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Donald Trump running for president

I dont care what the world thinks about us, I care about America and our people. As far as I know, the world thinks we are war mongering lunatics which is true.

There is no reason to be an isolationist....you talk, trade and compete with countries. You would be less isolationist that what we are today. We would trade with North Korea, not isolate them for example. Help modernize them, they will change. It worked with China, didnt it? That country was far worse that the DPRK at that time, 70-100 million dead.

Its 100% realistic to have a non-interventionist policy and have a heavy handed military at the same time for self defense purposes. The problem is the Military Industrial Complex, the politicians and the propaganda along with the public education system.

c'mon man, according to you we should never have been involved in ww2...what if china/n. korea/iran/Russia decide to form an alliance similar to the axis powers? let them take over Europe and asia and sit back and do nothing?
 
c'mon man, according to you we should never have been involved in ww2...what if china/n. korea/iran/Russia decide to form an alliance similar to the axis powers? let them take over Europe and asia and sit back and do nothing?

If they did that it would be the end of both europe and asia both, it wont happen.

To answer you question, no we do not get involved in the foreign affairs of other countries. America only goes to war when it is attacked. The only reason we went to WWII in the first place is because of Teddy's banker buddies and their false flag attack in Hawaii. Remember, the British and MI6 helped Hitler into power, and even the banks/politicians in USA were financing him even AFTER the USA declared were with Hitler. Hitler was to lose anyways without US involvement....and siding with Stalin? You can argue he was worse than Hitler. At the end of the day its all corruption, power and money from the Military Industrial Complex.
 
c'mon man, according to you we should never have been involved in ww2...what if china/n. korea/iran/Russia decide to form an alliance similar to the axis powers? let them take over Europe and asia and sit back and do nothing?

Really, based on recent history even just the past decade the USA government has no moral ethical integrity to come across as the good guys. We have killed and injured millions of innocent people, destroyed countries and even created, supported, trained and armed terrorist groups such as ISIS with no end in site.
 
If they did that it would be the end of both europe and asia both, it wont happen.

To answer you question, no we do not get involved in the foreign affairs of other countries. America only goes to war when it is attacked. The only reason we went to WWII in the first place is because of Teddy's banker buddies and their false flag attack in Hawaii. Remember, the British and MI6 helped Hitler into power, and even the banks/politicians in USA was financing him even AFTER the USA declared were with Hitler. Hitler was to lose anyways without US involvement....and siding with Stalin? You can argue he was worse than Hitler. At the end of the day its all corruption, power and money from the Military Industrial Complex.

lol...you can argue that Germany and japan would have eventually been defeated....even if you are right, WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN LEFT? you would have definitely had your isolation then, most of the world would be in ruin.

after the end of ww1 I wonder how many people thought that after seeing all of that death and destruction there would be another world war so soon?
 
lol...you can argue that Germany and japan would have eventually been defeated....even if you are right, WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN LEFT? you would have definitely had your isolation then, most of the world would be in ruin.

after the end of ww1 I wonder how many people thought that after seeing all of that death and destruction there would be another world war so soon?

You should check at "War is a Racket" by Major General Smedley Butler who at the time of his death was the most decorated Marine in US history and the highest ranked General of his time. He breaks it down real good.
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He has a been influence on me :)

So...I say,

TO HELL WITH WAR!


-Smedley Butler
 
lol...you can argue that Germany and japan would have eventually been defeated....even if you are right, WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN LEFT? you would have definitely had your isolation then, most of the world would be in ruin.

after the end of ww1 I wonder how many people thought that after seeing all of that death and destruction there would be another world war so soon?

"In the World War a mere handful garnered the profits of the conflict. At least 21,000 new millionaires and billionaires were made in the United States during the World War. That many admitted their huge blood gains in their income tax returns. How many other war millionaires falsified their tax returns no one knows."

How many of these war millionaires shouldered a rifle? How many of them dug a trench? How many of them knew what it meant to go hungry in a rat-infested dug-out? How many of them spent sleepless, frightened nights, ducking shells and shrapnel and machine gun bullets? How many of them parried a bayonet thrust of an enemy? How many of them were wounded or killed in battle?

Out of war nations acquire additional territory, if they are victorious. They just take it. This newly acquired territory promptly is exploited by the few -- the selfsame few who wrung dollars out of blood in the war. The general public shoulders the bill.


-Major General Smedley Butler
 
You should check at "War is a Racket" by Major General Smedley Butler who at the time of his death was the most decorated Marine in US history and the highest ranked General of his time. He breaks it down real good.
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He has a been influence on me :)

So...I say,

TO HELL WITH WAR!


-Smedley Butler

the world is like a schoolyard...you have to stand up to bullies, and sometimes kick their ass--usually standing up to them is good enough, but sometimes not....I do not wish to see our young warriors put in harms way, I have always thought that violence should be a last resort-but I have never hesitated to defend myself, my family and friends, and have on occasion reached out to help a stranger in need.

I have nothing but respect for our volunteer armed forces who put themselves at risk by joining the military and hope and pray that we never need to send them to war...but I also have respect for the person who see's someone In need of help and put's their life in danger to protect someone being attacked!!!
 
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Remember when Obama told Medvedev to tell Vlad to give him space till after the election? He needed to keep up his charade to help get re elected and then would come back around to playing ball with them.
 
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So both NYT and CNN write hit pieces about Flynn and in both pieces admit that there's no indication that the Trump campaign did anything wrong. Yet continue with the hit job. Not suprising.
 
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So both NYT and CNN write hit pieces about Flynn and in both pieces admit that there's no indication that the Trump campaign did anything wrong. Yet continue with the hit job. Not suprising.

I remember when Dump had that conferance with the PM of Canada, CiaNN's first reaction was that they are disappointment and shocked the press only asked relevant questions about only US/Canada and not some stupid shytstorm about Flynn or the KKK supporting him.

There is no ethical integrity with NYT and CiaNN and hopefully they will go bankrupt to death.
 
I remember when Dump had that conferance with the PM of Canada, CiaNN's first reaction was that they are disappointment and shocked the press only asked relevant questions about only US/Canada and not some stupid shytstorm about Flynn or the KKK supporting him.

There is no ethical integrity with NYT and CiaNN and hopefully they will go bankrupt to death.

I 'heard' that McCain and graham took money from soros, have you 'heard' anything about this?
 
I 'heard' that McCain and graham took money from soros, have you 'heard' anything about this?

Yes just another example of how both parties are funding by the same people. Soros is a WWII criminal and responsible for alot of death and chaos around being part of the Ukrainian government overthrow and also setting up mass migration of the middle east into europe to set it into chaos so world government can take over. All you have to do is read some of his hacked emails and some of what I talk about is right there.

Dump by the way is in a crisis, he has surrounded himself with enemies, and the intelligence community (not all) is out to get him. One former intelligence official said Dump will die in jail on twitter. Dont trust Spicer that press secretary, he is no good. Steve Bannon and maybe 1 or 2 other people are good for him but thats about it right now. He is making too many mistakes with his surroundings, I wish him the best even though I disagree with some of his policies.
 
Yes just another example of how both parties are funding by the same people. Soros is a WWII criminal and responsible for alot of death and chaos around being part of the Ukraining government overthrow and also setting up mass migration of the middle east into europe to set it into chaos so world government can take over. All you have to do is read some of his hacked emails and some of what I talk about is right there.

Dump by the way is in a crisis, he has surrounded himself with enemies, and the intelligence community (not all) is out to get him. Dont trust Spicer that press secretary, he is no good. Steve Bannon and maybe 1 or 2 other people are good for him but thats about it right now. He is making too many mistakes with his surroundings, I wish him the best even though I disagree with some of his policies.

I don't know if spicer is disloyal but I do think he is incompetent...compared to josh he looks like a imbecile.
 
I don't know if spicer is disloyal but I do think he is incompetent...compared to josh he looks like a imbecile.

He didnt support Dump to begin with...I hope Im wrong and he is supporting him now at least but anyways the Press Secretary is only supposed to be master of propaganda, best actor gets the job lol.
 
I just heard that puzder is out...good, of all of trumps picks he was my least favorite...

I just thought of a good move for trump...nominate jimmy Hoffa's son as labor secretary!!! I wonder if votes will reverse, lol.
 
He didnt support Dump to begin with...I hope Im wrong and he is supporting him now at least but anyways the Press Secretary is only supposed to be master of propaganda, best actor gets the job lol.

in that case I am sure he is loyal and just an imbecile!!!

trump needs sean Hannity as press secretary, if reporters get out of hand he could throw footballs at em, lol.
 
in that case I am sure he is loyal and just an imbecile!!!

trump needs sean Hannity as press secretary, if reporters get out of hand he could throw footballs at em, lol.

yeah, I don't think he is disloyal. I just don't think he is very good at that job, but it's a really difficult job.
 
Wikileaks reported “Trump’s National Security Advisor Michael Flynn resigns after destabilization campaign by US spies, Democrats, press,”

“Amazing battle for dominance is playing out between the elected US govt & the IC who consider themselves to be the permanent government,”

Dump is in trouble, he needs to rid the filth especially Priebus who to me is a total filthy mole. He needs a stronger more loyal inner circle, better sooner than later or else he will turn into a puppet just like Reagan after the Bush's tried assassinating him.
 
I just heard that puzder is out...good, of all of trumps picks he was my least favorite...

I just thought of a good move for trump...nominate jimmy Hoffa's son as labor secretary!!! I wonder if votes will reverse, lol.
Yes, I am SO glad he is out. Scumbag IMO.
 
those have been hilarious! I don't think Spicer is articulate enough for this job, but maybe he'll get better.

spicer is bad...but anyone who follows josh earnest is going to look bad, I hated josh for how well he covered Obama's tracks....but the guy was brilliant. josh earnest might be the best press secretary i've seen.
 
She could be said about Trump

spicer is bad...but anyone who follows josh earnest is going to look bad, I hated josh for how well he covered Obama's tracks....but the guy was brilliant. josh earnest might be the best press secretary i've seen.

I'm not totally thrown off by Trump's ability to articulate himself because it drove me nuts that people were willing to look past horrible crap that Obama did simply because he is a great speaker (love him or hate him, he is a great speaker). I'd prefer somebody that was good at the job and helped this country over somebody that gave great speeches...I just don't think Trump is that person. That said, what happened to the friggin teleprompters?! Why is Trump reading clumsily off note cards? Did Obama take the teleprompters with him lol?

Spicer on the other hand. That's his only job: to speak and he's horrid at it.
 
I'm not totally thrown off by Trump's ability to articulate himself because it drove me nuts that people were willing to look past horrible crap that Obama did simply because he is a great speaker (love him or hate him, he is a great speaker). I'd prefer somebody that was good at the job and helped this country over somebody that gave great speeches...I just don't think Trump is that person. That said, what happened to the friggin teleprompters?! Why is Trump reading clumsily off note cards? Did Obama take the teleprompters with him lol?

Spicer on the other hand. That's his only job: to speak and he's horrid at it.

agreed...Obama's greatest strength is in his ability to connect with people giving speeches---if only his actions were as good as his talk!!!

as someone who is pulling for trump to do well[he is the president], I thought his press conference yesterday went pretty well...it would appear that no one can speak for trump but trump.
 
agreed...Obama's greatest strength is in his ability to connect with people giving speeches---if only his actions were as good as his talk!!!

as someone who is pulling for trump to do well[he is the president], I thought his press conference yesterday went pretty well...it would appear that no one can speak for trump but trump.

I thought the press conference was awesome...fake news needs to be destroyed. I hate CiaNN. By law CiaNN IS fake news, Dump needs to show everyone the paper work on that.

I cant believe the first reaction from CiaNN from Jake Tapper was something like this and Ill paraphrase, "if your sitting at home, and your from the military or you are just a regular worker you are seeing a man who is unfocused on you and only focused on his image and how the press is covering him. He is more focused on watching what the news is saying about him than you......"

I mean seriously, the first reaction was straight up psychops....tell the people at home how to think, and what the world thinks the military sitting at home is thinking.

I cant wait to see more attacks on fake news, Im getting convinced by the day Dump is for real although that doesnt equate me to an "official" supporter, rather than so far on some things I like what I see.
 
I'm not totally thrown off by Trump's ability to articulate himself because it drove me nuts that people were willing to look past horrible crap that Obama did simply because he is a great reader (love him or hate him, he is a great reader).

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I disagree...Obama and bill Clinton were [are] great at giving speeches....I can see why they were elected--they talk some good bullshlt.

Hey he got me that first time, lol but I had no idea he was reading!!!!!!!

Anyways a big part of me liking Dump is that he is coming across as a nationalist and sticking to it....I still gotta see how this plays out but so far so good, America first and Globalism can go stick it, but thats the reason why he is in danger.
 
Hey he got me that first time, lol but I had no idea he was reading!!!!!!!

Anyways a big part of me liking Dump is that he is coming across as a nationalist and sticking to it....I still gotta see how this plays out but so far so good, America first and Globalism can go stick it, but thats the reason why he is in danger.

1st brexit, then trump now it looks like merkel is in trouble....globalism is on a losing streak!!!

I wonder just how far McCain and graham will go to interfere with trumps agenda?
 
1st brexit, then trump now it looks like merkel is in trouble....globalism is on a losing streak!!!

I wonder just how far McCain and graham will go to interfere with trumps agenda?

France has something big going on too....people are sick and tired of unelected bureaucrats calling the shots.
 
I disagree...Obama and bill Clinton were [are] great at giving speeches....I can see why they were elected--they talk some good bullshlt.

Do remember, Obama bought his teleprompters with him to talk to 5th grade students a while back inside their classroom.
 
France has something big going on too....people are sick and tired of unelected bureaucrats calling the shots.

I traveled to 47 different countries when in the navy..1 NATO CRUISE/2 MED CRUISES/1 WESTPAC CRUISE...I liked the idea of every country having it's own identity, globalism would destroy this.
 
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Lol! True, but it's not that easy. They all use speech writers, but Obama is an eloquent guy. People fall for that crap, though. Look at Trudeau right now. I'm not saying he's a good or bad leader, but I bet 90% of the people adoring him on social media couldn't tell you a single thing about his policies. They like him because he's attractive and has charisma.
 
Lol! True, but it's not that easy. They all use speech writers, but Obama is an eloquent guy. People fall for that crap, though. Look at Trudeau right now. I'm not saying he's a good or bad leader, but I bet 90% of the people adoring him on social media couldn't tell you a single thing about his policies. They like him because he's attractive and has charisma.

I watch old speeches time to time, seems like the dumber it gets over the years the more people are on the same page. Now this is the age of just saying, "hey fartknocker...your fake, quiet, shutup dumbass" its unbelievable. Really though talk is talk, all that truly matter is actual policy. I think Dump has realized along with his TV training how to reach out to the masses....keep it as simple as possible and throw in some back of the schoolbus rants and we have a winner.

Sometimes I wish Ron Paul talked like an idiot.
 
I'm not a Bill Maher fan, but I absolutely loved seeing Milo torn apart and shown to be the complete hack that he is [video=youtube;3cDLflyQ8TA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cDLflyQ8TA[/video]
 
I'm not a Bill Maher fan, but I absolutely loved seeing Milo torn apart and shown to be the complete hack that he is [video=youtube;3cDLflyQ8TA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cDLflyQ8TA[/video]

First time I heard Milo talk, he can do better if he is a bit more professional and mature.
 
First time I heard Milo talk, he can do better if he is a bit more professional and mature.

I think most times he's surrounded by his fan boys who think he's intelligent and agree with everything he says. I've never seen him actually be professional or mature, so I'm open if anybody has videos they want to share. He's basically just Ann Coulter and I don't get the appeal at all. His tactics simply don't work when he's forced to actually debate and people call him out on his crap which is state lies and false statistics as fact and then when you can't back it up, make an awkward gay joke or insult who you're speaking to.
 
I don't think that's possible for him. He's a one trick alt right pony.

This is all I've seen in his videos and articles. If anybody has an example where he is actually intelligent and has a point based in reality, please send it to me. I'm obviously missing something or people are really just that easily led by the loudest (not the smartest) person in the room.
 
I don't think that's possible for him. He's a one trick alt right pony.

There is nothing wrong with being alt right, they have far more values than that liberal hypocritical platform he is on especially that human filth of a human being Bill Maher is. Milo just seems to have personal issues in his head when it comes to needing attention and needs help.
 
I think most times he's surrounded by his fan boys who think he's intelligent and agree with everything he says. I've never seen him actually be professional or mature, so I'm open if anybody has videos they want to share. He's basically just Ann Coulter and I don't get the appeal at all. His tactics simply don't work when he's forced to actually debate and people call him out on his crap which is state lies and false statistics as fact and then when you can't back it up, make an awkward gay joke or insult who you're speaking to.

I tried, he is just trash.
 
There is nothing wrong with being alt right, they have far more values than that liberal hypocritical platform he is on especially that human filth of a human being Bill Maher is. Milo just seems to have personal issues in his head when it comes to needing attention and needs help.
You call me out for "hating white people", but it's OK for people to talk trash about non-white people? Gotcha.
 
You call me out for "hating white people", but it's OK for people to talk trash about non-white people? Gotcha.

I didnt call you out, you bought attention to yourself out with your rich history on this forum of attacking whites as well as Christians and consistently obsessing with race. Who said its ok to talk trash about non-white people? Racism isnt an excuse to bring the white race down as a whole and promoting white guilt as the liberals do.
 
There is nothing wrong with being alt right, they have far more values than that liberal hypocritical platform he is on especially that human filth of a human being Bill Maher is. Milo just seems to have personal issues in his head when it comes to needing attention and needs help.

Gotta disagree with that one. Alt-right was created by Richard Spencer who is little too much on the nazi side of things.
 
Gotta disagree with that one. Alt-right was created by Richard Spencer who is little too much on the nazi side of things.

I never looked far into this, but that dude doesnt sound like my cup of tea. Id be surprised if most of the alt right follows him but I gotta do some more homework on this one. allt-right, republicans, democrats, liberals, etc....all have people with a rich history of racism though.
 
I never looked far into this, but that dude doesnt sound like my cup of tea. Id be surprised if most of the alt right follows him but I gotta do some more homework on this one. allt-right, republicans, democrats, liberals, etc....all have people with a rich history of racism though.

Everybody does and even if they don't start out that way, groups tend to get used by people for their own purposes and then just get ruined for everybody. All these labels drive me nuts and are just doing more harm. I wish people would stop using the terms alt-right or Trump supporters when talking about racists and bigots. Call them what they are because not all Trump supporters are racists and bigots, but there is already a huge division that is going to increase if good people that voted for Trump for good reasons are continued to be called racists. Call a racist a racist and be done with it lol. The more I see what has happened in this country over the past decade, the less surprising it is that Trump won. I feel naive now thinking that it was ever going to turn out any other way.
 
Today is "Non-Presidents day" ROFL!!!!!

HUUGGGEEE PROPS to President Jimmy Carter! I just heard Carter ferociously defending Dump stating;

"An overwhelming portion intentionally demonstrated animosity toward President Dump is based on the fact that he is a overweight privileged business man addicted to social media, and I think it has bubbled up to the surface because of a belief of many libtards not just in the east and west coast, but around the country that overweight privileged business men addicted to social media are not qualified to lead this great country."

Hell Yeah Jimmy...I thought you were a racist when you only stuck up for Obama but now you won my heart over!

 
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