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Test cypionate drop off?

JBoneke

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I know everyone is different and numbers tell mostly everything.
Anyway, from your experiences, on what day is the drastic drop off? I've heard that the high is generally 2 days after injection. What happens on day 3? 4? 5?.
I know dosage also matters. So let's say 60-70 mgs/injection.
Btw, no AI or hcg, just 200mg test cypionate.
 
Going purely by the studies/pharmaco:

Rapid peak in the first 24hrs, then a steady decline to base levels over the next ten days.
 
going JUST by feel, I feel like it kicks in within hours and through the first few days. I always have morning wood the first few days after pinning
 
JBoneke said:
What's your trt dose?
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150mg/week of test cyp. I was doing 1 pin weekly and just this week decided to switch to 2 per week....so 75mg each pin.

I pinned 150mg on friday and blood draw the following friday (pre shot) had my levels at 1200
 
nosnmiveins said:
150mg/week of test cyp. I was doing 1 pin weekly and just this week decided to switch to 2 per week....so 75mg each pin.

I pinned 150mg on friday and blood draw the following friday (pre shot) had my levels at 1200
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Subq or IM
 
JBoneke said:
That really says nothing and I've heard day 2 is the max level.
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Wtf you on about? You need me to get the crayons out and draw you a picture? Peak level is 24hrs, return to base day ten. Plot an imaginary line descending between the two.

Or, instead of going by studies, go by what you "hear".
 
Nac said:
Wtf you on about? You need me to get the crayons out and draw you a picture? Peak level is 24hrs, return to base day ten. Plot an imaginary line descending between the two.

Or, instead of going by studies, go by what you "hear".
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Yeah, draw a picture. Day 3 is 752. What's day 5 at?
 
nosnmiveins said:
I have a strange feeling that he wants to know so he can alter his levels to get put on TRT or if already on, have he dosed increased....but thats just me...
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Nope. actually decreasing because my dr prescribed too much. Don't want an AI and all that crap that consumes your steroided lives.
 
JBoneke said:
Nope. actually decreasing because my dr prescribed too much. Don't want an AI and all that crap that consumes your steroided lives.
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Just because youre prescribed it doesnt mean you have to take it or even pick it up from the pharmacy. You also have the option to TELL your doctor you want a lower dose
 
nosnmiveins said:
Just because youre prescribed it doesnt mean you have to take it or even pick it up from the pharmacy. You also have the option to TELL your doctor you want a lower dose
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I know you guys have your "cool" little clique going but you guys know less than me.
Sorry for asking questions that your not qualified to answer. If you don't know, dont get involved.
 
JBoneke said:
I know you guys have your "cool" little clique going but you guys know less than me.
Sorry for asking questions that your not qualified to answer. If you don't know, dont get involved.
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If by clique you mean me, myself, talking from experience and personal knowledge then yes
 
No one here will be able to tell you what your levels will be at peak or at any point in-between you injections. You can take 10 of us and give us all 100mg of test cyp and we would likely all have a different number on each day. People metabolize differently.

You need to find out what your 24 hour peak is and what you are at on day of inject. Work the math from there or spend the money on labs if you need an actual hard number- which would only change the next time.
 
You guys are all wrong. It has been demonstrated in scientific studies that if your levels are at 752 on day 3, then on day 5, they are exactly tree fiddy.
 
mike33511 said:
You guys are all wrong. It has been demonstrated in scientific studies that if your levels are at 752 on day 3, then on day 5, they are exactly tree fiddy.
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On day 6 they were higher.
350 is your peak probably judging by those girly "guns"! Lol
 
Except that some of us gave you legitimate answers. Unfortunate that you came in asking a nonsense question and a few of us took the time to smarten you up but you didn't catch on.
 
kisaj said:
Except that some of us gave you legitimate answers. Unfortunate that you came in asking a nonsense question and a few of us took the time to smarten you up but you didn't catch on.
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I'm sorry. Not you. Thanks for your help and time.
 
JBoneke said:
That's why they do roids
Yeah, it's been a waste of time. Instead of sharing any "knowledge" , well i guess it's just been a waste of time . Know it alls who know nothing.
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You wanted to be spoonfed specific numbers.

Which, should be ascertained via bloodwork in consultation with your doctor, given your goals.

Which was pointed out. By dumby juiceheadz.
 
Alright. You got a point. Just wanted some idea. I know every one is different. My labs aren't for a while and I'm just trying to get dialed in by feeling mostly and numbers secondly. My dr pretty much left it up to me because obviously drs aren't always all that knowledgeable about this stuff.
I've been struggling for the last 3 months and just trying to get some help.
Sorry
 
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Comparative pharmacokinetics of 194mg of testosterone enanthate and 200mg of testosterone cypionate after intramuscular injection to 6 normal volunteers. Closed circles, mean ± SEM of testosterone enanthate kinetics; open circles, mean ± SEM of testosterone cypionate kinetics.

I actually owe you an apology. Peak level is day 1-2 (open circles).
 
Nac said:
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Comparative pharmacokinetics of 194mg of testosterone enanthate and 200mg of testosterone cypionate after intramuscular injection to 6 normal volunteers. Closed circles, mean ± SEM of testosterone enanthate kinetics; open circles, mean ± SEM of testosterone cypionate kinetics.

I actually owe you an apology. Peak level is day 1-2 (open circles).
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Lol. It's cool. I saw that graph today after you inspired me!!!
Ok, how does the actual amount injected relate to that? I mean what's the difference between 200mg to 100mg to say 60mg? I mean the amount has to figure in right?
I'm just on trt and I talked my dr into 80ml every 5 days from 60 ml every 5 days. As things turned out I felt better at 60 every 5. I'm sure it's Estrogen elevation.
Anyway I'm pretty close I hope. No estogen issues at 60 every 5 but issues at 80 every 5 days. That's a pretty big difference in hind sight.
So I'm thinking of 60 every 4 days or 70 days every 5 days. This is just trying to avoid estradiol issues cuz that kills everything.
60 every very 4 days seems better right?
 
JBoneke said:
I mean what's the difference between 200mg to 100mg to say 60mg?
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I would imagine the graph would have a similar shape, but the peak would be lower with a lower dose, and then obviously it would take less time to return to baseline.
 
JBoneke said:
Lol. It's cool. I saw that graph today after you inspired me!!!
Ok, how does the actual amount injected relate to that? I mean what's the difference between 200mg to 100mg to say 60mg? I mean the amount has to figure in right?
I'm just on trt and I talked my dr into 80ml every 5 days from 60 ml every 5 days. As things turned out I felt better at 60 every 5. I'm sure it's Estrogen elevation.
Anyway I'm pretty close I hope. No estogen issues at 60 every 5 but issues at 80 every 5 days. That's a pretty big difference in hind sight.
So I'm thinking of 60 every 4 days or 70 days every 5 days. This is just trying to avoid estradiol issues cuz that kills everything.
60 every very 4 days seems better right?
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If we're sticking with PK studies for numbers, 200mlg of cyp /week will easily have you supraphysiological, as the graph above shows. Especially after multi doses. The recommendation from the PK studies was 200mg every two weeks.

But infrequent shots will generally suck. I think alot of anecdotal feedback on trt forums suggests bi-weekly shots best with enanth and cyp esters. Personally, Id prefer pinning every X-days, than every Mon/Thurs. Obviously this will only work pragmatically if you dont care that your pins will fall on different days week to week.
 
My man, I can understand the frustration shared by you and those whom tried to help. You weren't clear, and then later clarified your request.

That said, if you want to take control of how you are coming along.
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You've gotten some solid advice from knowledgeable people here.
Welcome to AM.
Good luck!
 
Nac said:
If we're sticking with PK studies for numbers, 200mlg of cyp /week will easily have you supraphysiological, as the graph above shows. Especially after multi doses. The recommendation from the PK studies was 200mg every two weeks.

But infrequent shots will generally suck. I think alot of anecdotal feedback on trt forums suggests bi-weekly shots best with enanth and cyp esters. Personally, Id prefer pinning every X-days, than every Mon/Thurs. Obviously this will only work pragmatically if you dont care that your pins will fall on different days week to week.
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Thanks Nac. That all makes sense. Appreciate your time and knowledge.
 
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