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Hairygrandpas log, fat- and older people welcome!- diet, training, cycles, healing

hairygrandpa said:
Had a good workout, now thinking last episode was a freak incidence.
Cycle goes on.

Today my strength was not optimal so I changed the workout into a "pumping session", upped volume and did all exercises in superset fashion.
Got home totally pumped, looking twice as big, LOL.
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Last time I had a "pumping session" my wife almost caught me
 
Last time I had a "pumping session" my wife almost caught me
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Got caught once by my aunt, she said:
"Keep doing what you are doing -but don't make too much noise."

WTH? I didn't do too much noise, why would I be noisy while fapping?
 
hairygrandpa said:
Got caught once by my aunt, she said:
"Keep doing what you are doing -but don't make too much noise."

WTH? I didn't do too much noise, why would I be noisy while fapping?
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Pic of said Aunt?? Just curious
 
Alcohol dehydration and high temperatures are very taxing on the body. Glad you are feeling better.
 
Another pumping day at the gym

This week is pump-week.

Basically, I grab some DB's and pump, until no rep left, then I grab some lighter DB's and keep pumping away.
After that, going to the cables and do the same, always in motion, always pumping.

Shoulders? Pumped.
Lats? Pumped.
Legs? Pumped.
Triceps? Pumped.
Biceps? Pumped.
Chest? Pumped.

Coming home, eating like a maniac. Today: whole pack of spaghetti (for 5 persons) and 1 pound ground beef.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Another pumping day at the gym

This week is pump-week.

Basically, I grab some DB's and pump, until no rep left, then I grab some lighter DB's and keep pumping away.
After that, going to the cables and do the same, always in motion, always pumping.

Shoulders? Pumped.
Lats? Pumped.
Legs? Pumped.
Triceps? Pumped.
Biceps? Pumped.
Chest? Pumped.

Coming home, eating like a maniac. Today: whole pack of spaghetti (for 5 persons) and 1 pound ground beef.
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Nice Workout!
 
hairygrandpa said:
Another pumping day at the gym

This week is pump-week.

Basically, I grab some DB's and pump, until no rep left, then I grab some lighter DB's and keep pumping away.
After that, going to the cables and do the same, always in motion, always pumping.

Shoulders? Pumped.
Lats? Pumped.
Legs? Pumped.
Triceps? Pumped.
Biceps? Pumped.
Chest? Pumped.

Coming home, eating like a maniac. Today: whole pack of spaghetti (for 5 persons) and 1 pound ground beef.
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You have to post a nood after that pump of LOVE workout!
 
Cycle update:

For my last weeks I decided to bring down test to TRT levels and introduce Turinabol for hardening up.
Will go off of NPP in 4 weeks and keep T-bol for 6-7 weeks.
Going in a caloric deficit in 3 weeks.

175mg test-e/w (down from 300mg)
500mg NPP/w
40mg/day Turinabol

0.5mg adex eod (switched from exem to adex again, saving exem for cruise)
0.5mg caber e3d
Inhibit-P 3x day

No lactating anymore. Mood is good.
Strength fluctuates (weird, maybe need more rest). Weight fluctuates (probably while manipulating estrogen the last few days).
BP is slightly up, gets worse at night.
Joints feeling awesome, shoulder "seems" to be at 100% -but gives a sting when trying flat -or incline presses.
All T-shirts getting smaller -hip tire is a bit bigger too.
 
Your one hardcore champ :D!
 
hairygrandpa... I'm thinking of throwing my hat in the peptide world and want some suggestions. More than joint healing I'm looking for enhanced recovery and higher GH. What should I run? Also, have you ever tried follistatin?
 
mmorso said:
hairygrandpa... I'm thinking of throwing my hat in the peptide world and want some suggestions. More than joint healing I'm looking for enhanced recovery and higher GH. What should I run? Also, have you ever tried follistatin?
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Changed my mind about most peptides.
Doubting now that any IGF -or MGF does anything other than giving a "pseudo pump" (may be useful in healing though).

About GH, well peptides work as a cheaper HGH substitute -but I'm not convinced that they do anything for hypertrophy in a useful time span -unless paired with slin.
If GH "helps a bit" with hypertrophy -or body composition, after 6 month, giving you sleep trouble, lethargy, "empty wallet syndrome" and bloat in the process : fugg it !

The peptides I'll keep using are:
-Selank (works for me, enhances mood at low dose, sedative at higher dose)
-Melanotan 2 (libido, tan, curbs appetite)
-BPC-157 (for healing, probably together with MGF, seemed to me synergistic)
-TB-500 (healing)

What I'm about to try, already at hand:
-Epitalon (telomerase prolonging elixir of youth, will restore my hair, make my penis larger -and finally convert me into a rainbow colored unicorn)

What I will try in future:
-growth hormone secretagogues with a low dose of slin, pre-workout

Edit: Never tried follistatin -but if it has to be something "semi-legal", I would spend my money rather on Ment-ace and Letro than any peptide or natural stuff.
 
mmorso , at first I thought IGF-Lr3 was working, because it gave a pump and lowered blood sugar notably.
Then I read what Patrick Arnold had to say about it (look it up).
I used it anyway and dumped it finally, because I saw no gains from it.
I switched to IGF-DES and PEG-MGF. Same here, got great pumps, no blood sugar lowering effect -but did not perceive enhanced recovery from MGF.
After pinning a dozen muscles a day with that ****, for weeks, I saw NO progress.
The constant pinning is bad too, because every now- and then you hit a nerve. That is hell, I tell you -because it surprises you and makes you suddenly jerk and throw the syringe against a wall.
 
hairygrandpa said:
mmorso , at first I thought IGF-Lr3 was working, because it gave a pump and lowered blood sugar notably.
Then I read what Patrick Arnold had to say about it (look it up).
I used it anyway and dumped it finally, because I saw no gains from it.
I switched to IGF-DES and PEG-MGF. Same here, got great pumps, no blood sugar lowering effect -but did not perceive enhanced recovery from MGF.
After pinning a dozen muscles a day with that ****, for weeks, I saw NO progress.
The constant pinning is bad too, because every now- and then you hit a nerve. That is hell, I tell you -because it surprises you and makes you suddenly jerk and throw the syringe against a wall.
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Yeah fck that then

I ran MK for 3 months and loved the sleep. I was on LGD and the combination made my appetite out of control... I gained on my gut.

I've considered running it again but think I might gain a lil more BF on it... Idk

I also wanna stack slin with t3 and Test.
 
mmorso said:
Yeah fck that then

I ran MK for 3 months and loved the sleep. I was on LGD and the combination made my appetite out of control... I gained on my gut.

I've considered running it again but think I might gain a lil more BF on it... Idk

I also wanna stack slin with t3 and Test.
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Seriously, peptides for gains are junk, that is my final verdict.

T3 I don't gonna touch. It can be anabolic -and/or catabolic, why use it?
My go for a cut would be:
-Melanotan 2 for appetite suppression
-ECA/DMAA
-Anavar -or T-bol at 40-50mg/day
-test not higher than 500mg/w

I'm still experimenting with all kind of stuff.
Here the preliminary rules -and compounds I figured apparently work well for me:

Test: I use it only as base and let other compounds shine. If I go higher on test, sides get bad (high BP, prostate, e2, bloat)
Anavar: very nice for cutting -or recomp, no perceived sides, expensive
Trest/Ment: Awesome bulker, very stubborn e2 conversion, only with ralox and/or letro on hand
LGD: good bulker, low sides for me
NPP: best of the best for bulk, only with prami/caber
T-bol: verdict on it shortly -but have the feeling it will be one of the best to run with all cycles

Considered bad for me:
D-bol: toxic, makes me ill
Winstrol: gives me sides mid-cycle
Tren: worst sides ever
Masteron: never felt it, did nothing
Deca: kicks in when cycle is over (too late)
EQ: ups RBC too much, will not use

We all respond different, whats bad for me- maybe good for you.
 
T3 is lowered when on cycle so low dose (25-50mcg) increases protein turnover, enhancing anabolism. Stacked with slin, your basically taking away any possible catabolism (so I've read).

You got me concerned about running trest without letro or ralox... sh1t I should prob order some
 
mmorso said:
T3 is lowered when on cycle so low dose (25-50mcg) increases protein turnover, enhancing anabolism. Stacked with slin, your basically taking away any possible catabolism (so I've read).

You got me concerned about running trest without letro or ralox... sh1t I should prob order some
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It depends.
If you run oral trest or trest-ace at dosages where the fun begins, I bet my left nut (the bigger one) you will get into trouble.
If you use TD trest, some adex -or exem is enough.

The moment I use trest again (will be trest/ment-ace) I'll run ralox with it, like:

Ment-ace: 60-75mg eod
Ralox: 15mg day, upping if necessary
Letro: 1.25mg/eod, upping if necessary
 
mmorso said:
I'm interested in substituting var with tbol... you think you'll get similar results during a cut?
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More- or less.
Var is a Ferrari, Tbol is Mercedes. Strength gain should be similar -maybe a bit less on tbol, the hardening effect is better with var. Both are hard on lipids.
T-bol reduces SHBG = more free test and libido up! T-bol should be a bit better in building lean body mass.

Edit: T-bol is often faked. Look at amazon (no kidding) for : turinabol test kit. :)
 
Now I got two Great guys to help me when I decide to cross over to the peptide world! Hairygrandpa, and bighulksmash
 
BEAST73 said:
Now I got two Great guys to help me when I decide to cross over to the peptide world! Hairygrandpa, and bighulksmash
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You don't need to. Seriously.
If you have not already, I can't see how AAS will benefit you.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Seriously, peptides for gains are junk, that is my final verdict.

T3 I don't gonna touch. It can be anabolic -and/or catabolic, why use it?
My go for a cut would be:
-Melanotan 2 for appetite suppression
-ECA/DMAA
-Anavar -or T-bol at 40-50mg/day
-test not higher than 500mg/w

I'm still experimenting with all kind of stuff.
Here the preliminary rules -and compounds I figured apparently work well for me:

Test: I use it only as base and let other compounds shine. If I go higher on test, sides get bad (high BP, prostate, e2, bloat)
Anavar: very nice for cutting -or recomp, no perceived sides, expensive
Trest/Ment: Awesome bulker, very stubborn e2 conversion, only with ralox and/or letro on hand
LGD: good bulker, low sides for me
NPP: best of the best for bulk, only with prami/caber
T-bol: verdict on it shortly -but have the feeling it will be one of the best to run with all cycles

Considered bad for me:
D-bol: toxic, makes me ill
Winstrol: gives me sides mid-cycle
Tren: worst sides ever
Masteron: never felt it, did nothing
Deca: kicks in when cycle is over (too late)
EQ: ups RBC too much, will not use

We all respond different, whats bad for me- maybe good for you.
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Do you live in a pharmacy dude :D
 
Cycle update:

My blood pressure is way out of range:
Morning: 158/90
Midday : 180/121
Evening: 165/113

Dropping all AAS would take too long to modify this, so I googled around and found something very interesting:

Telmisartan

It's a BP reducing drug with some interesting side effects.

Telmisartan is the name of a drug that isn’t in the lexicon of most bodybuilders. The majority of steroid users have no idea what telmisartan is or what it does. But they should. It could very well be one of the most important drugs available to steroid-using bodybuilders who are concerned about their health.

The mass media does a great job of sensationalizing all sorts of negative side effects they would like to attribute to anabolic steroids. Unfortunately, they tend to exaggerate, overstate, and even make up dubious side effects primarily in an attempt to demonize the muscle-building drugs. These rare or non-existent side effects tend to be hyped up in the media while the common side effects tend to be ignored.

There are a few steroid side effects that affect practically all steroid users. These include things like increased estradiol levels (via the conversion of testosterone to estrogen when using aromatizable steroids) and things like anabolic steroid induced hypogonadism aka ASIH (via the suppressive effects of exogenous steroids on the body’s natural production of testosterone).

There are established medical therapies that can readily treat these problems e.g. aromatase inhibitors like Arimidex for elevated estrogen and selective estrogen receptor modulators (SERMs) like Clomid and Nolvadex for ASIH.

Drugs like Arimidex, Clomid and Nolvadex are already commonplace in the bodybuilder’s pharmaceutical toolkit. Where does anti-hypertension medication telmisartan come into play?

A third adverse side effect affecting most steroid users comes involves involves increased cardiovascular risk. An occasional steroid cycle may only cause transient changes in blood lipid values (e.g. triglycerides, HDL cholesterol, etc.) and blood pressure readings. However, the current patterns of steroid use are such that increasing numbers of users are doing multiple cycles per year for several years or even decades. Some bodybuilders are even using steroids continuously (or cruising on supraphysiological dosages of testosterone e.g. 200-400mg/week) for the same extended periods of time. This type of chronic steroid use could lead to more long-term problems.

It’s not so much that steroids cause people to develop cardiovascular disease. Many men already have risk factors and/or may develop problems as they get older, with or without steroids, due to genetics and/or other lifestyle factors unrelated to steroids. But if any of these factors are present, bodybuilding dosages of steroids generally only make matters worse.

High blood pressure (hypertension) is one such cardiovascular risk factors that already affects a huge percentage of the population. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) estimates that one out of every three American adults suffers from hypertension with systolic readings greater than 140. Another one out of three has prehypertension levels of between 120 and 140. Normal systolic blood pressure is 120 or less.

This means that tens of millions of Americans at at increased risk for heart attack, stroke and serious cardiovascular incidents due to prehypertension and hypertension. No rational person will suggest that steroids are behind this major health problem. Even though steroids are not the boogeyman they are made out to be, they often add additional risk. Bodybuilders with such pre-existing health risks should appreciate the importance of reducing or at least controlling and managing this risk factor before using steroids.

Telmisartan (brand name Micardis) is an angiotensin II receptor antagonist (angiotensin receptor blocker, ARB) used in the management of hypertension. It may not be the most popular anti-hypertension drug currently prescribed. Doctors may prefer to prescribe other drugs such as lisinopril (brand names Prinivil and Zestril) from the angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitor cateogry; metoprolol (brand name Lopressor) from the beta blocker category; or even losartan (brand name Cozaar) from the same ARB category as telmisartan. However, telmisartan may be the best choice for steroid users particularly those with prehypertension or borderline high blood pressure.

Steroid expert Bill Roberts has advocated the use of a daily once-per-day dosage of 20 to 40mg to reduce the risk of atherosclerosis, cardiovascular disease and/or stroke in steroid-using bodybuilders with prehypertension. This can also lead to improvements in HDL cholesterol levels, insulin sensitivity, mitochondrial activity, endothelial function and cognitive function.

Animal models have also shown that telmisartan reduces left ventricular hypertrophy (LVH) and reduces visceral fat. This should be of particular interest to bodybuilders. LVH is an adaptive response to intense weight training whose effects are amplified by steroid use. LVH is generally benign in highly trained athletes but it is associated with decreased cardiac function particularly as an athlete ages. Reductions in visceral fat are also associated with decrease cardiovascular risk.

A fascinating thing about telmisartan is that it can have performance-enhancing effects well beyond the health-promoting benefits. It is rumored that professional cyclists have been using telmisartan for many years to enhance endurance. Telmisartan’s pharmacological effect of PPAR-delta activation can significantly increase muscular endurance via increased oxidative capacity of type II muscle fibers. But most importantly, it is not included as a banned substance on doping control lists. For the purpose of improving endurance and also reducing visceral fat, Roberts has suggested a dosage of 80-160mg/day.

Some bodybuilders will see telmisartan (and high blood pressure drugs in general) as a drug solely aimed at harm reduction. If it doesn’t build muscle, why bother. These are likely the same bodybuilders who don’t even bother understanding the need for PCT. For the rest of us who use steroids but are interested in maintaining optimal health, telmisartan could be a wonderful drug to minimize the risk of cardiovascular disease, stroke and heart attacks, particular while using steroids, especially if we are one of the hundreds of millions of individuals suffering from prehypertension of high blood pressure.
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I got me some at the local pharmacy (no prescription needed in Bananaland) and popped one.
Will keep you all informed how this goes.
 
Hopefully this will set you straight so you can continue your cycle.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Exactly! LOL

Any sane person would drop all AAS and run to a doc.
Well, I'm different, like:

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Aren't the doctors bad in bananaland, though? haha
 
ryane87 said:
Aren't the doctors bad in bananaland, though? haha
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I saw at least 5 person die this year due to medical negligence, I swear. One of them was my accountant, a bit later his wife. I knew their medical history and they were literally killed by so called "doctors" who started treatment without proper diagnosis -later trying to fix their own errors and killing the patient. Keep in mind that here anyone can be a doctor, the corruption makes it possible. I once had a talk with a neurosurgeon, asking him if frontal lobe lobotomy was still practiced here...guess what, he didn't know what it was. Welcome to hell, if a person like that is your surgeon.

I'm better off using google if it's not surgery I need.(when this moment comes, I'm fugged, unless I have time for a drive crossing borders to Argentina -or Brazil)
 
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