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Thoughts On Stacking 2 Methylated PH/DS

hamdysayed

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what you guys thinking about running epistane and the one (methyl dht oxime) or that's not a wise idea, I don't want to destroy my liver I was thinking of running 1 gram of tudca with kings guard for cycle support!
I mean ppl stack msten and dmz and both are potent and they still survive.... kinda scared but it just sound good .
 
General consensus is that it's not wise, out of health precaution. On the flip side, I've read a lot of people say it's over exaggerated and that it's not that big of a deal, especially when proper supports are taken. I don't have any personal experience with it however
 
have you ran either of these before? if so for how long
 
jathan_howe said:
General consensus is that it's not wise, out of health precaution. On the flip side, I've read a lot of people say it's over exaggerated and that it's not that big of a deal, especially when proper supports are taken. I don't have any personal experience with it however
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This. The liver is an amazing organ and can withstand a lot. Some people don't mind the two methyls and have good results and minimal liver elevation with proper support. I wouldn't because I have had really really high AST and ALT levels in the past. To me my it's just not worth it anymore. I'm at a different phase in life than I used to be with the kids now. Really just up to you. Are you doing labs with the cycle?
 
From what I've seen M1T Oxime isn't worth it. But with a gram of TUDCA and Kingsguard your liver should be fine
 
I've run everything from epi to superdrol to M1T and not once have I ever used support supps on cycle. Like stated above, the lover is an incredible organ. I DO NOT suggest following my lead, but a lot of things get overblown as far as severity.

I have bloods done 2-3 times per year, sometimes while on a harsh oral, yes liver values were raised but never ofucj concern and always returned to normal
 
nosnmiveins said:
I've run everything from epi to superdrol to M1T and not once have I ever used support supps on cycle. Like stated above, the lover is an incredible organ. I DO NOT suggest following my lead, but a lot of things get overblown as far as severity.

I have bloods done 2-3 times per year, sometimes while on a harsh oral, yes liver values were raised but never ofucj concern and always returned to normal
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where is the lover located?

lol
 
smith_69 said:
have you ran either of these before? if so for how long
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ran epistane for 5 weeks and never ran the one. Afi140 I wasn't planning but I probably would if necessary nosnmiveins yeah it's just alot of ppl stack msten dmz n they fine but noone just stack any methylated for some reason these are the main 2 I have seen so I was wondering what ppl think. Woody that's what I was thinking mani might be ok just intimidated
 
hamdysayed said:
ran epistane for 5 weeks and never ran the one. Afi140 I wasn't planning but I probably would if necessary nosnmiveins yeah it's just alot of ppl stack msten dmz n they fine but noone just stack any methylated for some reason these are the main 2 I have seen so I was wondering what ppl think. Woody that's what I was thinking mani might be ok just intimidated
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Just curious. Why are you stacking these particular two? What are your goals? Epi DMZ would likely be as equally harsh but better results
 
Woody said:
Just curious. Why are you stacking these particular two? What are your goals? Epi DMZ would likely be as equally harsh but better results
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i just want to get lean af and have quite few bottles of methyls and only run 2 cycles a year and it will take me forever to run everything I want lol
so td test/tren 2 month
epistane 5 weeks
methyl dht 6 weeks
 
With proper supports, plenty of water, and not overdoing the length of the cycle you'll probably be fine. I don't know about that particular combination but... yeah. It's alright.
 
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