How To MAXIMIZIE A TD cycle?

Bry11 said:
Sounds like it's worth a shot for sure. Especially if the breathing is that bad. I'm having second thoughts on running the tren. Everyone I know who's taking it says the breathing gets hard
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The "breathing hard" part is keeping me from finalising my order so looking towards a bold only cycle, length to be determined.
 
JulzRulz said:
The "breathing hard" part is keeping me from finalising my order so looking towards a bold only cycle, length to be determined.
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Me too. Might just get more test and bold instead.
 
guys don't get me wrong breathing hard is nothingggg like annoying at it's worst.
now fukkin blood pressure what's gets me on every cycle.
sorry if I made breathing heavy sound too bad lol
 
hamdysayed said:
guys don't get me wrong breathing hard is nothingggg like annoying at it's worst.
now fukkin blood pressure what's gets me on every cycle.
sorry if I made breathing heavy sound too bad lol
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Not just you! That's what gets to me. But I still might try it. Because I would only use pwo as a boost.
 
Question for yall, so do you notice a big difference in running the 100/100 blends vs. Just buying 2 bottles of a 50/50 blend? Pct right now but i am prepping for my next order and i wanna know if the extra money to make a stronger blend is worth it or i can just buy more bottles and be on longer
 
JulzRulz said:
The "breathing hard" part is keeping me from finalising my order so looking towards a bold only cycle, length to be determined.
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It reminds me of a fat dude at McDonalds. It's not like it's hard to breathe but walking up three flights of stairs feels like twelve flights. Workouts are intense and I'm constantly out of breathe and pouring sweat. I don't get insomnia really. I do wake up drenched in sweat. Thought my dog pissed the bed bc our down comforter was drenched.
 
The hard breathing is probably from putting on so much weight so quick.
 
Woody said:
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Gentlemen, I will be starting a TD cycle tomorrow and I need as many tips as you got from your experiences! I do have a question in mind, how long would you guys say I should wait after applying before I wear clothes? Anyone notice or know of an estimated absorption time?
 
hazard12 said:
Gentlemen, I will be starting a TD cycle tomorrow and I need as many tips as you got from your experiences! I do have a question in mind, how long would you guys say I should wait after applying before I wear clothes? Anyone notice or know of an estimated absorption time?
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10 minutes and 6 hours approximately
 
yates84 said:
The hard breathing is probably from putting on so much weight so quick.
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I have to agree with you there bro, I've been completely natty in the past and gone on a "foodie" holiday and put on shed loads of weight and in a week I could hardly breath, it's happened a few times. My breathing ain't too bad tbh though, I feel it a bit when I get it but doesn't fuk me over. And i smoke. Another thing to consider hamdysayed if you've tried gw before, for me it gave my breathing a huge boost, lungs full of air style..
 
hazard12 said:
Gentlemen, I will be starting a TD cycle tomorrow and I need as many tips as you got from your experiences! I do have a question in mind, how long would you guys say I should wait after applying before I wear clothes? Anyone notice or know of an estimated absorption time?
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You'll really want to rotate sites and try to get some aloe vera gel that will help a lot if you get a rash like me.
If you are getting tren and there's crystals in it do not rub them in, it's like rubbing crushed lightbulb onto your skin
 
solidsnake said:
I have to agree with you there bro, I've been completely natty in the past and gone on a "foodie" holiday and put on shed loads of weight and in a week I could hardly breath, it's happened a few times. My breathing ain't too bad tbh though, I feel it a bit when I get it but doesn't fuk me over. And i smoke. Another thing to consider hamdysayed if you've tried gw before, for me it gave my breathing a huge boost, lungs full of air style..
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Only thing about gw you gotta worry about is its negative effect on cellular regeneration in the liver so not a good choice if using a methylated compound like epistane.
 
Noted, I have a heavy moisturizer (Dove) that I use whenever my skin gets dry, Im sure itll do the trick in case this happens. I wont be using tren (luckily/sadly?) I am doing Test and Boldenone at 50mg/ml.
 
yates84 said:
Only thing about gw you gotta worry about is its negative effect on cellular regeneration in the liver so not a good choice if using a methylated compound like epistane.
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Thank you for stopping by and dropping some knowledge brother!
 
hazard12 said:
Noted, I have a heavy moisturizer (Dove) that I use whenever my skin gets dry, Im sure itll do the trick in case this happens. I wont be using tren (luckily/sadly?) I am doing Test and Boldenone at 50mg/ml.
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I use Vaseline.
 
hazard12 said:
Noted, I have a heavy moisturizer (Dove) that I use whenever my skin gets dry, Im sure itll do the trick in case this happens. I wont be using tren (luckily/sadly?) I am doing Test and Boldenone at 50mg/ml.
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You will love em.. im running both as well
 
Bry11 said:
You will love em.. im running both as well
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Sweet! What dosages are you running and how would you compare that one to different dosages you have tried (if any). If you wanna take a look at what ive been doing and will be doing feel free to pop up in my log: Invalid Link Removed
 
Woody said:
It reminds me of a fat dude at McDonalds. It's not like it's hard to breathe but walking up three flights of stairs feels like twelve flights. Workouts are intense and I'm constantly out of breathe and pouring sweat. I don't get insomnia really. I do wake up drenched in sweat. Thought my dog pissed the bed bc our down comforter was drenched.
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Lol I get what you're saying however as I have dedicated cardio days (3-4 hours road cycling with up hills every Sat/Sun and also hiking) I fear it will mess me up.

Anyway still undecided, still benched for a couple more weeks due to surgery last week so we'll see...
 
hazard12 said:
Noted, I have a heavy moisturizer (Dove) that I use whenever my skin gets dry, Im sure itll do the trick in case this happens. I wont be using tren (luckily/sadly?) I am doing Test and Boldenone at 50mg/ml.
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How long will your cycle be? Test/bold is one of my options at 100mg/ml.
 
JulzRulz said:
How long will your cycle be? Test/bold is one of my options at 100mg/ml.
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If you go to my log I have all the layout there. As of right now, all together it will be 12 weeks but I am starting with a "clinical" dosage for injury repair to get my **** solid since im coming out of a 2 year injury. After 4 weeks at that dose im upping to 100mg/day of both for 8 weeks and adding a short burst of methyldiazirinol for 6 weeks. Depending on how I feel towards the end of the cycle I might opt for extending it 2-4 more weeks on 100mg/day of both. I will probably get some bloodwork done before extending tho, I wont extend until knowing my liver and lipid profile are manageable.
 
hazard12 said:
Sweet! What dosages are you running and how would you compare that one to different dosages you have tried (if any). If you wanna take a look at what ive been doing and will be doing feel free to pop up in my log: Invalid Link Removed
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I'm doing .75 ml 2xed of both test and bold. I'm going to up to 1ml soon. I prefer the lowest dose possible of everything. Plus I just got back on so my receptors should be pretty fresh. But I love both of em. I'm doing a recomp and they are allowing me to keep sizeverything and strength while cutting fat.
 
Bry11 said:
I'm doing 7.5 ml 2xed of both test and bold. I'm going to up to 1ml soon. I prefer the lowest dose possible of everything. Plus I just got back on so my receptors should be pretty fresh. But I love both of em. I'm doing a recomp and they are allowing me to keep sizeverything and strength while cutting fat.
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Do you mean .75 bro?
 
Bry11 said:
I'm doing 7.5 ml 2xed of both test and bold. I'm going to up to 1ml soon. I prefer the lowest dose possible of everything. Plus I just got back on so my receptors should be pretty fresh. But I love both of em. I'm doing a recomp and they are allowing me to keep sizeverything and strength while cutting fat.
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Sweeeet, Thats pretty much my plan for the 1rst 4 weeks. Im doing 1ml of both E2D stacked with some cutting/recomp supps to do a recomp/rehab phase and then as my receptors get used to it and im shutting down, im upping to get into the real meat of it.
 
hazard12 said:
Sweeeet, Thats pretty much my plan for the 1rst 4 weeks. Im doing 1ml of both E2D stacked with some cutting/recomp supps to do a recomp/rehab phase and then as my receptors get used to it and im shutting down, im upping to get into the real meat of it.
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So ur only going to be dosing e2d? Or 1ml total over 2 days? Also as far as cutting/ recomp supps I started both sup3r shred aNd sup3r 7 a couple weeks ago and I love em.
 
Bry11 said:
So ur only going to be dosing e2d? Or 1ml total over 2 days? Also as far as cutting/ recomp supps I started both sup3r shred aNd sup3r 7 a couple weeks ago and I love em.
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Well the way I thought about it was either 1ml of one on one day and 1ml of the other the next day and alternate or 0.5ml of each every morning. The latter is probably smarter to keep more steady levels of both tho. Im with you on the sup3r-shred, I started taking that and invictus this week and I can tell the difference. I am running a pretty extensive natty stack for reasons I get into in my log but they are all helping and lets be real, recomp is something u gotta push with every angle cause your body just doesnt like recomping so thats what im doing haha. During the 1rst 4 weeks of my cycle im also adding 7-keto to my stack, im excited to see how its all gonna work out together haha. Im definitely getting my diet in perfect check to maximize the potential of all of this stack.
 
I hear ya on the hittin it from every angle. I'm a meso-endomorph so at least my body likes to hold on to muscle. It also likes to hold on to fat too. :(
 
hazard12 said:
Well the way I thought about it was either 1ml of one on one day and 1ml of the other the next day and alternate or 0.5ml of each every morning. The latter is probably smarter to keep more steady levels of both tho. Im with you on the sup3r-shred, I started taking that and invictus this week and I can tell the difference. I am running a pretty extensive natty stack for reasons I get into in my log but they are all helping and lets be real, recomp is something u gotta push with every angle cause your body just doesnt like recomping so thats what im doing haha. During the 1rst 4 weeks of my cycle im also adding 7-keto to my stack, im excited to see how its all gonna work out together haha. Im definitely getting my diet in perfect check to maximize the potential of all of this stack.
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I would dose at least once a day.
 
Bry11 said:
I hear ya on the hittin it from every angle. I'm a meso-endomorph so at least my body likes to hold on to muscle. It also likes to hold on to fat too. :(
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Dawg, thats literally my body type haha although probably more endo than meso. Glad to hear this stack is working for our body comp. And yeah, im going to go with half a ml a day, idk why im even considering the other one haha
 
Hey hazard12 I just checked out your log a little. Its very thorough and scientific. I love your "take every supp and see what happens" line. Also you got some writing skills. Compared to me at least. and you are on a but load of ai/serms and your not on any hormones yet?
 
Bry11 said:
Hey hazard12 I just checked out your log a little. Its very thorough and scientific. I love your "take every supp and see what happens" line. Also you got some writing skills. Compared to me at least. and you are on a but load of ai/serms and your not on any hormones yet?
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Thanks man, Ive been polishing this plan for months now. Theres a lot at stake for me so im going balls to the wall on this one. I have not yet started hormones, I had a gyno flare to kill and wanted to have a better foundation before starting the hormones. I am now where i wanted to be precycle to tomorrow im having bloods and starting my cycle right after :)
 
hazard12 said:
Thanks man, Ive been polishing this plan for months now. Theres a lot at stake for me so im going balls to the wall on this one. I have not yet started hormones, I had a gyno flare to kill and wanted to have a better foundation before starting the hormones. I am now where i wanted to be precycle to tomorrow im having bloods and starting my cycle right after :)
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Awsome man! I like your approach to this! Go big or go home! Lol :D
 
Bry11 said:
Awsome man! I like your approach to this! Go big or go home! Lol :D
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Yup, and considering how much the doctor and therapist bills were ****ing me without any real improvement, my stack isnt even that expensive for what im already getting out of it....and i havent even started the hormones...i can already say this stack has been one of the best investments ive ever done
 
Hey guys, I have a question for yall: Anyone knows whether tattoos affect TD absorption? I have bee avoiding them when applying dermastr3ngth and invictus but I honestly have no idea just a hunch. Itd be nice to know so I can either use more skin or beware of accidentally applying the hormones there.
 
hazard12 said:
Hey guys, I have a question for yall: Anyone knows whether tattoos affect TD absorption? I have bee avoiding them when applying dermastr3ngth and invictus but I honestly have no idea just a hunch. Itd be nice to know so I can either use more skin or beware of accidentally applying the hormones there.
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I don't think so... I have alot of em and I apply td's over em
 
Bry11 said:
I don't think so... I have alot of em and I apply td's over em
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Arent tattoos technically scarred though? I thought I read they have a lot more fibrils and is basically thicker skin. You might be right though, they might just take longer to absorb there.
 
I'm not the best person to ask. yates84 where you at brother! We need your pearls of wisdom
 
hazard12 said:
Arent tattoos technically scarred though? I thought I read they have a lot more fibrils and is basically thicker skin. You might be right though, they might just take longer to absorb there.
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Dang, thats a good question.
 
hazard12 said:
Hey guys, I have a question for yall: Anyone knows whether tattoos affect TD absorption? I have bee avoiding them when applying dermastr3ngth and invictus but I honestly have no idea just a hunch. Itd be nice to know so I can either use more skin or beware of accidentally applying the hormones there.
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Found this little snippet on a trandermal forum.

Absorption rates vary based on an individual's physiology, permeability of the patient's skin, application site, age and skin condition (damaged, scared or tattooed skin tend to affect absorption). To increase the absorption TAG should be applied to thin skin areas that are low in fat and experience continual movement like the back of the knee, inner leg, forearms, neck or shoulders.
 
Erikeckert said:
Found this little snippet on a trandermal forum.

Absorption rates vary based on an individual's physiology, permeability of the patient's skin, application site, age and skin condition (damaged, scared or tattooed skin tend to affect absorption). To increase the absorption TAG should be applied to thin skin areas that are low in fat and experience continual movement like the back of the knee, inner leg, forearms, neck or shoulders.
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Good info! So I talked to the guy that makes mine and he actually makes our TDs with tattoos in mind (He has plenty of them). Apparently the right % of DMSO will bypass the thicker skin problem by enhancing penetration. Obviously, I dont know if this applies to everyone, nor I can know or tell you guys what his recipe is. For now, I guess the question is solved: "Yes, with the right amount of DMSO" haha
 
hazard12 said:
Good info! So I talked to the guy that makes mine and he actually makes our TDs with tattoos in mind (He has plenty of them). Apparently the right % of DMSO will bypass the thicker skin problem by enhancing penetration. Obviously, I dont know if this applies to everyone, nor I can know or tell you guys what his recipe is. For now, I guess the question is solved: "Yes, with the right amount of DMSO" haha
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Thanks, thats good to know. All my application sites are covered in tattoos.
 
I have so many tattoos and td's work on them no problem. Technically, your tattoo should not have a lot of scar tissue if it was done right.
 
yates84 said:
I have so many tattoos and td's work on them no problem. Technically, your tattoo should not have a lot of scar tissue if it was done right.
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True, you are right on that one, If i run my fingers over my tattoos and regular skin the difference is minimal...YAY good tattoo artist!
 
hazard12 said:
True, you are right on that one, If i run my fingers over my tattoos and regular skin the difference is minimal...YAY good tattoo artist!
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All mine were done with parts from an ink pen and a motor from an electric razor lol
 
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