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Sup3r 11 replacement?

chainsaw

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I wanted to run this for a cut. I have only one bottle and I read it needs to be double dosed. I will only have enough for 4 weeks. I want to do 8 weeks, what can I run in place of super 11
 
Iron Legion has a transdermal VII-KT if you wish to stay with a transdermal.

From their site:
VII-KT
7-Keto Transdermal

VII-KT is 7-Keto DHEA — a naturally occurring byproduct of DHEA that is produced in the adrenal glands, brain and skin. There are about 150 DHEA metabolites, and 7-keto seems to be one of the most valuable among them. — in a revolutionary and patent-pending transdermal delivery system, designed to boost bio-availability to levels that would simply not be possible via oral administration. In other words it delivers more of the active ingredient 7-Keto DHEA into your bloodstream. VII-KT by Iron Legion represents the next step in commercial physique enhancing formulas, and the results it generates will need to be seen to be believed!

They have a President's Day Sale I believe still. 40% off with code: PRES. I responded better than with Sup3r-11.
I may take advantage of that Presidents Sale myself. bighulksmash
 
I think the carrier Iron Legion uses "Salvo" is superior to "OL's" for delivering and it smells incredible to boot. If you are feeling adventurous, you can buy Salvo for $19.99 and make your own suspension of whatever you want as long as it qualifies to be used in a transdermal delivery. (500 Dalton rule)

Just talked myself into another purchase.
 
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Source: Examine.com

This looks like a very appealing option for the price / value considerations make this an attractive addition to one's diet and exercise regime.
Then there is Invictus by Iron Legion.

Invictus
Beta-Androstenetriol Transdermal
The main ingredient in Invictus is beta androstenetriol (Androstene-3 beta-7 beta-17 beta-triol) — a powerful cortisol suppressant and immune boosting agent — in a revolutionary and patent-pending transdermal delivery system, designed to boost bio-availability to levels that would simply not be possible via oral administration. In other words it delivers more of the active ingredient b-AET into your bloodstream. Invictus represents the next step in commercial physique enhancing formulas, and the results it generates will need to be seen to be believed!

Iron Legion Invictus Key Benefits
  • Increased Fat Loss
  • Control Cortisol Levels
  • Maintain Muscle Mass
  • Reduce Inflammation
  • Improved Immune Response
  • Zero Conversion to HPTA Suppressive Hormones
  • Can be Used During PCT
  • Can be Stacked with Fat Burner of Choice
Androstene-3 beta-7 beta-17 beta-triol (b-AET) represents a key naturally occurring 7-hydroxy dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) metabolite. Produced from the adrenal gland, DHEA and its sulfate are the major circulating adrenal steroids in humans. Studies on Androstenetriol show its ability to strongly counteract cortisol and boost lymphocyte activity.

Cortisol is one of the body’s most abundant and important endogenous steroids. Listing in detail the expansive list of cortisol’s many functions in our body is a nearly impossible task, to summarize we can say that cortisol’s role in the human body is to break down bodily tissue and nutrients for the purpose of energy provision (to be catabolic), to act as an immunosuppressive, and to regulate blood sugar. In a nutshell, cortisol is responsible for inhibiting many of the processes that we as fitness enthusiasts want to start, and for starting many of the processes that we want to inhibit.1.

*1. Antiglucocorticoid function of androstenetriol.
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2. Auci DL, Ahlem CN, Kennedy MR, Page TM, Reading CL, Frincke JM. A Potential Role for 5-Androstene-3[beta],7[beta],17[beta]-triol in Obesity and Metabolic Syndrome. Obesity.
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3. Lu M, Patsouris D, Li P, et al. A new antidiabetic compound attenuates inflammation and insulin resistance in Zucker diabetic fatty rats. American Journal of Physiology – Endocrinology and Metabolism 2010;298(5):E1036-E48.
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4. Malik AK, Khaldoyanidi S, Auci DL, et al. 5-androstene-3,7,17-triol (b-AET) Slows Thermal Injury Induced Osteopenia in Mice: Relation to Aging and Osteoporosis. PLoS ONE;5(10):e13566.
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5. Marcu AC, Paccione KE, Barbee RW, et al. Androstenetriol Immunomodulation Improves Survival in a Severe Trauma Hemorrhage Shock Model. The Journal of Trauma 2007;63(3):662-9.

6. Pharmacology and immune modulating properties of 5-androstene-3β,7β,17β-triol, a DHEA metabolite in the human metabolome.
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7. Phase I and Phase II clinical trials of androst-5-ene-3β,7β,17β-triol
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8. 5-Androstene-3β,7β,17β-triol (β-AET) Slows Thermal Injury Induced Osteopenia in Mice: Relation to Aging and Osteoporosis
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*Referenced Post

IronLegion
 
justhere4comm said:
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Source: Examine.com

This looks like a very appealing option for the price / value considerations make this an attractive addition to one's diet and exercise regime.
Then there is Invictus by Iron Legion.

Invictus
Beta-Androstenetriol Transdermal
The main ingredient in Invictus is beta androstenetriol (Androstene-3 beta-7 beta-17 beta-triol) — a powerful cortisol suppressant and immune boosting agent — in a revolutionary and patent-pending transdermal delivery system, designed to boost bio-availability to levels that would simply not be possible via oral administration. In other words it delivers more of the active ingredient b-AET into your bloodstream. Invictus represents the next step in commercial physique enhancing formulas, and the results it generates will need to be seen to be believed!

Iron Legion Invictus Key Benefits
  • Increased Fat Loss
  • Control Cortisol Levels
  • Maintain Muscle Mass
  • Reduce Inflammation
  • Improved Immune Response
  • Zero Conversion to HPTA Suppressive Hormones
  • Can be Used During PCT
  • Can be Stacked with Fat Burner of Choice
Androstene-3 beta-7 beta-17 beta-triol (b-AET) represents a key naturally occurring 7-hydroxy dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) metabolite. Produced from the adrenal gland, DHEA and its sulfate are the major circulating adrenal steroids in humans. Studies on Androstenetriol show its ability to strongly counteract cortisol and boost lymphocyte activity.

Cortisol is one of the body’s most abundant and important endogenous steroids. Listing in detail the expansive list of cortisol’s many functions in our body is a nearly impossible task, to summarize we can say that cortisol’s role in the human body is to break down bodily tissue and nutrients for the purpose of energy provision (to be catabolic), to act as an immunosuppressive, and to regulate blood sugar. In a nutshell, cortisol is responsible for inhibiting many of the processes that we as fitness enthusiasts want to start, and for starting many of the processes that we want to inhibit.1.

*1. Antiglucocorticoid function of androstenetriol.
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2. Auci DL, Ahlem CN, Kennedy MR, Page TM, Reading CL, Frincke JM. A Potential Role for 5-Androstene-3[beta],7[beta],17[beta]-triol in Obesity and Metabolic Syndrome. Obesity.
Invalid Link Removed

3. Lu M, Patsouris D, Li P, et al. A new antidiabetic compound attenuates inflammation and insulin resistance in Zucker diabetic fatty rats. American Journal of Physiology – Endocrinology and Metabolism 2010;298(5):E1036-E48.
Invalid Link Removed

4. Malik AK, Khaldoyanidi S, Auci DL, et al. 5-androstene-3,7,17-triol (b-AET) Slows Thermal Injury Induced Osteopenia in Mice: Relation to Aging and Osteoporosis. PLoS ONE;5(10):e13566.
Invalid Link Removed

5. Marcu AC, Paccione KE, Barbee RW, et al. Androstenetriol Immunomodulation Improves Survival in a Severe Trauma Hemorrhage Shock Model. The Journal of Trauma 2007;63(3):662-9.

6. Pharmacology and immune modulating properties of 5-androstene-3β,7β,17β-triol, a DHEA metabolite in the human metabolome.
Invalid Link Removed

7. Phase I and Phase II clinical trials of androst-5-ene-3β,7β,17β-triol
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8. 5-Androstene-3β,7β,17β-triol (β-AET) Slows Thermal Injury Induced Osteopenia in Mice: Relation to Aging and Osteoporosis
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*Referenced Post

IronLegion
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7keto dhea is good stuff but it's not a replacement for 11ketotestosterone. One is a non anabolic cutting agent the other is a steroid. You just can't put them on the same playing field.
 
chainsaw said:
Isn't icon and iron legion the same? I tried icon and hated it
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Not the same, but Iconic Formulations Licensed Iron Legions carrier to make Icon 11. It should be quite similar to our old product XI-KT.

What didn't you like about your run with Icon 11?
 
delsolrob said:
Not the same, but Iconic Formulations Licensed Iron Legions carrier to make Icon 11. It should be quite similar to our old product XI-KT.

What didn't you like about your run with Icon 11?
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1st time I ever got gyno, I didn't make sense just left me with a bad taste, 2 weeks in I noticed gyno
 
chainsaw said:
1st time I ever got gyno, I didn't make sense just left me with a bad taste, 2 weeks in I noticed gyno
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I'm guessing you had a gyno flair up, and not that it actually caused gyno?

Strange, but there's always a risk when playing with hormonals.
 
delsolrob said:
I'm guessing you had a gyno flair up, and not that it actually caused gyno?

Strange, but there's always a risk when playing with hormonals.
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I was just suprised, I got the hard lump which I never got before. I quit the product after that
 
you can still get Icon 11, Iron Legion also has VII-KT and Invictus...all solid options.

for non hormonal, I don't think anything is better than Invictus.
 
delsolrob said:
you can still get Icon 11, Iron Legion also has VII-KT and Invictus...all solid options.

for non hormonal, I don't think anything is better than Invictus.
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So I have Invictus and V11-KT. The Invictus actually says on it not for use by females. That usually let's me know I'm interested in it more lol. But I've always wondered if it's not hormonal why the warning about chicks taking it.

I'm on super 11 right now which is hormonal and TD. But when I'm done with my cycle I've been wondering if I should go to v11-kt solo, super 7 solo, Invictus solo, or some blending of them with a small dose of each. I do that with PCT meds, split between clomid and Nolva and I think it's better that way, like your attacking that problem from multiple angles.

Another thing is I'm running Peptides and using that noot NA-Semax which mimics ACTH so I'm hitting the cortisol pro like pretty hard, but when the cycle is over I can't use super 11 anymore but I can use any of this other.

What do you think would be best when I hit PCT and want to try for tighter cortisol control?
 
I can't believe no one has offered the most obvious solution: buy more Sup3r-11. It is still available. There's this awesome thing called Google that helped me find some in about 2 minutes.
 
mike33511 said:
I can't believe no one has offered the most obvious solution: buy more Sup3r-11. It is still available. There's this awesome thing called Google that helped me find some in about 2 minutes.
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I have a bottle or two if anyone is interested. Also have NI 11-KT spray.
 
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