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ax1 said:
Try making it through alone in each of the 7 countries on the ban list....start with Somalia, I bet you wont make it to country #2 assuming you dont have armed security and heavy duty armored transportation.
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So traveling to those 7 countries is forced upon Americans how?

You folks are grasping at straws this morning.
 
Misfit28 said:
Looks like it wasn't really "jumping the gun", huh? ;) Seems like the opposite happened. People were quick to blame Muslims for something that was the doings of a right wing extremist.

Still not blaming Trump, though. Just because he was a Trump fan, doesn't mean that caused this atrocity. More than likely he needed mental health treatment.
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Where did you hear that?
 
Misfit28 said:
So traveling to those 7 countries is forced upon Americans how?

You folks are grasping at straws this morning.
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No, but it does seem alot of people in this country is forcing loosy goosy travel for them coming here and if you have security concerns your labeled a racist.
 
Misfit28...an interesting read is 'center for immigration studies'..'muslim immigrants in the united states'...sorry I don't do links!!!

my take away is the agenda is for muslims to change America rather than adapting to American culture which is very much in conflict with muslim or more precise islamic values!!!

sex sells is not compatible with islam, but has been an advertising staple for many years as an example...also drinking and recreational drug use, plus the current wide use of profanity...not to mention womens rights which is in major conflict with muslim culture!!!
 
Misfit28 said:
Um, it's kinda been all over the news. Except it wasn't on Infowars, Fox or Breitbart, though ;)

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Thats just Canadian propaganda. Its public radio and loaded with filth like NPR here in the states.
 
Misfit28 said:
Um, it's kinda been all over the news. Except it wasn't on Infowars, Fox or Breitbart, though ;)

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Look at this crap "Simple truth is Canada's mass shooters are usually white and Canadian-born: Neil Macdonald"
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In a country that barely is run by minorities, odds are when something happen its going to be a "white canadian born."

They race bait, CBC is nothing but propaganda and liberal trash.
 
thebigt said:
Misfit28...an interesting read is 'center for immigration studies'..'muslim immigrants in the united states'...sorry I don't do links!!!

my take away is the agenda is for muslims to change America rather than adapting to American culture which is very much in conflict with muslim or more precise islamic values!!!

sex sells is not compatible with islam, but has been an advertising staple for many years as an example...also drinking and recreational drug use, plus the current wide use of profanity...not to mention womens rights which is in major conflict with muslim culture!!!
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So the takeaway is that capitalism is good for Americans to do, but not for Muslim immigrants? Seems like them integrating to me.

I'm sure no Christian has ever owned a liquor store or ran a business in opposition to Christian beliefs.
 
ax1 said:
Thats just Canadian propaganda. Its public radio and loaded with filth like NPR here in the states.
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NPR is the least biased new source I have ever heard or read. They generally present many perpectives on the same issue and let the listener/reader decide for themselves.

I'll find another source. Infowars is reliable, though? ROFL. At least it is reliable for comedy.

I mean what sources besides Infowars or other conspiracy sites will you actually believe?
 
Misfit28 said:
NPR is the least biased new source I have ever heard or read. They generally present many perpectives on the same issue and let the listener/reader decide for themselves.

I'll find another source. Infowars is reliable, though? ROFL. At least it is reliable for comedy.

I mean what sources besides Infowars or other conspiracy sites will you actually believe?
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Ive listened to NPR many times, it is 100% liberal garbage. Its run by ignorant people.
 
ax1 said:
Ive listened to NPR many times, it is 100% liberal garbage. Its run by ignorant people.
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So name a reliable source besides some right-wing or conspiracy site.

100% liberal garbage, huh? Prove it then with reliable sources. Pick a story and critique it with actual FACTS.
 
Misfit28 said:
So the takeaway is that capitalism is good for Americans to do, but not for Muslim immigrants? Seems like them integrating to me.

I'm sure no Christian has ever owned a liquor store or ran a business in opposition to Christian beliefs.
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lol...that is like saying no catholic has ever been on the side of supporting abortion-tim kaine...lol

there are always going to be rare exceptions....this applies to ALMOST everything......
 
Misfit28 said:
So name a reliable source besides some right-wing or conspiracy site.

100% liberal garbage, huh? Prove it then with reliable sources. Pick a story and critique it with actual FACTS.
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How did NPR do with the coverage of 9/11? They are a disgrace. Plus, the CIA are infiltrators of NPR to brainwash the public like most of your sources, this is by US law.
 
Misfit28 said:
So name a reliable source besides some right-wing or conspiracy site.

100% liberal garbage, huh? Prove it then with reliable sources. Pick a story and critique it with actual FACTS.
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Tons of liberal media sources know nothing about guns, call everything "assault rifles," etc.

I give you Exhibit A, courtesy of Time Magazine:
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I'll let you figure out what's wrong there. Also, a second mistake, although not as bad:
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thebigt said:
lol...that is like saying no catholic has ever been on the side of supporting abortion-tim kaine...lol

there are always going to be rare exceptions....this applies to ALMOST everything......
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Well, then prove your outlandish claim by a preponderance of evidence. The burden is on you to prove the point, not for me to have to disprove you.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Tons of liberal media sources know nothing about guns, call everything "assault rifles," etc.

I give you Exhibit A, courtesy of Time Magazine:
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I'll let you figure out what's wrong there. Also, a second mistake, although not as bad:
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So, not knowing the specs for weapons means that they are all incorrect about everything?

Besides that's Time, not NPR.
 
Misfit28 said:
So the takeaway is that capitalism is good for Americans to do, but not for Muslim immigrants? Seems like them integrating to me.

I'm sure no Christian has ever owned a liquor store or ran a business in opposition to Christian beliefs.
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Alot do and alot dont integrate into western systems. Im not a fan of general "muslim" stereotypes but there are cultural issues that can be present. A good place to look at are muslim ghettos in europe, and of course we have great examples around where integration totally works out great. I do think that dumping 10s of thousands of refugees from 3rd world war time countries presents many issues as we see all over europe now including sweden which I posted about the other da.
 
Misfit28 said:
So, not knowing the specs for weapons means that they are all incorrect about everything?

Besides that's Time, not NPR.
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Time is far more biased and infiltrated with government propaganda than even filthy NPR, Ill give you that.
 
ax1 said:
Alot do and alot dont integrate into western systems. Im not a fan of general "muslim" stereotypes but there are cultural issues that can be present. A good place to look at are muslim ghettos in europe, and of course we have great examples around where integration totally works out great. I do think that dumping 10s of thousands of refugees from 3rd world war time countries presents many issues as we see all over europe now including sweden which I posted about the other da.
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From the Russian propaganda mouthpiece otherwise known as RT. You may as well have posted articles from Sputnik.
 
Misfit28 said:
From the Russian propaganda mouthpiece otherwise known as RT. You may as well have posted articles from Sputnik.
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Of course its propaganda....they do report news they dont report here on mainstream TV, their job is REALLY easy. Lets go Larry King!
 
Bloody hell, I have work to do. This is insanity. This is how you think you win, as well. I get exasperated by the conspiracy crazy talk and just have to leave. I'm tired of wasting my time with unreasonable people who don't believe anything, no matter the source. Unless of course, THEY choose it from their site of choice.

Have a great day!
 
Misfit28 said:
Well, then prove your outlandish claim by a preponderance of evidence. The burden is on you to prove the point, not for me to have to disprove you.
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specifically which claim are you referring to...this seems to be a common diversionary tactic you are fond of using, lol....have you been watching Julie rodinsky?
 
Misfit28 said:
So, not knowing the specs for weapons means that they are all incorrect about everything?

Besides that's Time, not NPR.
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I wasn't talking specifically about NPR, and my point was just to show that fact checking isn't a priority for a lot of news sources, left or right leaning, and just getting the story first or the most stories is more important to them. In the first picture, there is no such thing as a 600 round magazine for any real gun; that's for an airsoft gun, which is like comparing a katana to a pool noodle. The mistaking an AK-47 for an AR-15 isn't as bad, but they both show a complete lack of fact checking and research in favor of sensationalism and finding whatever "facts" best suit their message. I'd pretty much always try to fact-check something from ANY news source before taking it as fact.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
I wasn't talking specifically about NPR, and my point was just to show that fact checking isn't a priority for a lot of news sources, left or right leaning, and just getting the story first or the most stories is more important to them. In the first picture, there is no such thing as a 600 round magazine for any real gun; that's for an airsoft gun, which is like comparing a katana to a pool noodle. The mistaking an AK-47 for an AR-15 isn't as bad, but they both show a complete lack of fact checking and research in favor of sensationalism and finding whatever "facts" best suit their message. I'd pretty much always try to fact-check something from ANY news source before taking it as fact.
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Right, and I can agree with that.

I'm just done with the lunacy from ax1. I just can't deal with it right now. Every source I post is some CIA conspiracy to prevent the real news, like he has some "inside info" from Alex Jones that is always 100% factually correct.
 
Misfit28 said:
Bloody hell, I have work to do. This is insanity. This is how you think you win, as well. I get exasperated by the conspiracy crazy talk and just have to leave. I'm tired of wasting my time with unreasonable people who don't believe anything, no matter the source. Unless of course, THEY choose it from their site of choice.

Have a great day!
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Yeah I gotta go....this foil on my ceiling is really thin and this damn snow storm poked a hole through it I gotta patch it up, running to the grocery store right now.
 
Misfit28 said:
Right, and I can agree with that.

I'm just done with the lunacy from ax1. I just can't deal with it right now. Every source I post is some CIA conspiracy to prevent the real news, like he has some "inside info" from Alex Jones that is always 100% factually correct.
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Because it is CIA conspiracy....that right there is not a conspiracy ITS THE LAW! You wanna a source? Read the freaking laws for a change. CIA has you under mind control.
 
thebigt said:
specifically which claim are you referring to...this seems to be a common diversionary tactic you are fond of using, lol....have you been watching Julie rodinsky?
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The one you have been arguing, that American (or other host countries) are basically forced into conforming to Muslim beliefs.

I'm not familiar with her.
 
Misfit28 said:
The one you have been arguing, that American (or other host countries) are basically forced into conforming to Muslim beliefs.

I'm not familiar with her.
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you need to re-read my post...my take from that study was that the Islamic agenda is conform America to Islamic beliefs. I cited several examples of where American morality[or lack there of] is in direct conflict with Islamic values....

for instance lets discuss woman's rights shall we?

what strikes me as ironic [more like moronic] is to see so many women in support of muslim immigration...lol, be careful what you wish for!!
 
thebigt said:
you need to re-read my post...my take from that study was that the Islamic agenda is conform America to Islamic beliefs. I cited several examples of where American morality[or lack there of] is in direct conflict with Islamic values....

for instance lets discuss woman's rights shall we?

what strikes me as ironic [more like moronic] is to see so many women in support of muslim immigration...lol, be careful what you wish for!!
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That website (CIS) is very right-leaning and anti-immigrant. Prepping for a research meeting, I'll talk more later :)
 
Misfit28 said:
That website (CIS) is very right-leaning and anti-immigrant. Prepping for a research meeting, I'll talk more later :)
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to be fair every website 'leans'.....just like the tower of pisa the leaning gets consistently worse as time goes on...later.
 
thebigt said:
to be fair every website 'leans'.....just like the tower of pisa the leaning gets consistently worse as time goes on...later.
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Yeah, it's funny though that everyone jumps my case for "left-leaning" sites, but ignore it when I mention that something is "right-leaning". Anyway ;)
 
Misfit28 said:
That website (CIS) is very right-leaning and anti-immigrant. Prepping for a research meeting, I'll talk more later :)
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Translation: If its not from unbiased sources such as msnbc, npr, snopes, factfuq.org, and other similar unbiased sites with well educated intellectual thinkers that seperate the facts from the fake news then Im just not going to agree with it.
 
thebigt said:
to be fair every website 'leans'.....just like the tower of pisa the leaning gets consistently worse as time goes on...later.
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Interestingly enough, I'm pretty sure my soil mechanics professor said that it's lost some of its tilt and is more stable since they've done some work on it. Of course, just like the media, they want to keep some lean in it, or it's not interesting anymore.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Interestingly enough, I'm pretty sure my soil mechanics professor said that it's lost some of its tilt and is more stable since they've done some work on it. Of course, just like the media, they want to keep some lean in it, or it's not interesting anymore.
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very interesting, I was lucky enough to see the tower in person when in the navy-it really is a wonder.

lol...I don't think you could pay the people of pisa enough to 'straighten' it....there really isn't much else there, but I am happy to hear it has at least stopped the increase in it's tilt...at the same time I think the media are just as happy to have a 'lean' as the people of pisa.
 
it is the calling of every devout muslim to convert as many non-believers to islam as possible....and sharia law is not compatible with the America that we know at this time...
 
thebigt said:
it is the calling of every devout muslim to convert as many non-believers to islam as possible....and sharia law is not compatible with the America that we know at this time...
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I've never had a Muslim try to convert me, but I've certainly had more than my fair share of Christians try to do so.

The second part of your post is irrelevant. I would fight against that as well, if it was actually happening.....
 
Misfit28 said:
I've never had a Muslim try to convert me, but I've certainly had more than my fair share of Christians try to do so.

The second part of your post is irrelevant. I would fight against that as well, if it was actually happening.....
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it would appear that muslim recruitment is doing very well among black males, in particular in the prison system .
 
Misfit28 said:
I've never had a Muslim try to convert me, but I've certainly had more than my fair share of Christians try to do so.

The second part of your post is irrelevant. I would fight against that as well, if it was actually happening.....
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As a part of the entry process maybe we can have a question that can be documented...."Do you value, respect and follow the US Constitution and its laws over Sharai law? I mean I know people can lie but it certainly should be part of the vetting process if it isnt already.
 
thebigt said:
it would appear that muslim recruitment is doing very well among black males, in particular in the prison system .
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Arent we all infidels and they think we all be their slaves one day? Thats what I heard I havent checked the Koran myself.
 
QUOTE=Misfit28;5651310]Possibly. Many prisoners "find Jesus" as well. Your point?[/QUOTE]

have you actually took the time to see what islam is about? jesus taught love and forgiveness, islam follows the old testament!!!
Christianity has modernized over the years, islam hasn't......look at the views on homosexuality and womens rights!!!

I will say it again, I find it very odd that women at a womens rights march would also be in support of letting in unlimited muslims-not to mention homosexuals!!! unintended consequences.
 
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