Epistane break down

sespress

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So I understand that epistane breaks down spontaneously into phera plex. I've read that this compound is also unstable.

Does epistane break down the same way In the body?

How long after starting epistane should I notice an effect (so I know if it's not working).

If it's bunk I've thought about throwing in 1andro dermal or oral. Thoughts?

Thanks all!
 
From my understanding (I could be wrong here) true epistane doesn't actually break down. However it's clone (extremely similar) will break down.
 
Not really sure where that info came from, but Epistane is an active steroid. Your body doesnt convert it into something different.

Now if you're talking about those epi-andro products that are still being sold, then i could believe that they convert to something else in the body. Everything I've heard has said they're weak and a waste of time though.....so me thinks it definitely doesn't convert to pplex
 
Epistane as some other steroids is indeed unstable and can convert to Pheraplex. However this happens to a low degree if you don't heat the stuff to high temperatures.
In the body that conversion will also happen but to a very low degree. So other than for analytical reasons there is nothing to think about.

With Epistane it can well take some weeks to notice results but in week 3 you should at least notice something.
You could add 1-andro but keep in mind you would be stacking a methyl with a non-methyl thats still heavy to your liver.
 
ChocolateClen said:
From my understanding (I could be wrong here) true epistane doesn't actually break down. However it's clone (extremely similar) will break down.
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Clone? New info to me. What's the normal versus clone? Also I'm not speaking of Epi andro. My brand is from the original days of epistane so I'm hoping it's not a clone.
 
Either way it's a win win situation. As long as it's legit epistane in the first place. Expect 2-3 weeks for kickin
 
sespress said:
Clone? New info to me. What's the normal versus clone? Also I'm not speaking of Epi andro. My brand is from the original days of epistane so I'm hoping it's not a clone.
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Apparently with some of the "newer" kinds there's a chemical alteration that makes it more unstable but I don't know if anyone's really looked in to it that much. I've just read around a bit and came across it. Was hoping someone could correct me
 
Only thong I know is that the first products claimed they were the alpha-isomer. Some later claimed beta but most remained alpha. However I would not be sure the product is not a racemat anyway
 
epistane is a great product. there was a study done on this back in 2009 if im correct.
conclusion: there was a strong probability but there was no conclusive proof of epi degrading into phera.
 
Bunshichi said:
Only thong I know is that the first products claimed they were the alpha-isomer. Some later claimed beta but most remained alpha. However I would not be sure the product is not a racemat anyway
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Yeah I think the alpha doesn't degrade (if it does it's very slow) and the beta degrades a lot faster. But I could be wrong, I didn't look too much in to it and I wish I did
 
ChocolateClen said:
Yeah I think the alpha doesn't degrade (if it does it's very slow) and the beta degrades a lot faster. But I could be wrong, I didn't look too much in to it and I wish I did
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let me see if i have link. again not sure if i can post links yet. i could copy and paste if that is allowed.

i have a few bottles of original epistane put away. its been a good lil bit now that I think of it.
 
macedog24 said:
let me see if i have link. again not sure if i can post links yet. i could copy and paste if that is allowed.

i have a few bottles of original epistane put away. its been a good lil bit now that I think of it.
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Try it. Just dop out the TDL and write it like iknowdtuff dot com.
 
sespress said:
Try it. Just dop out the TDL and write it like iknowdtuff dot com.
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im looking but this ia all im getting at the moment.
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macedog24 said:
im looking but this ia all im getting at the moment.
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Very interesting! Thank you for the read. Sounds like it should not but could break down into phera in tht body. But the article admits this is unlikely and can only show examples in rat livers.
 
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