Best prohormone

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I am 4 weeks into my msten cycle and am very happy with the results so far. Im just wondering which prohormone would be the next step up in terms of results/side effects. Based on the research ive done it seems like my next choices would be dmz and then trenavar/superdrol. I am aware of the sides of trenavar/superdrol and if those are my only two options i think id just rather wait until im older and just do a test cyp cycle. Being on cycle should be fun and not filled with a whole bunch of sides. Any comments would be much appreciated.
 
For a cut Tren and Epistane, for a bulk Trest and Superdrol would be awesome. I would do Tren at 90mg-120mg though.
 
when stacked that dosage is enough, plus sides you do not want are greater at higher dose.
 
I've never ran 4 andro so I'm not sure, trest won't need a test base because it is one. It's the next best thing besides actual test.

The half life is very short though, it is potent for sure, but if not taken evenly throughout the day lethargy is still possible, superdrol or trenavar, and 4 andro are on my mind rn
 
The half life is very short though, it is potent for sure, but if not taken evenly throughout the day lethargy is still possible, superdrol or trenavar, and 4 andro are on my mind rn

Transdermal trest will take care of the half life problem! I'm not sure on where to get it still. I have an idea but you may have to make your own! Lol
 
Transdermal trest will take care of the half life problem! I'm not sure on where to get it still. I have an idea but you may have to make your own! Lol

I might just stack trest and 4 andro and see what happens. Use 4 andro at 220-330mg daily and trest from 75-100mg
 
4-andro on top of trest sounds like a waste of money. You won't get anything additional from the 4-andro that the trest isn't already doing.

1-Andro is probably a better option.
 
4-andro on top of trest sounds like a waste of money. You won't get anything additional from the 4-andro that the trest isn't already doing.

1-Andro is probably a better option.

I was thinking of using 4 andro as the base while running trest as the "gainer" at higher dosages. Can trest be ran as a standalone?
 
I was thinking of using 4 andro as the base while running trest as the "gainer" at higher dosages. Can trest be ran as a standalone?

Trest can be run solo no problem but it does make an excellent stacker with dry compounds because it is an excellent test base substitute and it is not 17aa methylated, so doesn't increase liver toxicity. I would not recommend stacking it with 4 andro because both compounds are wet and aromatization likely become a problem. Sten/Trest would be and awesome combo as would DMZ/Trest.
 
M1T is methyl 1 testosterone is an illegal drug, controlled substance designer steroid. Not a pro hormone.
 
I would not mess around with M1T. I hear a lot of very scary things about it. Crazy liver toxicity is one of them.
Not worth it.
 
For a cut Tren and Epistane, for a bulk Trest and Superdrol would be awesome. I would do Tren at 90mg-120mg though.
Have you ever experienced cramps or pain as if you have been kicked in the sack while stacking these? I was taking 30mg epi and 45mg trena-v and started having these pains. i ran a Havoc cycle about a year ago and had no issues. Wondering if its coincidence and i just have something else going on or if it is a common side with these....
 
Have you ever experienced cramps or pain as if you have been kicked in the sack while stacking these? I was taking 30mg epi and 45mg trena-v and started having these pains. i ran a Havoc cycle about a year ago and had no issues. Wondering if its coincidence and i just have something else going on or if it is a common side with these....

I have always gotten a dull ball ache on cycle and in PCT. not all the time but for a few days off and on.
 
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