more in one night at a bar than what this stuff cost for a month. Its not really the point either.
 
Admin said:
I get results from bulk HMB but its mainly more trips to the bathroom.

Cost means nothing given most people spend more in one night at a bar than what this stuff cost for a month. Its not really the point either.
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I don't drink. Cost means nothing? Disagree. Some of us choose not to spend a ton of money each week on supplements. Some people love Epi and swear by it. For me it's not worth it.
 
Chefdeez said:
I don't drink. Cost means nothing? Disagree. Some of us choose not to spend a ton of money each week on supplements. Some people love Epi and swear by it. For me it's not worth it.
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And to some its a hobby they like spending money on just like any other hobby.

And yes, cost for epi to me means nothing because its not outrageous.
 
Admin said:
And to some its a hobby they like spending money on just like any other hobby.

And yes, cost for epi to me means nothing because its not outrageous.
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I don't really drink any more and my party days are over so I don't mind spending money on supplements, in fact I enjoy finding out what works for me and what doesn't I see it as part of the process really but I still feel like we are mislead by supp companies about what you can expect from some products in terms of strength and size. For example, before I bought anafuse I read a load of reviews on the site saying they'd gained anywhere from 8-12 lbs of muscle in a month and how it was stronger than PHs, as good as real gear etc etc. I feel stupid for believing it now but I wasn't into anything but creatine before that so was generally clueless about anabolics.
 
southpaw23 said:
As someone who has tried all of the top natty boosters, so-called muscle builders etc., don't get your hopes up. Beyond a libido boost (which is hit or miss), you won't see much from them. A lot of guys in their 20's take things and "think" they actually work, when in fact, they're in their prime and the results they're getting probably have nothing to do with natty products, just their own hard work. The two best natural muscle builders in my opinion are ARA and PA. I've yet to take anything else that comes close to the benefits of these two.
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At what doses did you take the PA?
 
Just use ara. That's the only natural supp that works. I've tried everything in terms of natties. None of them work. Not a single one.
 
Gotta figure out what works for you and know there's no miracle supplement. Several popular products are available at Nutriverse for 20-25% off when u stack code AM5 with our autodiscounts... gotta appreciate a heavier wallet ;)

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jameschoi said:
Bought ARA and soy leth. This chet better make me freaking Trump YUUUGE!
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ARA will produce results. PA increases strength. I stacked both and put on decent sized mass. In terms of natural products, the reality is, most will produce negligible results. ARA is the only one that produces measurable results. Get yourself a decent preworkout (Inspired Nutraceuticals DVST8), be consistent and give yourself 6-12 months to get close to your goals. From there..fine tune. It's a marathon not a sprint.
 
Sorry just jumping in here for some input.. has anyone with asthma used products with ARA? It's in the warnings for x-gels and my breathing is something I prefer not to screw with. Thanks!
 
I 100% get a huge libido/aggression/strength boost with quality tribulus. As far as "gains" on tribulus I feel they just come from drive/intensity. Can't speak for the more commercialized products you all are mentioning
 
THOR 70 said:
I 100% get a huge libido/aggression/strength boost with quality tribulus. As far as "gains" on tribulus I feel they just come from drive/intensity. Can't speak for the more commercialized products you all are mentioning
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What brand trib.
 
Nutrabio.com. Mine is from 2010 still works. Super Dark brown and bitter. Their site says now 60% saponins and mine is only 45%
 
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