1 andro and Epi andro cycle advice

James.fardos

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Hi

Im planning to run a cycle next month, and would like to have advice and recommendation to my cycle.
I did 1-andro cycle last year (my first). Didnt get much mass, almost zero. But my strenght increased a lot.

The cycle will be 7 weeks:

Super mandro: 330/330/440/440/440/440/440
Androvar: 300/400/500/600/700/700/700

On Cycle support: Blockade, joint support, multi vitamin and fish oil.

PCT:

Clomid 50/50/25/25
OR*
Nolva 20/20/10/10

DAA testbooster

Reduce XT last two weeks*

Letrone (OC AI) on hand*


I will go with Clomid. Will only use nolva if I get gyno signs.
My body fat is in the high end (I know), thats why Im going with dry PH. I will be happy if I get 4-5 lean mass and drop 3-4% BF.
My current weight is 86kg. And Im 45 year.


What do you think?
 
Definitely looks on point and you've covered all your areas. Both are great products and at 7 weeks I think you will see gains and strength this time ;) keep us updated with the progress and good luck
 
Thanks guys, will definitely post my result here later.
Regarding AI, I dont have a trusted source here in europe to get a pharma AI. But I think Letrone together with nolva would do the job.
 
James.fardos said:
Thanks guys, will definitely post my result here later.
Regarding AI, I dont have a trusted source here in europe to get a pharma AI. But I think Letrone together with nolva would do the job.
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Neither of those are wet so you should be find with letrone. Enjoy
 
Drop the DAA, it is pointless. If you want to run a test booster with your SERM, I would opt for AlphaMax XT, M-Test or Kingsblood. You do not need to run any of those either. If you do decide to run any of those, I would also save your Reduce XT since all three will address cortisol, as part of their many benefits.
 
Just wanted to give an update (this is not a full log):

I'm in my first day of week two. Yesterday was first time I felt more aggression at the gym. But it could be because I took a half dose pre workout. No signs of any side issues, and I hope to keep that through my cycle.
Today Im going to hit my legs, and will write an update during next week.
 
James.fardos said:
Just wanted to give an update (this is not a full log):

I'm in my first day of week two. Yesterday was first time I felt more aggression at the gym. But it could be because I took a half dose pre workout. No signs of any side issues, and I hope to keep that through my cycle.
Today Im going to hit my legs, and will write an update during next week.
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How has your energy levels and libido been so far?
 
Im 11 days into my cycle, and nothing really had happen yet. I know andro take time to kick in, but its annoying that 11 days has passed with no signs at all. Not even sides! The aggressions I felt last time, was related to the pre workout. Next week I will increase the dosage to:

440mg Mandro
500mg androvar

I hope to start feel the andro by beging of next week..
 
James.fardos said:
Im 11 days into my cycle, and nothing really had happen yet. I know andro take time to kick in, but its annoying that 11 days has passed with no signs at all. Not even sides! The aggressions I felt last time, was related to the pre workout. Next week I will increase the dosage to:

440mg Mandro
500mg androvar

I hope to start feel the andro by beging of next week..
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Give it time. In all honesty it may be another week until it starts to hit. Only thing I got that early on was a bit of the "feel good" energy from the epi.
 
James.fardos said:
Im 11 days into my cycle, and nothing really had happen yet. I know andro take time to kick in, but its annoying that 11 days has passed with no signs at all. Not even sides! The aggressions I felt last time, was related to the pre workout. Next week I will increase the dosage to:

440mg Mandro
500mg androvar

I hope to start feel the andro by beging of next week..
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Give it another week before upping the dose. I didn't get anything until I was into my 4th week. Also...if you up the 1, u will probably have to double your EPI to combat the sides.
 
It looks like andro had kicked in.. Much more aggressive and focused when Im doing my workouts. It feels like I can go on and on! Strength has increased a little bit. My sleep are still good.
weight = same
bf = same

As mentioned my libido is gone.. If I increase epiandro, will that help on libido?
Right now the dosage is 300mg 1 andro and 400mg epi andro. My plan now is to keep 1 andro at 300mg, and go for 5-600mg on EPI andro. Will this be too high? Im not worry about the hairloss from epi, cause its gone from a long time ago, so nothing too lose :-)

Please advice..
 
Yes. Your dose is too low. Increasing the EPI should help. I would just go to 1000 if you can. I ran 1250. You still might not get it back though. You could also try adding in 220-330 of the 4 Andro on top of it all.

Now do you not have the desire or it just ain't working?
 
Thanks.. 1000, its a quite high dosage!! I will increase androvar slowly up to see if it helps..
I'm not in for any wet components, as I mentioned before, my body fat is not in the lower end..

Now do you not have the desire or it just ain't working?>> BOTH :-(
Maybe most if it is in my head. As my last run with 1 andro killed my libido totally. And came first back 2-3weeks after my cycle. So I was expecting libido problems..
 
James.fardos said:
Thanks.. 1000, its a quite high dosage!! I will increase androvar slowly up to see if it helps..
I'm not in for any wet components, as I mentioned before, my body fat is not in the lower end..

Now do you not have the desire or it just ain't working?>> BOTH :-(
Maybe most if it is in my head. As my last run with 1 andro killed my libido totally. And came first back 2-3weeks after my cycle. So I was expecting libido problems..
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1000 really isn't high. I would work up to it and see if it helps. Like I said. ...it might not though. You could always add dermacrine if you can find it.

I would say that if you were expecting the libido loss, then you are making it not work. I recommend that you get yourself some 20mg cialis and take one. It's a nice confidence booster and should give you your mojo back. I've been there and it's helped me. It won't fix the desire, but will get you rolling again.
 
Subbing for results and feeback. I was gonna start this same cycle but I lost my job before buying my PCT stuff so I have to put it on hold for now :(
 
Elo76, thanks, I have already increased anavar and will continue increase it slowly. Will also consider the other options in worst case..

Raul87, a very good choice to put your cycle on hold until you get serm. This stuff will for sure shut you down.. I will post from time to time and share my progress..
 
James.fardos said:
Elo76, thanks, I have already increased anavar and will continue increase it slowly. Will also consider the other options in worst case..

Raul87, a very good choice to put your cycle on hold until you get serm. This stuff will for sure shut you down.. I will post from time to time and share my progress..
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No problem.
raul87 SERM can be had for <50. You can leave the natty supps out.
 
Finally!!! Andro is now working and its amazing.. did benchpress today and hit a new PR. It was great. Still have 3 weeks left, so Im looking forward..

Dosage: 1 andro 440mg, epi andro 900mg..

Strength = increasing
muscles = getting already comments from friends
BF = A little bit lower, but not much
Sleep = great. Getting better and better.

Down sides:
Muscle cramp
Libido totally fu... getting morning wood from time to time. But thats all. Cant win a battle with that..
 
Hi

Have 6 days left to finish my cycle. Need advice for my pct..

My result until now:

PR in bench, deadlift and squad. Specially in Benchpress the results was amazing.
bodyfat 3% lower
body weight 4 extra lean muscle.

Libido is still bad..

Next week I will start my pct.

Clomid 50/50/25/25
testbooster testofuel.
Blockade, multi vitamin & fish oil
creatine
should I begin Reduce XT from day one in my pct?
should I begin with letrone after week 2 in my pct? ( dont want to take any risk for gyno)

Thanks..
 
James.fardos said:
Hi

Have 6 days left to finish my cycle. Need advice for my pct..

My result until now:

PR in bench, deadlift and squad. Specially in Benchpress the results was amazing.
bodyfat 3% lower
body weight 4 extra lean muscle.

Libido is still bad..

Next week I will start my pct.

Clomid 50/50/25/25
testbooster testofuel.
Blockade, multi vitamin & fish oil
creatine
should I begin Reduce XT from day one in my pct?
should I begin with letrone after week 2 in my pct? ( dont want to take any risk for gyno)

Thanks..
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Nice! Around the same results I had. I held my strength too. Lower the training volume in PCT and keep the weight heavy. Watch...I bet you keep increasing like i did. I did sets of 3 on my core lifts.

Clomid dosing looks good.
What made your choose testofuel? I'm not a fan of DAA though. If you can, go with alphamax xt or kings blood. Both are superior IMO.
If you're going to run testofuel, then start the Reduce day one.

If you were running Alphamax, you wouldn't need any of the other products because it's an all in one. If you choose the latter, then you could start letrone at 1 cap a day on your 3rd week and up it to 2 caps a day for the 4 weeks after PCT. You are pretty safe from rebound gyno here.

I'm guessing if your libido is in the crapper now, it's only going to get worse once you start pct. Took me over a week into PCT to start to feel better. It will come back though. Like I said before. Pick up some cialis for these tough times.
 
I had already a bottle of testofuel. And its legal to import ☺
I found a UK source and will order Alphamax xt.. thanks..

I also think I can keep my strength. Did that last year on my andro cycle..
 
I'm one week in my pct and its going great. I added alphamax xt and running it with clomid. My strength is still increasing, bodyweight same. My libidio is getting back, not 100% but way better than before. Muscle cramp are gone, and my sleep are still good.
thanks to all who gave me advice on my cycle, specially to elo76..
I will write a week or two after end my pct..

For guys whos considering a smilar stack, I must say go, it's real stuff..
 
I'm one week in my pct and its going great. I added alphamax xt and running it with clomid. My strength is still increasing, bodyweight same. My libidio is getting back, not 100% but way better than before. Muscle cramp are gone, and my sleep are still good.
thanks to all who gave me advice on my cycle, specially to elo76..
I will write a week or two after end my pct..

For guys whos considering a smilar stack, I must say go, it's real stuff..
 
James.fardos said:
I'm one week in my pct and its going great. I added alphamax xt and running it with clomid. My strength is still increasing, bodyweight same. My libidio is getting back, not 100% but way better than before. Muscle cramp are gone, and my sleep are still good.
thanks to all who gave me advice on my cycle, specially to elo76..
I will write a week or two after end my pct..

For guys whos considering a smilar stack, I must say go, it's real stuff..
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No problem. Glad I could help.

You could also add maybe 50mg of zinc picolinate at night. That usually kicks my libido up a little bit. I take it as a staple.

Alphamax has zma in it, but it's a low dose.

Keep us posted.
 
James.fardos said:
Thanks.. 1000, its a quite high dosage!! I will increase androvar slowly up to see if it helps..
I'm not in for any wet components, as I mentioned before, my body fat is not in the lower end..

Now do you not have the desire or it just ain't working?>> BOTH :-(
Maybe most if it is in my head. As my last run with 1 andro killed my libido totally. And came first back 2-3weeks after my cycle. So I was expecting libido problems..
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elo76 said:
1000 really isn't high. I would work up to it and see if it helps. Like I said. ...it might not though. You could always add dermacrine if you can find it.

I would say that if you were expecting the libido loss, then you are making it not work. I recommend that you get yourself some 20mg cialis and take one. It's a nice confidence booster and should give you your mojo back. I've been there and it's helped me. It won't fix the desire, but will get you rolling again.
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1000mg is not high. It is only high because most companies are dosing their EpiAndro really low.

Ive ran it up to 1200mg per day, and taken 600 to 800mg pre workout.

Look into Olympus Labs Sup3r Epi ELITE, I believe its dosed @ 250mg per cap

And yes, increasing the Epi, should help out with libido and lethargy issues.
 
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