Ok thanks guess will do the same 30 min before lifting.
Im not a biologist or a doctor, just like calcium have to be taken separately from zinc I wanted to be sure there was no interference...dont like to waste money and gainz
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What? BCAAs may not always be useful or worth the money, but I don't see how the majority of people would notice worse results by taking BCAAs pre, intra, or post workout, all other valuables constant.
What do you mean "becomes a crutch?" Do you mean they neglect proper peri-workout nutrition in favor of BCAAs? That wouldn't actually mean that the BCAAs are in any way detrimental or that you'd make better progress without them, only that proper nutrition is more important than BCAAs, but that should be a given. Your post confuses me.
You beat me to it as I was typing the following:
That's not what I was talking about, or what the OP was asking about, so it's completely superfluous to this discussion. No one here is suggesting talking about using BCAAs as a replacement for quality whole food and protein, only questioning if there is any benefit to be had from SUPPLEMENTING with BCAAs pre-workout, supplementing meaning as an addition to, not in place of, whole foods. Even if you don't think BCAAs taken peri-workout (ALL OTHER VARIABLES HELD CONSTANT, meaning diet is otherwise the same, so BCAAs are NOT REPLACING REAL FOOD) will provide any benefits, I fail to see how they could be detrimental to the vast majority of users, or how better progress would be made without them (if anything, progress should be either better, if they work, or the same, if they do not).
Yes, because I've never studied BCAAs at all. Thank the Supplement Gods that you are here to teach me the error of my ways and enlighten me.
Trainers pulling BCAAs a month out from shows is broscience though. What is even the reasoning behind that and what kind of sides are you referring to?
This is besides the point though. OP isn't asking if he should replace his meals with protein (which is an obvious no-no). He's asking if he can add BCAA to his preworkout. Regardless of whether or not that would benefit him, the answer to which requires more information about his diet (though I'd say yes based on the fact that he hasn't eaten for 4.5 hours by the time he begins working out, though obviously we know nothing about the rest of his periworkout nutrition), he's not replacing his meals with BCAAs.
How did you get that from this thread...? Of course not, you still want to keep protein high while cutting to help retain muscle. All NoAddedHmones meant was that there's little point in deliberately doing your cardio fasted when you're drinking something with caloric value to it. Cardio isn't something you do to build muscle; it's sole purpose is burning calories, and now you're drinking calories while you're doing it. BCAAs are approximately 6kcal/gram, it's not like they're calorie-free.
You need protein period. I'm not sure if you're talking about pre and/or intra workout protein consumption during a cutting phase and or fasting, but of course you need to eat protein when you're cutting sometime in the day.